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| Posted on 2012-01-13 08:18:37 AM |
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Holy shit that just scared the shit out of me, I almost starting crying =| But I realized when I got on here I was like wait... wouldn't they have blocked the whole damn site? Then I felt happy again =) I hope this damn bill does not pass, half the stuff I do requires the internet, and probably 99.9999% of it would be blocked!!
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 08:35:02 AM |
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damn it... now they stole our banner...
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 08:46:59 AM |
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Originally posted by YouAreSuperMarioSmall question Kieran. You're from Not America aren't you? If so, then how will the new law affect this site and other sites not directly based in America?
Well, on multiple levels. The bill would permit blocking out websites without trial. For instance, if we were targeted, SMW Central would become unavailable in the U.S.. More importantly, though, is that if the bill passes, it is likely other countries will follow. When will it stop?
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 08:51:53 AM |
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Originally posted by marioVSshadowWell if it goes through [...] It won't though.
Ahahahahahahaha. Knowing how corrupt beyond belief US politics are, the bill would be passed in a heartbeat unless people start major shitstorms to oppose the bill.
"Free speech? Fuck that, I get millions for stopping piracy. Have fun, to-be criminals!"
Originally posted by YouAreSuperMarioSmall question Kieran. You're from Not America aren't you? If so, then how will the new law affect this site and other sites not directly based in America?
I heard that anything ending in ".com" and ".net" America can actually be in control over (regardless of where the server is based). Is that right?
To extremely oversimplify things, the laws would - among other things - allow companies to essentially block sites (or technically, domains) in the US, no matter where in the world they are. As such, us non-Americans wouldn't be directly effected, but would find ourselves without half our userbase as Americans stop visiting the site. ...those without the knowledge of how to bypass the blockade, that is.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 08:54:39 AM |
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Originally posted by YouAreSuperMarioSmall question Kieran. You're from Not America aren't you?
Wow, that's a way to say outside the US I've never heard before.
Technically, though, this website isn't American, and should not be affected by SOPA. Unless it spreads to other countries, and we all end up living like Chinese people, only knowing what we're allowed to know.
This bill is just wrong, on so many levels. It's a giant step backwards, free speech-wise. The US government should know better.
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| Last edited on 2012-01-13 08:55:35 AM by Martin9172. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:00:33 AM |
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Wow. People are taking this so seriously. Perhaps it really is a big deal...
Not really. It hasn't even made international news (at least not over here). Your 'corrupt' US government has already rejected a similar bill so why should it happen any different this time? For once, the press isn't the one making it bloated out of proportion. It's the people. The only reason I know about SOPA is because little crybaby bitches are making a mountain out of a molehill.
I can't wait to see this bill fail (which it will) just so I can have the biggest 'I told you so' moment ever.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:03:31 AM |
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I seriously thought this was some form of scary hoax at first, but now I'm not so sure. Main thing being that I haven't heard of this on the news. It worries me, but I'll have to wait a little longer to see if it's real or not.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:05:08 AM |
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Originally posted by sunwarrior25Main thing being that I haven't heard of this on the news.
Supporting the point I just made. And he's from the US.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:11:35 AM |
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I'm from the US, and i think this is bad for me too...
Also, this topic kinda gives me the willies, and if it passes, i'll never see SMWC again! I just need to hope it doesn't pass...
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| Last edited on 2012-01-13 09:26:16 AM by Falconpunch. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:17:38 AM |
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It will affect all websites, domestic as well as foreign. In fact, I heard it's especially meant as a tool against foreign sites, because you can't just pull those to court.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:21:00 AM |
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Originally posted by marioVSshadowWow. People are taking this so seriously. Perhaps it really is a big deal...
Not really. It hasn't even made international news (at least not over here). Your 'corrupt' US government has already rejected a similar bill so why should it happen any different this time? For once, the press isn't the one making it bloated out of proportion. It's the people. The only reason I know about SOPA is because little crybaby bitches are making a mountain out of a molehill.
I can't wait to see this bill fail (which it will) just so I can have the biggest 'I told you so' moment ever.
It's obvious you haven't been following the progress of SOPA and PROTECT-IP. Both bills have been set up for quick passage through Congress despite the huge public resistance to their passage. The house committee hearings for SOPA were a complete joke in which the chairman (who's supposed to be a neutral party) struck down all 50+ amendments the people opposing the bill had proposed in order to water down the bill and make it less destructive. Lawmakers in favor of the bill have gone on the house record as saying they don't actually know much about the bill but support it anyways. You can follow the money behind the bill's backers and see that most of it comes directly from the MPAA and RIAA, both of which would directly benefit from the bill's passage, and in fact, are probably the ones telling their Congressional pawns to put the bills forward in the first place.
Yes, we struck down a similar law last year, but that doesn't mean we can say this one will fail too. This one is moving much faster and has a much more dangerous scope. If there's even a chance of it passing, it's in our best interests as internet users to oppose the bills.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:32:44 AM |
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Can't say I was really panicked. I figured the staff'd do something like this.
