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| Posted on 2011-08-28 03:04:17 PM |
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NOTE: This thread can be discussed about ANYTHING related to Election 2012.
ARE YOU SEEING THIS!
Look at those republicans; they are nothing but a bunch of clowns! Here are the people running:
Crazy Lady (Michelle Bocman)
Mother Bear (Sara Palin) [DENIED!]
Redneck Car Bomber of El Paso (Rick Perry)
Governor Good-hair (Bill Richardson)
Pokémon 2: The Movie (Herman Cain)
Donald Trump [Eligible]
[Reply me if I made a mistake on the list.] I like to see Donald Trump as president, then get fired in the next four years; but my favorite candidate is Michelle Bocman. She is better than Sara Palin, in a dumb way. Bocman went on her bus to Iowa and started off her speech by celebrating Elvis Presley’s birthday on his anniversary of his death. She needs to go to the Department of Research Center, otherwise known as DORC.
*IMPORTANT UPDATE*
Updates will be posted at the end of the thread whenever.
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| Last edited on 2012-01-21 11:43:19 PM by Mastertech2020. |
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| Posted on 2011-08-29 11:01:33 PM |
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Originally posted by Mastertech2020
Governor Good-hair (Bill Richardson)
Uh... Bill Richardson is a Democrat and the former governor of New Mexico. Unless he has plans to primary Obama for the Democratic nomination (which I've seen no indication of) he's not running in 2012.
Also, Donald Trump announced that he wasn't going to run a couple months ago, which wasn't surprising considering his fake campaign was a ratings ploy the whole time (look to NBC refusing to announce the Celebrity Apprentice wouldn't continue for another season).
As for the others, eh. Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry's statements on issues (Perry's on social security and other programs, Bachmann's on the debt ceiling and U.S. history) makes me surprised they're even considered credible candidates. I've read a couple articles contrasting Perry and George W. Bush and it's surprising how the latter is a lot more laid back and seems to care about people more.
A lot of them like Rick Santorum, Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, and Thaddeus McCotter have been getting very low numbers and don't really have much of a chance of staying in the race. As for Romney, I'd say he's okay, but I really don't know who he is given how much he's changed his position on nearly every issue, like abortion, whether Obama made the economy worse, etc. It's one thing to evolve your position and explain why you had a change, but just changing them often because it's what people want to hear to me sends a bad signal for a possible president.
I do think Jon Huntsman is a really decent guy though, and have contemplated voting for him if he was up against Obama. I wouldn't, mainly out of concern of who his VP would be and the cabinet he'd surround himself with, which would probably be more to the right, as well as his refusal to deal with tax increases like the other Republican candidates, but I appreciate his respectful and decent nature. It's a shame being a moderate Republican is political suicide in this environment.
Either way, Obama's frustrating and far from perfect, but he's the best we've got on the Democratic side. Having him be primaried as some on the left suggest would only fracture the party more and do damage akin to Jimmy Carter vs. Ted Kennedy in 1980. Given how things are going now, my guess would be that Obama will narrowly win reelection against Perry, mainly since many think he's nuts, or would very narrowly pull ahead of Romney. It's too early to tell, but we'll see.
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| Posted on 2011-09-01 05:00:33 PM |
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Ron Paul all the way!
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| Posted on 2011-09-01 05:53:21 PM |
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As long as Obama doesn't have a second term, I am fine with anyone winning.
I am independent. Republican goals contradict each other, as do Democratic goals, so that's why I am independent and don't care what party they are.
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| Posted on 2011-09-02 08:55:57 AM |
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I'm going to be surprised if Obama wins in 2012. I know a lot of people who voted for him in 2008 are really not satisfied with his performance. Ron Paul is my personal favorite candidate, but I'm surprised to see how much support Rick Perry has. I really don't know much about him, it seems like he came out of nowhere.
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| Posted on 2011-09-02 06:34:57 PM |
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Originally posted by ChanagaburuAs long as Obama doesn't have a second term, I am fine with anyone winning.
^This
Honestly, Obama hasn't helped, He's only made things worse. Hopefully, He has good intention at heart, but His methods aren't working.
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| Posted on 2011-09-02 09:16:10 PM |
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I don't care who get elected, but first read what they will change!
If they can keep their word on something for the struggling population towards the economy in this horrid country!
