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| Posted on 2012-01-23 08:36:53 PM |
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Mediafire will probably do this next. If that happens, it's just Rapidshare.
Hypothetical question: The defendant owned lots of sites containing the word "Mega". What would happen if the US were to ban use of the word? Yanmega, anyone?
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| Posted on 2012-01-23 08:41:21 PM |
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The idea of the US banning the word "Mega" is stupid. It's like if say the movie "Titanic" was banned and now nobody could say Titanic. There's no point to it.
However, I do agree that many other sites are probably going to follow FileSonic and FileServe's decision. Mediafire might not be next, since there's some other smaller ones like FileFactory.
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| Posted on 2012-01-24 09:42:24 AM |
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So the only reason they were arrested was for piracy?
Hmm...
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| Posted on 2012-01-24 03:20:00 PM |
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Ok. Everybody shut up and read this.
And I mean read it. If you don't, I will know!
Megaupload were not shut down because there servers were hosting copyrighted content. They were shut down because the head honchos of the Mega industries were making money from their own piracy circle.
Megaupload state in their terms of use that copyrighted content should not be uploaded and that YOU are responsible for what you upload/download.
Rapidshare, Mediafire, and pretty much every other filesharing site and public webhost has this or something similar in their terms of use (heck even SMWC does) therefore, it's not their asses on the line. Unless it turns out an owner (or owners) of another site is involving themselves in illegal activity, they cannot be shut down.
tl;dr It was not the user uploaded content which got Megaupload shut down!
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| Last edited on 2012-01-24 03:24:57 PM by MVS. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-24 03:26:35 PM |
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Originally posted by marioVSshadowOk. Everybody shut up and read this.
And I mean read it. If you don't, I will know!
Megaupload were not shut down because there servers were hosting copyrighted content. They were shut down because the head honchos of the Mega industries were making money from their own piracy circle.
Megaupload state in their terms of use that copyrighted content should not be uploaded and that YOU are responsible for what you upload/download.
Rapidshare, Mediafire, and pretty much every other filesharing site and public webhost has this or something similar in their terms of use (heck even SMWC does) therefore, it's not their asses on the line. Unless it turns out an owner (or owners) of another site is involving themselves in illegal activity, they cannot be shut down.
tl;dr It was not the user uploaded content which got Megaupload shut down!
Yeah... I don't think so. the FBI didn't took (?) it like that.
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| Posted on 2012-01-24 03:56:27 PM |
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Originally posted by l30n4rd0
Yeah... I don't think so. the FBI didn't took (?) it like that.
If you read the link I posted, their own indictment claims what mvs said; I was the first one to post it here, too. :/ However, unlike mvs, I'm not going to state it's actually the truth; we don't know the truth yet. Still, it is possible that they are telling the truth, that Megaupload's staff DID have their little piracy circle and disobeying not only the law but their own rules, and THIS is why they were shut down.
of course, all the theories on it are equally possible because we don't know the truth. lol
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| Posted on 2012-01-25 08:23:50 PM |
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Originally posted by Riolu180Originally posted by l30n4rd0
Yeah... I don't think so. the FBI didn't took (?) it like that.
If you read the link I posted, their own indictment claims what mvs said; I was the first one to post it here, too. :/ However, unlike mvs, I'm not going to state it's actually the truth; we don't know the truth yet. Still, it is possible that they are telling the truth, that Megaupload's staff DID have their little piracy circle and disobeying not only the law but their own rules, and THIS is why they were shut down.
of course, all the theories on it are equally possible because we don't know the truth. lol
There are lots of rumors. Now a friend of mine says that SOPA is a myth (which I think is truth) and that Megaupload was taken down by a hacker (and he says he's mexican. I don't believe that)
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| Posted on 2012-01-25 11:03:51 PM |
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Originally posted by l30n4rd0Now a friend of mine says that SOPA is a myth (which I think is truth)
... SOPA is a... Myth? I'm honestly not sure what to make of that, but I hope that the fact that it is on the Library of Congress website (here's the full text in case you want to read it) will be enough to convince you that it is, in fact, very real.
