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| Manifesto, anyone? |
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| Posted on 2011-12-27 01:11:04 PM |
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Yeah, yeah, "Mr. Bigmouth" has come to rant as usual, that's probably what you're thinking. But before you chuck your wine bottles at me because I speak properly instead of talking as if I were texting, I want to leave something behind that could be very serious.
What is it you people/users look for in art? Visual aesthetics? Or proper anatomy? Just remember that not everyone in the world has taken all their drawing classes and the visual appearance of a piece of art is just as important as "getting it right". If this Art thread is not a good place to discuss, then so help me.
I could post a copy of my manifesto here and now, but I'm certain many users, if not all of you, would take it offensively, but please let me know if I should dare to and receive a third ban for taking a stand where no one likes reality and would just as soon discuss matters in person instead of on the Internet.
So tell me... is this grounds for discussion? I'll leave this thread open for the so-called pros to decide, but please show respect for your elders if you know what I mean.
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| Posted on 2011-12-27 02:07:14 PM |
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Firstly, I don't think anyone's going to have an issue with you speaking properly (I know I always welcome it)  You'll have to forgive my frequent use of commas.
As far as your question is concerned, I am a firm believer that both anatomy and aesthetics are important wherever the human form is concerned.
The exception generally occurs when you have a very stylized form of drawing which could manifest itself in various ways (thin arms and legs), but they still generally are anatomically proportionate unless you're delving into the abstract.
You should also keep in mind that if you have to point out that your art is 'stylized', you're likely doing it wrong.
You have to consider that it's the 'general public' that dictates whether or not you're good at drawing. If no one else can see the merit in your work, chances are there is something wrong with it.
Lastly, drawing classes are never really a necessity. A lot of this should come with the territory. You look at people every day, and thus you should be able to draw them proportionately and anatomically correct. I've never taken art classes, myself, and I think I have a fairly good handle on how the human body is constructed.
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| Last edited on 2011-12-27 02:17:15 PM by GettinItGEWD. |
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| Posted on 2011-12-28 07:15:21 AM |
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This would be a completely okay thread for discussing your desired topic, if you weren't such a huge wiener and included tons of passive insults and self pity in your post, that just make you look like a huge moron.
After all, about every user on here who ever participated in one of your threads was either on par with your GrAmMaR sKiLlZ or even better.
What's up with you and your "respect your elders" anyway, you won't even tell us how old you are because it's "classified information", so who is supposed to respect who again?
Are you just a really elaborate troll or a strongly misguided person?
To answer the thread, if the legs have different length, the belly button is bigger than the head and the waist is drawn from a completely different perspective than the rest, then it's horrible art.
Wow look, I just described your pictures.
I can, however totally live with people who draw like this if they are willing to improve and take criticism (most people do) and most of the time their next piece looks worlds better than the last one, even without any drawing classes, up to the point where it can be considered 'good art' and looks pleasing.
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| Posted on 2011-12-31 08:08:14 PM |
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QuoteYeah, yeah, "Mr. Bigmouth" has come to rant as usual, that's probably what you're thinking. But before you chuck your wine bottles at me because I speak properly instead of talking as if I were texting
QuoteIf this Art thread is not a good place to discuss, then so help me.
Quoteif I should dare to and receive a third ban for taking a stand where no one likes reality
Quoteplease show respect for your elders
So tell me why we should help you improve your eternally shitty art?
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| Last edited on 2012-01-01 03:22:54 AM by Blumiere. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-01 02:02:36 AM |
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Okay, so you're here to discuss your art? Can anyone call THIS art?
This looks like an amalgamation of terrible drawing skill and an utter disregard for any advice or help you have ever been given. The man in the image is some shameless Gary-Stu of the author, who is 25 years of age by the way for anyone wondering, and the child, whose face is being held against his crotch is what? 2?
What kind of shit are you trying to show us and call art? This is disgusting; not only is the drawing bad, but the context is wrong on so many levels. Are you trying to project your sick fantasies into your drawings or something? No wonder you obsess over the Disney Channel and Phineas and Ferb so much.
Stay classy, Alex.
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| Posted on 2012-01-01 07:31:59 AM |
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Well "Mr. Bigmouth", I'll try to be civil and patient with you instead of being disrespectful. M'kay?
Originally posted by The ThunderWhat is it you people/users look for in art? Visual aesthetics? Or proper anatomy?
Both. You don't want make your drawings look anatomically wrong and awkward. It's true, like you said, that not everyone has taken art classes. However, keep in mind that you do want to keep your drawings proportionally realistic and recognizably human.
In regards to the negative response from the community: I think the problem why some users are so hostile at you because you refuse to listen to their critique. However, most of their criticism is really constructive (hence constructive criticism) to help you improve your art so don't take it too negatively!
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| Last edited on 2012-01-01 07:49:23 AM by Hawthorne. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-04 02:54:22 PM |
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Closing this thread because *insert long list of well thought out reasons that while typed with the genuine hope that someday you may improve your online and artistic experience, you will inevitably ignore due to your complete inability to see things from outside your extremely warped, self-pitying, egoistical point of view*
And also because you can't post here anymore.
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