But yeah, politics are corrupt. The lot of 'em need a guillotine. In my opinion, both FirePhoenix and marioVSshadow make a good point: The news really hasn't been jumping around a lot, since this is the only site I've heard it from. On the other hand, if these organizations do have pawns and money, well, that's your ticket to a lot of things, considering how the word "moral" was murdered by all politicians.
Personally, however, I think the bill is dead whether it passes or not. People have protested bills AFTER they passed, before. And usually with a touch more fervor. It'd be a bit like the internet going down for a bit, I think.
~Artemis and the team.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 09:48:44 AM |
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Originally posted by marioVSshadowWow. People are taking this so seriously. Perhaps it really is a big deal...
Not really. It hasn't even made international news (at least not over here). Your 'corrupt' US government has already rejected a similar bill so why should it happen any different this time? For once, the press isn't the one making it bloated out of proportion. It's the people. The only reason I know about SOPA is because little crybaby bitches are making a mountain out of a molehill.
I can't wait to see this bill fail (which it will) just so I can have the biggest 'I told you so' moment ever.
If this bill passes, other countries are most likely to follow in the US foot steps. Even if you do not take it seriously, we are internet users, if this bill follows through, you could be in for the long haul as well. You may not want to be believe it, or just cannot accept the fact that the internet could pretty much evaporate any day. Sorry if I sound aggressive, not trying to insult you or anything, just this bill really pisses me off...
Also take a look at this video, it just... ENRAGES ME.
Did you know you could go to jail for 5 YEARS for posting something Copy-written? Even if you do not mean to do so... What the hell? They are trying to to censor our Freedom, our Justice... our Liberty.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 10:00:20 AM |
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Something funny I found. According to this article, Lamar Smith, one of the main sponsors of SOPA, has accidentally committed copyright infringement by not crediting the image he used for his own site. Hoisted by his own petard, much?
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 10:11:31 AM |
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While I really believe that SOPA will most likely either die in the Senate or be vetoed by Obama, I think it is worth being concerned about these sorts of things.
Opposing a wrong is the right thing to do in almost any situation. Failing to oppose a wrong is wrong just as often.
When people become completely apathetic, anything can be done to them. Just look at what governments have done in the past while the populace as been complacent.
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| Last edited on 2012-01-13 10:12:48 AM by andy_k_250. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 10:20:27 AM |
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Let's hope nothing will happen to this beautiful site. I'll dead if this will gone!
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 10:20:50 AM |
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By the way speaking of that, will SMWCentral be taking part in any blackouts at all?
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| Last edited on 2012-01-13 10:21:20 AM by YouAreSuperMario. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 10:27:19 AM |
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To all Europeans who are ignorant of this: there is a huge chance that this will pass because of what FP said. Why do you think everyone is taking gigantic steps to stop it (including the supposed blackout day)? This would pretty much kill the internet.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 10:33:33 AM |
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Personally, I'm not scared by this whole thing. It's not that I don't care, but similar things have happened many times in the past, people have panicked believing it would be the end of the internet, and in the end nothing happens. History just repeats itself.
I am aware this one seems more dangerous than the past ones, but even if it's approved, I don't think things will get as awful as everyone makes them sound. A scenario like the one Artemiscat55 described is likely to happen; not to mention the internet is too big and shutting down every single site that infringes copyright is impossible.
Even if the worse was to come, and most of the internet was shut down for real, I wouldn't really mind. It'll probably take some time, but I'll get used to the fact of living without the internet. I've learnt to adapt new situations during my life.
That being said, I know the reason why these bills fail is because of the efforts many people. I don't like sitting with my arms crossed, but unfortunately, I don't think there's much I can do since I don't live in the USA. There's this petition thought which may work; I just signed it some moments ago, you may want to sign it too if you haven't done yet.
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| Posted on 2012-01-13 10:52:05 AM |
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Originally posted by aj6666I am aware this one seems more dangerous than the past ones, but even if it's approved, I don't think things will get as awful as everyone makes them sound. A scenario like the one Artemiscat55 described is likely to happen; not to mention the internet is too big and shutting down every single site that infringes copyright is impossible.
They'll be using DNS blacklisting, so it's not really taking down the sites, it's just making it so our computers can't find them. Adding a site to that could be done in a matter of seconds, it would not be difficult for them to take down every popular site that infringes copyright (Especially since there need not be a long legal procedure where opposing sides express their views, it's totally one sided).
Originally posted by aj6666Even if the worse was to come, and most of the internet was shut down for real, I wouldn't really mind. It'll probably take some time, but I'll get used to the fact of living without the internet. I've learnt to adapt new situations during my life.
I don't really know what it's like in Mexico, but this is a matter of freedom to Americans. It's not that we couldn't get on without the internet, it's that they are taking away yet another freedom, and this is a big one.
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