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| Posted on 2007-09-23 12:53:40 AM |
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This is just theory, I haven't actually put it into action.
The use of the SFX in that HDMA topic made me think about offloading some routines from the S-CPU to an SA-1. The nauseating slowdown when too many sprites are on screen might be done away with if the sprite routines were to run on the SA-1 end and the results were sent back to the SNES RAM on completion.
I chose the SA-1 because the code can be mostly reused with almost identical CPU's (some extra code ofcourse has to bring it all together). And unlike the SuperFX which hoards the ROM for itself, the SA-1 can access RAM/ROM together with the S-CPU. The former running at 5.37Mhz and the latter at SloROM speed. It pales to 21Mhz but it makes the implementation so much smoother.
The initial thought I have of this working out is to:
-Start of frame, S-CPU IRQ's SA-1 and signals a new frame. S-CPU DMA's sprite data to 'BW-RAM', sources would be 7E:14C8 and such. Might just do a big block copy (7E:0000-7E:1FFF) to include controller data and what-not. S-RAM is a big issue since the data for say, OAM ($0300) shares ranges with it. Might just scrap the 'integrity check'(?) and just load/store backup data elsewhere.
E: Forgot...Can just set the DB reg to 71f / 41h and forget about backup data altogether.
Probably wouldn't be too hard, I've stepped through most of it. Seems that the other data can be accessed with the data bank being set to BW-RAM (for 16bit addresses). 24bit addresses and SNES reg writes would cause some problems...At any rate, routines would most likely have to be written with the coprocessor in mind.
-For each run of a sprite routine, S-CPU writes PC location of sprite routine to somewhere in I-RAM and IRQ's SA-1 for action. S-CPU just returns and moves onto the next, while SA-1 works on sprite routine.
-Upon completion of the routine, SA-1 writes a certain part of I-RAM checked by the SNES when it finishes processing for the frame.
-SNES DMA's the BW-RAM initially used in the sprite routines back to the SNES and the S-CPU allows NMI to progress / move onto the next frame.
Any thoughts? I've 'equipped' a copy of SMW with an SA-1 and the memory map doesn't conflict with the original one of SMW. LM doesn't seem to mind either. S-RAM and all works fine (just that it also appears at bank 40+). So, I'd like to ask:
-how feasible do you think this is?
-is there anything else taxing on the SNES that could also be offloaded?
-does LM significantly change the sprite routine system?
I'm just thinking out loud here, so I'm not sure if there's a horrible flaw in this plan.
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| Last edited on 2007-09-23 01:14:04 AM by smkdan. |
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 01:35:05 AM |
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From what I heard, most of the slowdown seen in hack are due to blocktool's ASM code, wich take more cycle to execute each time a custom block is inserted. Here a partial disassembly of the code used:
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;blktool ASM disassembly;
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org $86F690
$86/F690: JSL Below ;entry point for below offset
org $90BB2E
Below:
$10/BB2E: REP #$20
$10/BB30: LDA #$BB97
$10/BB33: STA $7EBD00
$10/BB37: LDA #$BBA3
$10/BB3A: STA $7EBD02
$10/BB3E: LDA #$0006
$10/BB41: STA $7EBD04
$10/BB45: LDA #$BBAF
$10/BB48: STA $7EBD06
$10/BB4C: JSR Main
org $90BFEA
Main:
$10/BFEA: PHX
$10/BFEB: PHY
$10/BFEC: PHB
$10/BFED: PHK
$10/BFEE: PLB
$10/BFEF: REP #$30
$10/BFF1: LDA $7EBD06
$10/BFF5: STA $05
$10/BFF7: LDA $7EBD04 ;\
$10/BFFB: AND #$00FF ; |load the number of blocks and store it into X
$10/BFFE: TAX ;/
$10/BFFF: LDA #$0000 ;\
$10/C002: TAY ;/reset Y to $0000
$10/C003: LDA $7EBD00
$10/C007: STA $00
loop:
$10/C009: LDA ($05),y
$10/C00B: BEQ label2
$10/C00D: LDA ($00),y
$10/C00F: CMP $03
$10/C011: BEQ toblockcode
$10/C013: BRA label1
label2:
$90/C015: INY
$90/C016: SEP #$20
$90/C018: LDA ($00),y
$90/C01A: DEY
$90/C01B: CMP $04
$90/C01D: REP #$20
$90/C01F: BEQ toblockcode
label1:
$10/C021: INY
$10/C022: INY
$10/C023: DEX
$10/C024: BNE loop
$10/C026: SEP #$30 ;\
$10/C028: PLB ; |
$10/C029: PLY ; |if no match found, exit
$10/C02A: PLX ; |
$10/C02B: RTS ;/
toblockcode:
$10/C02C: REP #$20
$10/C02E: NOP ;\
$10/C02F: NOP ; |w00t at useless NOPs
$10/C030: NOP ;/
$10/C031: LDA $7EBD02 ;\
$10/C035: STA $00 ; |load the pointer to the block code
$10/C037: LDA ($00),y ; |
$10/C039: STA $00 ;/
$10/C03B: SEP #$30
$10/C03D: PLB
$10/C03E: PLY
$10/C03F: PLX
$10/C040: LDA #$00
$10/C042: STA $7EBD06
$10/C046: JMP ($0000) ;jump to custom block code
The Main part is executed 8 time(one for each blocktool offset), I already "fixed" it by converting the main part to SuperFX ASM
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SNES Part:
org $10BFF1
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;Blktool optimisation code;
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blktoolfix:
LDA $7EBD06 ;\
sta $7F16 ; |
lda $7EBD04 ; |
and #$00FF ; |
sta $7F14 ; |
lda $7EBD00 ; |
sta $7F10 ; |
lda $7EBD02 ; |
sta $7F12 ; |
lda $03 ; |store Various RAM adress used by the ASM to SRAM so SuperFX can acess them
sta $7F1C ; |
sep #$30 ; |
phb ; |
pla ; |
sta $7F0F ;/
lda #$03 ;\
sta $7FFF ;/ set function 3(blktool optimiser) to get exected by SuperFX
Finishcode: JSL !SuperFXinit ;start SuperFX
lda $7FFF
beq Finishcode
lda $7F18 ;\if no custom block found...
