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| Posted on 2012-07-21 02:19:34 PM |
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So his first crime was at the theater and was once sane!?????? Unusual...I don't really understand this at all. Why would a medicle apprentice do this?? I suppose it has to do something with others around him or mabey something very bad happened to him. I all I got to say is that this is probably the work of bad ghosts.
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| Posted on 2012-07-21 03:05:30 PM |
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What a world we live in... Where you can't even go out to enjoy a movie anymore without the fear of dying. Its things like this that really make me lose my faith in humanity. I'm honestly at a loss of words. All I hope is this guy gets the death sentence, nothing less than that (maybe with the exception of life in prison).
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| Posted on 2012-07-21 03:31:54 PM |
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Originally posted by ResinWhat a world we live in... Where you can't even go out to enjoy a movie anymore without the fear of dying. Its things like this that really make me lose my faith in humanity. I'm honestly at a loss of words. All I hope is this guy gets the death sentence, nothing less than that (maybe with the exception of life in prison).
I have lost faith in humanity ages ago and there's absolutely nothing that can surprise me anymore.
That being said, while I do understand the people that think this guy needs rehabilitation, I still can't help but feel that this douche should just be disposed of. Taking away a lot of innocent lives for no reason and then getting the chance for redemption isn't fair, it won't bring the dead back at all. Then again me saying this guy deserves death makes me a hypocrite too. Oh well, you can't be everybody's darling and I don't care what other people may think about me.
I'll pray for the victims and their families. May they rest in peace.
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| Posted on 2012-07-21 11:01:16 PM |
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I actually live ~20 minutes from the shooting so it hit really close to home. Theaters were like airport security the day after, which is when I saw it (utterly fantastic movie by the way).
I'm 100% for the death penalty on this guy (like anyone who goes on killing sprees). Simply its not possible to fund someone in jail for the rest of their life and even if you could somehow rehabilitate them, what do you say to the familes of those he killed? How would he repay for those crimes? And likewise, he seemed so normal before he went out and killed people- how can you be sure he won't do it again?
According to some police officers he said he "was the joker." So he's a maniac. Even if it was politically motivated, does that justify what he did?
Either he can suffer in jail for his entire life wasting precious state resources, or we can be done with the whole thing. There's no moral gain from not executing a maniac who stands almost no hope.
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| Posted on 2012-07-22 12:49:32 AM |
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Originally posted by MaxxI actually live ~20 minutes from the shooting so it hit really close to home. Theaters were like airport security the day after, which is when I saw it (utterly fantastic movie by the way).
I'm 100% for the death penalty on this guy (like anyone who goes on killing sprees). Simply its not possible to fund someone in jail for the rest of their life and even if you could somehow rehabilitate them, what do you say to the familes of those he killed? How would he repay for those crimes? And likewise, he seemed so normal before he went out and killed people- how can you be sure he won't do it again?
According to some police officers he said he "was the joker." So he's a maniac. Even if it was politically motivated, does that justify what he did?
Either he can suffer in jail for his entire life wasting precious state resources, or we can be done with the whole thing. There's no moral gain from not executing a maniac who stands almost no hope.
Goddamn, Maxx. My feelings go out to you, man. I'm sure plenty of people you know were in that theater. Aurora must be like a police state right now, considering that it has graced all news stations for 2 straight days.
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| Posted on 2012-07-22 05:20:34 AM |
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Originally posted by SunsAlso, Dinomar, that's a very... dichotomous way of thinking you have, but I understand how an event like this can provoke such strong emotions...
Uh... strangely, even my parents do say that (in another way, though, they say i don't see any grey, only black and white), so if other people do think that, i think i'd reflect about myself... but it'll be later. At least you were nicer than Derpy Backslide, who doesn't know that people that want death sentence are not necessairly mean and douche.(at least his post made me think so) Can't anyone have his "reasonable" idea? Really, if you like my opinion, good, if you don't, too bad. No need to treat me like a dick only because i support death penality in tragic and clamorous situations like this.
I'm not trying to be ableist: It depends from what i mean by saying "insane": in this case i don't mean mentally illed people in general (i think mentally illed people can be good natured or something like), but i mean people that just want to see the world burn in their eyes! And this James Holmes is definitively one. And from this, i also thought one thing that when i thought it, i got an illumination, but it depends from opinions, i think (but i'm sure i'm not the only one). Have you in mind when the killer shouted "I'M THE JOKER!!!"?? Well, even if he didn't look like the Joker from "The Dark Knight" at all, i think he wanted to emulate him for real, and i even start to think he's pretty much like him, but a smaller version. Joker, from "The Dark Knight", is a character with no morality, pure evil that kills people for anything but enjoying to see the world burning by his eyes. He's insane, but it may not be necessairly "mentally illed" for real. And that makes things worse, in my opinion. And Holmes did pretty much like the Joker, but in a smaller scale (the Joker from the film is a kind of superbad with people helping him, while Holmes was alone).
