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| Posted on 2012-02-26 10:50:17 PM |
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So, it's official--I am going Apple as of August or September of this year. Long story short: my current custom-built computer that is running Windows XP needs to be replaced (it has a weird error that causes it to freeze every ten hours), and I own an iPad and will be buying an iPhone in a few years. As such, I want to make the switch over to Apple.
The only thing giving me some concern is that Anvil Studio, one of the most user-friendly music writing programs, is only compatible with Windows. Sure, there are good OS X music writing programs like GarageBand and Logic, but I've been using AS for almost ten years and would like to find some way to stick with it.
My main question here is whether or not there is a way I can run AS on my upcoming OS X. Are there Mac-friendly builds of AS? If not, then can I run AS through Wine?
Any Apple-savvy users out there might know more about this than me, which is why I am asking.
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| Posted on 2012-02-27 12:56:14 AM |
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Although I don't own a Mac OS and never intend to, I've had help out my friend with his Mac Book a hell of a lot. I've found that Wine can run most Windows only programs so you should be fine. If all else fails though, I think there's a Mac OS version of FL Studio which I'd probably recommend more than Anvil Studio.
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| Posted on 2012-02-27 04:56:26 AM |
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Don't. You get an underpowered, undercooled, overpriced PC running a shitty version of BSD.
you could try VMware though.
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| Posted on 2012-02-27 11:01:57 AM |
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Originally posted by CommieYoshiDon't. You get an underpowered, undercooled, overpriced PC running a shitty version of BSD. This, so much this. Mac OS X is rather locked-down, not many people develop for it, and everything CommieYoshi and byuu are saying has base. I'm not gonna sugar-coat my opinion on Apple (the company, I'm neutral to the Mac operating system even though it may not seem it) so I realize I might offend Apple fans with this post, but I want to make it clear I'm not trolling or looking for an argument. I have strong anti-Apple views, but respect your opinion if you like Apple. You've been warned.
The way Apple doesn't give a royal fuck about Foxconn associates infuriates me both as a worker and human being; from plant explosions and employee suicides to child labor, environmental pollution, falsified records, and abominable working conditions, Apple will get blood on its hands for money and give absolutely nothing back to people who break their backs to make their shiny white shit. They're all talk and no action, and things continue to worsen for Foxconn workers. Especially read the NY Times article. It's heartwrenching.
You as a customer are wholly as meaningless to Apple, sans your wallet. They put out a ton of misleading information about their product to reel people in that has been beaten to death as far as being proven false, such as "OSX is true UNIX." Apple is notoriously lazy (and sometimes outright inept) about patching holes in Apple software that can compromise your OS and they expect to get the information to fix such holes incredibly cheap. Your "security" is through obscurity and not design, although you'd think more malicious hackers would target Mac users because there's a lot of money to be made out of 'em... and six percent of online desktops is not a small number of people if you consider just how many people there are in the world who have a frickin computer and internet service.
You have to buy every "service pack" for your operating system and pay a fortune for any "custom" Mac you make on Apple's site - I dare you to build a PC on Newegg and one on Apple with the same specs and compare the price, and shit bricks. OSX also does not support nearly as much hardware as other operating systems, Windows included, so you need a more specific build if you want to run OSX with stability. Again with Apple and its marketing myths: "You can only run OSX on a Mac computer" is false, it's all about netting cash.
Don't take this as aggression towards yourself, Camerin. There's absolutely none intended. This is all my "love" for Apple. I could go on more about their lawsuit-happy, patent-whoring tendencies as well but I believe this is more than enough. It's still your decision whether or not you wanna buy it with this information on the table. If you're really dead set on going Apple, I hope you're rich. It's a wicked expensive brand.
NOW ONTO THE OTHER ISSUE AT HAND: STUDIO THE ANVIL
You'd be out of luck with Anvil Studio in Wine. It's unmaintained and the latest results show it doesn't work. The only test result showing any sort of functionality at all is 1.0-rc1 with an older release of Dreamlinux, and even that was somewhat buggy. For the sake of modern-day results and helping you, I just tried running the latest AS under the latest Wine on Gentoo, got the necessary DLLs, and I tried it with Mono 2.8 and .NET 4.0: AS installs fine but the program itself fails to start. I doubt it'd be any different for OSX.
The only sure-fire way you are going to run Anvil Studio and have it all work is natively, so, I suggest if you buy a new prebuilt PC, Windows 7 with the right security software will serve your needs much better. Switching to Mac and using it to run Windows-only software which you consider a necessity seems illogical to me, like shooting yourself in the foot, man.
Or, better yet, if you need Anvil Studio and want to save your current computer, please tell more about your error. Your computer sounds salvagable and it could be a simple fix. Is the CPU usage maxed out when it freezes, is it overheating and due for a fan cleaning, is it malware, should you reinstall Windows etc. It's worth trying to debug before you throw in the white flag.
...and if worst comes to worst, there's always a Linux/BSD distro which can run on your current hardware, some of which even look exactly like OS X but have more flexibility. However, because Anvil Studio is crap in Wine, I think Rosegarden would be your next best bet as a free alternative MIDI editor. Rosegarden has a really steep learning curve IMO and I don't even like it, so I think you should try to stick to Windows...