BNE toblockcode ;/ return
PLB
PLY
PLX
RTS
toblockcode:
PLB
PLY
PLX
LDA #$00 ;\
STA $7EBD06 ;/ not sure what is the point of this, but the original blktool ASM to do this
jmp ($7F1A) ;jump to the custom block code
SuperFXPart:
superblktool:
lm r2, (#1F10) ;
lm r3, (#1F12) ;
lm r12, (#1F14) ; load the data previously stored by the SNES CPU
lm r4, (#1F16) ;
ibt r5, #00
lm r0, (#1f0f)
lm r6, (#1f1C)
romb
cache
move r13,r15
move r14, r4
with r14
add r5
getb
inc r14
getbh
add r0
BEQ label2
nop
move r14,r2
with r14
add r5
getb
inc r14
getbh
cmp r6
Beq blockfound
nop
BRA label1
nop
label2:
move r14,r2
with r14
add r5
inc r14
with r1
getb
from r6
hib
cmp r1
BEq blockfound
nop
label1:
inc r5
loop
inc r5
IBT R0, #00
SM (#1f18), r0
stop
nop
jmp r10 ;Wannabe rts P
nop
blockfound:
IbT R0, #01
SM (#1f18), r0
move r14, r3
with r14
add r5
getb
inc r14
getbh
sm (#1f1A), r0
ibt r0, #00
sm (#1FFF), r0
stop
nop
jmp r10 ;Wannabe rts P
nop
the problem is that blktool ASM's location is dynamic, wich mean I can't make a patch to change it since the location is not the smae for all hacks :S
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| Last edited on 2007-09-23 01:38:58 AM by Bio. |
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 01:37:53 AM |
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SA-1 is the one used in Megaman X2 and X3 right?
also: wouldn't it be easer for blocks to use a table or something? ^_^;
I was thinking maybe it's time to make a new blocktool system... Actualy I sorta want to make something that can insert ASM, Blocks, AND sprites. XD But I probobly won't. At least untill I get to the point where i need it.
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| Last edited on 2007-09-23 01:42:57 AM by KilloZapit. |
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 01:39:55 AM |
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Originally posted by KilloZapitSA-1 is the one used in Megaman X2 and X3 right?
no, it's the one used in Kirby Superstar, Kirby dreamland 3 and SMRPG. X2 and X3 used Cx4
Originally posted by KilloZapitalso: wouldn't it be easer for blocks to use a table or something? ^_^;
from what I heard BTO(if it ever get released) will use a pointer table insted, wich will fix the slowdown issue
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| Last edited on 2007-09-23 01:41:16 AM by Bio. |
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 01:48:31 AM |
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Crud. Those are the three games that run slow as heck on my PSP emulator which I play most of my stuff on. :/ Oh well.
Also: Ya think a xkas preprocesser that searched for free space in a rom would be nice? XD And maybe let you insert sprites/blocks too. I donno.
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| Last edited on 2007-09-23 01:51:42 AM by KilloZapit. |
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 03:35:32 AM |
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Totally forgot about custom blocks. I was thinking all the focus was on the sprites. Compounding blocktool's inefficient implementation with sprites (and moreso with buoyancy) makes for some ugly slowdown.
While there are several things that would have to be worked around, I just realised the most prohibitive one would be like the following bank change:
PHB
PHK
PLB
Or anything that changes the bank really. Since the SA-1 only has 2kb of I-RAM equivalent to SNES's 8kb at the beginning of each ROM bank, it'd be too much of a hassle to work with that. Just about every sprite memory access is done with 16bit addressing targetting that area of RAM. If it had 8kb aswell, it would be more workable. Apart from blocks and sprites I can't think of anything else that could be of significant help if offloaded to a coprocessor. Oh well.
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 06:54:56 PM |
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Originally posted by KilloZapitI was thinking maybe it's time to make a new blocktool system...
Well there is the Japanese one, blite, but it seems to just be a makeover'd Block Tool.
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 06:57:28 PM |
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Yep. I wish Sukasa would hurry up with Block Tool Omega. D:
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| Posted on 2007-09-23 07:42:43 PM |
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Originally posted by KilloZapitCrud. Those are the three games that run slow as heck on my PSP emulator which I play most of my stuff on. :/ Oh well.
Also: Ya think a xkas preprocesser that searched for free space in a rom would be nice? XD And maybe let you insert sprites/blocks too. I donno.
same here, especially Yoshi's island..Maybe we should just rebuild the Snesx9 emu for the psp. I was thinking using Zsnes v1.42(i think). It is one of the really good emus to me.
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