Or rights and education decisions, especially citizen rights towards immigrants
Im getting tired of hearing all this crap that Obama promised some care plan for the economy and epically failed
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| Posted on 2011-09-03 09:17:59 PM |
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Originally posted by SupertailsUh... Bill Richardson is a Democrat and the former governor of New Mexico. Unless he has plans to primary Obama for the Democratic nomination (which I've seen no indication of) he's not running in 2012.
Well, this makes him a "follower" of Obama. INTIMIDATION!
Originally posted by SupertailsAlso, Donald Trump announced that he wasn't going to run a couple months ago, which wasn't surprising considering his fake campaign was a ratings ploy the whole time (look to NBC refusing to announce the Celebrity Apprentice wouldn't continue for another season).
Eh, I kinda knew Donald Trump wasn't going to run, but thanks for letting me know! He wouldn't continue Celebrity Apprentice because NBC has never been crapier! At least he's not with ABC, where it's allways been crapy! JK, just my sarcasm.
Originally posted by SupertailsAs for the others, eh. Michele Bachmann and Rick Perry's statements on issues (Perry's on social security and other programs, Bachmann's on the debt ceiling and U.S. history) makes me surprised they're even considered credible candidates. I've read a couple articles contrasting Perry and George W. Bush and it's surprising how the latter is a lot more laid back and seems to care about people more.
Hm, who to pick; the crazy lady or the redneck?
This is what Rick Perry thinks about Bush:
Hm, Bush was redneck, but he ain't redneck enough. Maybe I ought-a turn it up a bit.
Originally posted by SupertailsA lot of them like Rick Santorum, Herman Cain, Ron Paul, Newt Gingrich, and Thaddeus McCotter have been getting very low numbers and don't really have much of a chance of staying in the race. As for Romney, I'd say he's okay, but I really don't know who he is given how much he's changed his position on nearly every issue, like abortion, whether Obama made the economy worse, etc. It's one thing to evolve your position and explain why you had a change, but just changing them often because it's what people want to hear to me sends a bad signal for a possible president.
Low numbers huh? Maybe Herman Cain should think about moving to Japan and help franchise Pokémon, and I doubt the Electoral Collage will vote for these fools. Seriously, when people are blaming everything on Obama, he can stop that in three simple words: President Joe Biden. That's how he's going to stop them.
Originally posted by SupertailsI do think Jon Huntsman is a really decent guy though, and have contemplated voting for him if he was up against Obama. I wouldn't, mainly out of concern of who his VP would be and the cabinet he'd surround himself with, which would probably be more to the right, as well as his refusal to deal with tax increases like the other Republican candidates, but I appreciate his respectful and decent nature. It's a shame being a moderate Republican is political suicide in this environment.
Well, Democrats, on the other hand, are like dogs. They like being told what to do, and being their aid; at least that's what I heard.
Originally posted by SupertailsEither way, Obama's frustrating and far from perfect, but he's the best we've got on the Democratic side. Having him be primaried as some on the left suggest would only fracture the party more and do damage akin to Jimmy Carter vs. Ted Kennedy in 1980. Given how things are going now, my guess would be that Obama will narrowly win reelection against Perry, mainly since many think he's nuts, or would very narrowly pull ahead of Romney. It's too early to tell, but we'll see.
Sure it's too early to tell, but Obama got front seats for this show; he smoking is cigar saying to his wife No, Michelle; don’t start packing up! We’ve got four more years.
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Originally posted by K3fkaRon Paul all the way!
We'll just see... KKK? What the hell is going on! [I'm just kidding, sarcasm]
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Originally posted by ChanagaburuAs long as Obama doesn't have a second term, I am fine with anyone winning.
What??? It's not his fault, he was just following orders from Congress.
Originally posted by ChanagaburuI am independent. Republican goals contradict each other, as do Democratic goals, so that's why I am independent and don't care what party they are.
So you shouldn't care if Obama gets the second term... SCHOOLED!
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Originally posted by JorshamoI'm going to be surprised if Obama wins in 2012.
You shouldn't, it's obvious he's the best we got... so far
Originally posted by JorshamoI know a lot of people who voted for him in 2008 are really not satisfied with his performance. Ron Paul is my personal favorite candidate, but I'm surprised to see how much support Rick Perry has. I really don't know much about him, it seems like he came out of nowhere.