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| Posted on 2012-02-27 11:37:51 AM |
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Apple since 1997 is too busy making fashion accessory computers dumbed down to appliances rather than making good computers.
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| Last edited on 2012-02-27 11:38:03 AM by CommieYoshi. |
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| Posted on 2012-02-27 12:01:41 PM |
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Counterfeit, thank you for providing this information for me. I have not actually bought the Mac, yet, so any worthwhile opinions are helpful. Normally, I would not tolerate Apple VS Windows VS other OS discussions in a thread not set up for them, but you took a lot of time writing up that post and providing evidence to support your claims.
I had heard about Foxcon and the abominable working conditions in their plants in China and other places. This information was presented to me at University, where my professor discussed that Apple has done nothing to reprimand Foxcon.
On this matter, then only thing I can counter with is that every multi-million-dollar corporation has its dark side. The clothes we wear are made in sweatshops where women and children are paid nine cents an hour. The telemarketers we hang up on and bitch about are often poor, working-class immigrants forced to take the only paying job they can find. When we eat at fast-food restaurants, we never stop to think that the greasy hamburgers and French Fries we buy could have been made by a single mother with a cold, unable to take time off to take care of herself because the company she works for will fire her. The 'news' we watch on television and assume to be true is usually only one of several versions of what actually happened; a more accurate version of events always exists, but journalists are not always pressured, or even allowed, to be truthful. Hell, even Google, the company whose slogan is, "Don't be evil," only paid 2% in taxes this year whereas most people will pay ten to fifteen times that.
Every corporation, no matter how much they claim otherwise, has dirt and blood on its hands. Does that make it right? Absolutely not. Can we do anything about it? I don't know. I did not raise this point to find an answer or a solution, but to show you that what you have noted will not be ignored.
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Now, to the technology side of things.
It's a shame that AS won't run well, if at all, on OS X. Fortunately, my older cousin and I have used Logic Pro to write music, and I have used GarageBand before, too. My problem with FL Studio is that it's powerful but not user-friendly.
Whether I get OS X, Windows 7, or an independent OS, I will be getting a new computer in a few months. Not only was my current computer custom built (making upgrades almost impossible), but it has that weird error that I will try to describe.
Every ten hours of run time, things on my monitor will start to disappear and 'flicker'. I can use and shut down my computer at that point, but if I leave it for, say, ten more minutes, I will get an error message saying that "not enough storage space is available to execute the intended program," whatever that means. By that point, I can only shut down my computer by force (holding the OFF button for four seconds).
I intended (and, in many ways, still do intend, albeit with a guilty conscience) to get a Mac because I already own a few Apple products. If people want to add opposing or supporting points to Counterfeit's argument, they can, although I'm not really interested in opening this up to the next "Mac VS everyone else" debate.
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| Last edited on 2012-02-27 12:02:15 PM by Camerin. |
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| Posted on 2012-02-27 12:15:00 PM |
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I just have a question, why exactly do you want a Mac? Just because you own an iPad and an iPhone?
If so, I fail to see the validity of that reason, since to my knowledge Windows can do everything with an iPhone that a Mac can, and so far I haven't really seen any pros in getting a Mac in this thread, other than the extremely present hip-attribute, which is, uh, not really important, and doesn't help you run Anvil Studio.
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| Posted on 2012-02-27 02:44:31 PM |
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Originally posted by Camerin(making upgrades almost impossible)
Almost always, a custom built computer actually makes it easier to upgrade.
Like I said, you could use Windows in a virtual machine like in VMware or VirtualBox, or Boot Camp, essentially turning your shiny thing into a PC that costs a grand.
Or WINE, but it's schizo and even worse on Macs.
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| Posted on 2012-03-01 12:49:56 AM |
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Originally posted by CamerinSo, it's official--I am going Apple as of August or September of this year. Long story short: my current custom-built computer that is running Windows XP needs to be replaced (it has a weird error that causes it to freeze every ten hours), and I own an iPad and will be buying an iPhone in a few years. As such, I want to make the switch over to Apple.
The only thing giving me some concern is that Anvil Studio, one of the most user-friendly music writing programs, is only compatible with Windows. Sure, there are good OS X music writing programs like GarageBand and Logic, but I've been using AS for almost ten years and would like to find some way to stick with it.
My main question here is whether or not there is a way I can run AS on my upcoming OS X. Are there Mac-friendly builds of AS? If not, then can I run AS through Wine?
Any Apple-savvy users out there might know more about this than me, which is why I am asking.
Why do you want mac os x for only music writing again ?? <_<
If you really feel up to it, build yourself a good pc and make sure you look at mac's computer specs for intel core2duo to your pc spec for build up's.
I haven't done this on VM yet, but I can try to do it on friday afternoon when I get my computer back online.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/how-to-install-mac-os-x-on-a-pc-without-using-a-mac/
I know we cannot talk about torrents, why not get a xp oem license from ebay, very good prices and such.
I'll provide you with something to help get you anvil once your ready and go from there.
Build a LGA 1155 pentium G630 sandy bridge pc and try it out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116406
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131793
I chose this motherboard for you, because VIA's onboard sound seems to really aggrevate me when playing and glitching up like crazy.
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| Last edited on 2012-03-01 12:57:06 AM by MikeXP-Technology-solutions. |
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