If there is no apparent reason of why Holmes did that (and he even wanted to blow up his apartament together with neightborhood), So i just think this guy has no morality at all. He just wanted to see the world burning. And maybe he doesn't even care if he dies or not (but i still 100% support death penality). But without investigation, we cannot be completely sure of what made this monster want to do something like that. I hope the police and the detectives will give more results with their investigation, since it seemed they gave good infos, for now.
On another note, he's been brought to isolation cell (article)... and spitting in jail??
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| Last edited on 2012-07-22 05:25:17 AM by Alessio. |
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| Posted on 2012-07-22 07:59:36 AM |
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Originally posted by news article posted aboveit is doubtful that James Holmes would live to make his first court appearance on Monday, if he was released into general population.
I can see this happening and will be largely disappointed if it does. I want them to get some more information out of this guy and what his motives were.
While I do sympathize with the victims in the shooting and their friends in families (I give you my sympathy as well Maxx since I'm sure you knew a couple people who were in the theater at the time) I still feel this guy should be rehabilitated. The spitting in jail only furthers the idea that this guy is mentally unstable in one of the worst ways, along with all the previous other happenings.
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| Posted on 2012-07-22 12:25:02 PM |
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So do I. It's odd to see a highly intelligent student convert to an organic weapon of doom. There must be a reason to his actions. This all feels BIZARRE. They should find ALL of his records if possible. Why would he deny himself having a keen mind to throw it away to become a dispised person?
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| Posted on 2012-07-27 06:02:34 PM |
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I saw the batman movie tonight, it really lived up to its expectations. But I had this strange feeling while watching it, thinking of what part of the movie the man came in and started shooting, like "its totaly out of this world that innocent people watching the same movie as me now got killed while watching". And of course, as paranoid as I tend to be, I watched the cinema door the times people went to toilet. It was a little unconfortable, but the great movie mostly cauth my attention. I feel so sorry for the famlies left behind this non sense, and also the movie makers behind batman who will get this dirty stample over their great movie.
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| Posted on 2012-07-27 06:22:11 PM |
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Originally posted by MaxxSimply its not possible to fund someone in jail for the rest of their life
Kaijyuu mentioned this earlier, but unless you advocate "hanging them and reusing the rope", the death sentence is actually far more expensive than life without parole.
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| Posted on 2012-07-27 10:47:25 PM |
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Originally posted by HuFlungDuOriginally posted by MaxxSimply its not possible to fund someone in jail for the rest of their life
Kaijyuu mentioned this earlier, but unless you advocate "hanging them and reusing the rope", the death sentence is actually far more expensive than life without parole.
Yeah, when you add up the lawyer fees, injections, executioners' wages, and other things, it usually surpasses lifetime imprisonment in terms of cost. I don't believe in the death penalty myself, I think it's inefficient and does nothing more than satisfy primal urges for vengeance.
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| Posted on 2012-07-29 12:25:59 PM |
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Originally posted by Suns
Yeah, when you add up the lawyer fees, injections, executioners' wages, and other things, it usually surpasses lifetime imprisonment in terms of cost. I don't believe in the death penalty myself, I think it's inefficient and does nothing more than satisfy primal urges for vengeance.
I don't know anyone personally who died- but one of my friends (somewhat) knew somebody in the theater. They're fine but shaken I'd bet.
Also, I was actually under the impression that the lethal injection (used in most death penalties) is actually the problem with the whole system. Death row gets clogged up, and the injection itself is expensive and hard to get suppliers from. I'd have to do some research.
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| Posted on 2012-07-29 12:38:16 PM |
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In any case, he's trying to avoid capital penality (death or life sentence, i mean) by pretending to not remembering anything. I don't believe hih, at all. And if there is a little justice out of here, i hope they will not label him as "mentally illed", because he isn't. He is aware of what he did. I don't know what's worse, death or life penality: if you give death penality, you just nuke a person from the world, if you give life penality, you make a person live a meaningless, dull and boring life. And he was also under suicide surveillance.
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| Posted on 2012-08-01 07:43:46 AM |
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Isn't it odd,that the protagonist of Sherlock Holmes is called Sherlock Holmes and that the anthagonist is calles James Moriarty and if you put together the first name of the anthagonist and the second name of the protagonist the name is "James Holmes"?
Nevermind. IMO it's a very sad,crazy and mysterious story.
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| Posted on 2012-08-01 10:53:02 AM |
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Now a new fandom is born and those fans are called "holimes"...
Seriously, what the fuck???
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