You mean, out of the red.
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Originally posted by Mrgoomba909Originally posted by ChanagaburuAs long as Obama doesn't have a second term, I am fine with anyone winning.
^This
Honestly, Obama hasn't helped, He's only made things worse. Hopefully, He has good intention at heart, but His methods aren't working
Then the others will make it work.
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Originally posted by millieman76I don't care who get elected, but first read what they will change!
If they can keep their word on something for the struggling population towards the economy in this horrid country!
Or rights and education decisions, especially citizen rights towards immigrants
I'm getting tired of hearing all this crap that Obama promised some care plan for the economy and epically failed.
That's not an epic fail, THIS is a epic fail.
...and our education is still decent. There are people around the world who go to collage here!
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| Last edited on 2011-09-03 09:34:09 PM by Mastertech2020. |
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| Posted on 2011-09-04 07:31:34 PM |
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Originally posted by person who started thread
Originally posted by ChanagaburuI am independent. Republican goals contradict each other, as do Democratic goals, so that's why I am independent and don't care what party they are.
So you shouldn't care if Obama gets the second term... SCHOOLED!
Yeah, but even if Obama was Republican, I wouldn't vote for him. He hasn't done much for America. So, I don't see how you schooled me.
Man, we need a good president for once.
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| Last edited on 2011-09-04 07:32:51 PM by Chanagaburu. |
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| Posted on 2011-09-04 07:46:55 PM |
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Originally posted by ChanagaburuYeah, but even if Obama was Republican, I wouldn't vote for him. He hasn't done much for America. So, I don't see how you schooled me
So, Obama is best we have; elect the other guys, they will do a crapier job... SUPER-CEDED!
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| Posted on 2011-09-04 08:36:19 PM |
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Originally posted by Mastertech2020Originally posted by ChanagaburuYeah, but even if Obama was Republican, I wouldn't vote for him. He hasn't done much for America. So, I don't see how you schooled me
So, Obama is best we have; elect the other guys, they will do a crapier job... SUPER-CEDED!
I'm not old enough to vote, thus I cannot and will not vote for him (because I do not want to break the law).
It's sad that our best option is Obama, though. Some people really should step up and make themselves be known.
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| Posted on 2011-09-04 10:32:09 PM |
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Ooh I finally get to vote in an election.
I honestly don't see how anyone could take Bachmann as a serious candidate. Her promise to make gas $2.00 was one of the dumbest things I've heard. I'm also tired of Herman Cain talking about how he would never let Sharia law be used in courts. I've never heard of such a case, so that argument seems to have no point whatsoever, except to gain support from the ignorant.
The Republican nomination is probably going to be between Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, and Rick Perry. I would like to see Paul win that nomination, but it'll probably be Romney. One of the things I would like to see worked on would be Social Security. It's a pretty big chunk of annual spending (more than defense).
I do not believe Obama will win re-election. He's made too many enemies on both sides, and by amassing $5+ trillion in debt in his presidency, he's just about matched what Bush added in two terms. The stimulus package did little to nothing besides wasting money. I'm still not sure how someone with so little experience got elected to the presidency.
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| Posted on 2011-09-05 02:02:02 AM |
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I dare scientists to scientifically prove that anyone other than a white male can lead a country. Just look at what happened here in Aus with Julia Gillard. And the less said about most African countries the better (Though Nelson Mandela didn't do too bad)
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| Posted on 2011-09-05 07:47:54 AM |
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Originally posted by WiimeiserI dare scientists to scientifically prove that anyone other than a white male can lead a country. Just look at what happened here in Aus with Julia Gillard. And the less said about most African countries the better (Though Nelson Mandela didn't do too bad)
Are you fucking serious?
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| Posted on 2011-09-05 07:38:55 PM |
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Originally posted by ChanagaburuI'm not old enough to vote, thus I cannot and will not vote for him (because I do not want to break the law).
Wuss! I'm just kidding! It's just like in The Simpsons where Principal Skinner goes on his computer:
Agnes Skinner: Seymour! Are you looking at pictures of naked ladies?
Seymour Skinner: No mother.
Agnes Skinner: You sissy!
Originally posted by ChanagaburuIt's sad that our best option is Obama, though. Some people really should step up and make themselves be known.
Yeah, but the problem is, they are not Americans.