Originally posted by l30n4rd0and that Megaupload was taken down by a hacker
Your friend is insane. Just letting you know.
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| Posted on 2012-01-26 04:58:32 AM |
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Some fascinating details of the founder's history, who wasn't even 'known' to be the founder of Megaupload until 2011. Feature story, really makes you wonder who the hell was this rich man who "spent $1m (£684,000) chartering a 240-foot luxury yacht for a week, mooring it in Monte Carlo harbour for the Monaco Formula One Grand Prix and throwing lavish parties for guests including Prince Ranier of Monaco", and had police helicopters flown in to arrest him
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| Last edited on 2012-01-26 05:07:29 AM by Ultimaximus. |
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| Posted on 2012-01-26 06:03:14 AM |
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Originally posted by Riolu180Still, it is possible that they are telling the truth, that Megaupload's staff DID have their little piracy circle and disobeying not only the law but their own rules, and THIS is why they were shut down.
I'm sure the feds don't have any juristiction to shut down a website because their own staff weren't obeying the rules they thought up. Furthermore, a "piracy circle" likely exists at virtually every file sharing website and even normal websites.
The only thing that makes sense about shutting down Megaupload particularly is what Alcaro posted.
The record label was about to lose every single music artist out there. As the leader was husband with a famous singer I'm sure this would've scared the fuck out of Hollywood.
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| Posted on 2012-01-26 08:11:04 AM |
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Originally posted by Ultimaximus
Hahahahahaha what
I'm sorry. That's overkill, I have to say
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| Posted on 2012-01-26 11:57:34 AM |
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Originally posted by Blumiere
I'm sure the feds don't have any juristiction to shut down a website because their own staff weren't obeying the rules they thought up. Furthermore, a "piracy circle" likely exists at virtually every file sharing website and even normal websites.
The only thing that makes sense about shutting down Megaupload particularly is what Alcaro posted.
The record label was about to lose every single music artist out there. As the leader was husband with a famous singer I'm sure this would've scared the fuck out of Hollywood.
Actually, Blu, what I read said that Megaupload's staff was also breaking New Zealand laws with what they supposedly did, and that agencies AROUND THE WORLD, even in New Zealand, assisted in the takedown. Perhaps they were all eyeing it at the same time and decided together to take it down?
I don't think we have any real way of knowing. Anything is possible, I suppose.
(Also I honestly doubt the FBI would actually assist in taking down Megaupload if it was only because of the music thing. They say all the time, no one tells them who to arrest...)
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| Posted on 2012-01-26 12:59:39 PM |
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Quote(Also I honestly doubt the FBI would actually assist in taking down Megaupload if it was only because of the music thing. They say all the time, no one tells them who to arrest...)
You don't know much about the US government, then.
Often actions of the government will be justified with something along the lines of "protecting economic interests." This means they're actively helping a large corporation or corporations make money. For example, the CIA overthrew the Iranian government in the 50s solely to help Britain monopolize the oil there.
The FBI's not especially notorious for this like the CIA is, but they're not above it either.
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| Posted on 2012-01-31 10:32:03 PM |
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I asked before and I'll ask again: What will the feds do in regards to Web archives of the site?
Also, I have a disturbing feeling the Touhou Fandom is their next target.
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| Posted on 2012-02-05 12:30:26 AM |
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MegaUpload used third-party hosting sites for their servers. Those providers have agreed not to delete the data without warning, but since MegaUpload has had its assets frozen, it cannot pay. Theoretically (and they want to) the providers could wipe it clean, but that's more politically risky.
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| Posted on 2012-02-10 11:05:38 PM |
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Originally posted by HuFlungDuOriginally posted by l30n4rd0and that Megaupload was taken down by a hacker
Your friend is insane. Just letting you know.
I somehow agree with you. I don't believe him.
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| Posted on 2012-02-20 08:13:57 PM |
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The data's been deleted. All of it. No recovery, no way for Dotcom to defend his case now.
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