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Who do you feel is the best SMW hacker and why?

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carol.

Well if i had to choose otherwise, then PYUA or EXTRA

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Read the OP, it does say no Carol, so you definitely have to say otherwise. (Also, any reasoning as to why, interested you know)
Sonikku for being a borderline jack of all trades (at least in terms of graphics and ASM).
And for having good taste in Puyo characters.

Honorable mentions: leod, Medic, Lui37, Vitor Vilela, Disco the Bat, pretty much most ASMers

I look up to pretty much all of the ASMers anyway lol, even the ones I like messing with (Alcaro)

Originally posted by Skewer
Read the OP, it does say no Carol, so you definitely have to say otherwise. (Also, any reasoning as to why, interested you know)

Is it bad that I find it kinda funny how you just posted here to reinforce the "NO CAROL" rule

carol's pretty overrated by a lot of the newbie members, but I still respect him for what he's done though.
He needs to work on his game designing skills though, his bosses and levels leave a lot to be desired outside of the pizazz/flashiness aspect.

Wish he'd reply to his emails more often though, he's a real sweetheart.
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Originally posted by Leomon
Is it bad that I find it kinda funny how you just posted here to reinforce the "NO CAROL" rule.


Nah, nothing wrong with it at all, but if it helps I did ask for some reasoning behind his choices. #tb{:p} I have respect for Carol as well, in fact I have a lot of respect for him.
I only said "No CAROL" because I didn't want every reply to be the same.
Why must you people get into arguments about everything, by the way? Gamma V is cool. Gamma V is not cool. It's all a bunch of opinions.
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Originally posted by Kaito
I only said "No CAROL" because I didn't want every reply to be the same.

Kinda defeats the purpose of the thread.
Might as well title it "Who do you feel is the best SMW hacker and why, but no carol".

Plus, it's kind of an unnecessary rule, most of the people who answer carol are usually the newbies who just discovered SMW hacking, thus Brutal is still fresh on their mind. Also the "hack weebs" who are obsessed with Japanese hacks for no reason other than that they're hard to find (and also they're Japanese).

Most of the longtime members aren't impressed by Brutal's ASM anymore.

Keeping in mind the huge amount of attention and popularity carol has drawn to himself, as well as the amount of users trying to make "Brutal Mario killers" (lookin at'cha, Roberto) and constantly pestering ASMers (including carol) to make them resources and absurdly complex bosses for their "Brutal Mario killers" kind of soured Brutal's reputation amongst the userbase, either from being tired of hearing about Brutal being "the hack to end all hacks" or from BM stans making fools of themselves towards carol and other ASMers.

The production time (started around 2005-2006, going on 10 years now) extending further and further, making a finished version's release seem less and less likely, kind of caused longtime members formerly interested in Brutal to lose interest in the hack altogether as well.

Oh yeah, and there's the whole accuracy dilemma where some people are gonna shit on the hack for being inaccurate and only working correctly on older versions of SNES9x, ZSNES, SNESGT et al.

I agree with accuracy being important (I'm an "in-training ASMer", after all), but Izuna raised the issue about severeness regarding hack accuracy being part of the reason Japanese hackers and generally less hardcore hackers aren't attracted to SMWC the other day on #hyperpower's Discord and I kinda agree with her points.

Also where the hell is your layout BG from, getting mad Kolibri or SvC Chaos vibes from it (it's not Green Forest -Forest of green- from SvC Chaos tho)

EDIT: Oh yeah I forgot to bring up the fact that Brutal also suffers a lot from flat level design, rather dull bosses, clashing graphics (delete all DKC1-3 ExGFX from existence pls), and the flashy ASM isn't gonna make most people overlook that lol
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Hard to say. I haven't had the chance to play many recent hacks so I can't accurately form an opinion as to who is currently the best SMW hacker. If you asked me 6-8 years ago, I probably would've said S.N.N. I feel he always created the most compelling content, mostly in puzzle-oriented level design, particularly in Keytastrophe. Other smaller hacks like Final Destination and Gimmick were pretty intriguing as well.
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