Originally posted by BZMOoh I finally get to vote in an election.
I honestly don't see how anyone could take Bachmann as a serious candidate. Her promise to make gas $2.00 was one of the dumbest things I've heard. I'm also tired of Herman Cain talking about how he would never let Sharia law be used in courts. I've never heard of such a case, so that argument seems to have no point whatsoever, except to gain support from the ignorant.
The Republican nomination is probably going to be between Mitt Romney, Ron Paul, and Rick Perry. I would like to see Paul win that nomination, but it'll probably be Romney. One of the things I would like to see worked on would be Social Security. It's a pretty big chunk of annual spending (more than defense).
I do not believe Obama will win re-election. He's made too many enemies on both sides, and by amassing $5+ trillion in debt in his presidency, he's just about matched what Bush added in two terms. The stimulus package did little to nothing besides wasting money. I'm still not sure how someone with so little experience got elected to the presidency.
Look, here is the thing, your vote doesn't count; it's a "persuasion" for the Electoral Collage to vote for. It would be cheeper if they didn't hold votes for House of Representatives, because it doesn't count!
Originally posted by WiimeiserI dare scientists to scientifically prove that anyone other than a white male can lead a country. Just look at what happened here in Aus with Julia Gillard. And the less said about most African countries the better (Though Nelson Mandela didn't do too bad)
Oh, they won't because once they get the results, they will find out that people, other than whites, can do a better job.
Originally posted by FUGGNUTZOriginally posted by WiimeiserI dare scientists to scientifically prove that anyone other than a white male can lead a country. Just look at what happened here in Aus with Julia Gillard. And the less said about most African countries the better (Though Nelson Mandela didn't do too bad)
Are you fucking serious?
Hey, hey; don’t be racist.
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| Posted on 2011-09-06 01:05:50 AM |
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Well, if people are hating on a black man and a white woman who are failing their job, it's time to do some research. At least a survey.
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| Posted on 2011-09-06 03:39:31 AM |
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Originally posted by BZMI've never heard of such a case, so that argument seems to have no point whatsoever, except to gain support from the ignorant
In the same sentence in which you call yourself ignorant...
Originally posted by MasterTech2020Look, here is the thing, your vote doesn't count; it's a "persuasion" for the Electoral Collage to vote for. It would be cheeper if they didn't hold votes for House of Representatives, because it doesn't count!
I know, right! Look how many times representatives have voted for someone other than who their state voted for over the years. First it was that guy voting for Reagan, then there was... That is... it was... Yeah, no, it's happened exactly once. You're an idiot if you say your vote doesn't count.
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| Posted on 2011-09-06 03:57:23 AM |
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All I have to say is this:
These last two presidencies have taught me that no matter what, it's always the president's fault when stuff doesn't work out as planned. For everything. Ever.
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| Posted on 2011-09-06 06:22:03 AM |
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Originally posted by Mastertech2020Originally posted by FUGGNUTZOriginally posted by WiimeiserI dare scientists to scientifically prove that anyone other than a white male can lead a country. Just look at what happened here in Aus with Julia Gillard. And the less said about most African countries the better (Though Nelson Mandela didn't do too bad)
Are you fucking serious?
Hey, hey; don’t be racist.
Wiimeiser actually was being racist and sexist, so you should yell at him and not FUGGNUTZ.
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| Posted on 2011-09-06 02:50:12 PM |
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I like Huntsman. He seems like the most appropriate candidate.
1. He is anti-imperialist, but takes a neutral stance to our foreign policy. He wants to end our wars and let the rest of the world deal with it so that we can start fixing our economy instead.
2. He's admitted center-right winged. Meaning he believes in opportunity and freedom from taxes and much wider job creation, however he priorities reality over ideology and social justice is a necessary measure to ensure the ideals of opportunity which republicanism SHOULD be striving for.
3. He can speak Chinese/Mandarin. This is VERY important in this age with China's rise to power. He was also AMBASSADOR to China, meaning he understands out economic partners/foes much better than some of the other candidates.
4. He does not want to dictate his views. While he does not agree with gay marriage, but believes in civil unions and supports the rights of homosexuals in despite of his views. While he is pro-life, he also believes in the reality that we need abortions under certain circumstances as well.
I can trust him with both economic security and to not be an idiot.
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