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| Posted on 2012-04-12 04:53:33 AM |
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mathelete, per chance, do you have a backup of your review saved in a text file? I believe this would be a good thing to make a habit of. I didn't see your review before it got deleted, so if you can link it, maybe more of us could try to help you improve it. I wouldn't bank on the idea that a moderator will remember removing your review specifically or what it said considering the amount they go through each day.
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| Posted on 2012-04-29 09:18:11 AM |
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hacks suck
hack reviews moreso
this isn't needed any more
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| Posted on 2012-04-29 09:24:00 AM |
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Don't do that. -_-
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| Posted on 2012-04-29 09:26:12 AM |
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thanks to chester we can post here now. yay
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| Posted on 2012-08-28 12:39:57 PM |
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Thank god for this post! Maybe people will actually think before they review a hack!!
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| Posted on 2012-11-08 01:43:10 PM |
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Not to be a tattle tale or anything, but a while ago I did see a... unpleasing review. I don't think the hack is bad, but apparently, I think that he hated it.  Here it is.
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| Posted on 2012-11-08 01:46:48 PM |
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QUALITY IS SUBJECTIVE, RACOONHAT!
Seriously, it's a person's opinion. He can say whatever he wants.
Not to mention that that review was posted over a year ago and the poster is inactive...
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| Posted on 2012-11-08 02:00:11 PM |
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That, and it looks like he did put actual effort into the review. Not as much as others, but enough that it looked like he really played the hack.
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| Posted on 2012-11-08 07:33:16 PM |
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Originally posted by EgaddSeriously, it's a person's opinion. He can say whatever he wants.
Originally posted by Racoonhat09I think he hated it.
I just thought that he was just making the creator upset about his hack. It kind of made me a bit upset the first time I read that when I was 11. 
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| Posted on 2012-11-09 11:42:38 AM |
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Far as I know, the hack creator wasn't upset about it. The only one who seems kinda bothered about it was you. And it wasn't particularly mean, either (though it could have been improved in that regard).
- BlackMageMario
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| Posted on 2012-11-09 01:49:22 PM |
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He still came off as a huge dick though. What surprises me is the poor taste he has since I played the hack and palettes, levels, etc. were really interesting, but he insisted the hack was absolute garbage when the effort is all over the place. I can't think of a hack that would be considered "good" for him, and the phrase "I doubt this hack took you 2 years to make, a piece of garbage like this wouldn't take me 2 days to make" was extremely asshole-ish.
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| Posted on 2012-11-09 03:40:03 PM |
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Originally posted by MaxodeXHe still came off as a huge dick though. What surprises me is the poor taste he has since I played the hack and palettes, levels, etc. were really interesting, but he insisted the hack was absolute garbage when the effort is all over the place. I can't think of a hack that would be considered "good" for him, and the phrase "I doubt this hack took you 2 years to make, a piece of garbage like this wouldn't take me 2 days to make" was extremely asshole-ish.
Still though, it's still subjective. Even though he was a bit of a dick, it still is his opinion.
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 08:40:07 AM |
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Here's how I see this issue:
It's possible to dislike a hack and give it a low score without boasting that your own skills are better or resorting to insulting the author of the hack you're reviewing. If you have to resort to trolling/flaming in your review to get your point across, you're doing it wrong, your point is undermined, if not invalidated, by your LEL SO EDGY XD attitude, and oh look at the first rule of SMWC.
Now, I'm going to play review inception on this. You know... for, um, science. >_>
Originally posted by FlazeThis hack is a very bad edit of the original, mostly just recolours + bad level designs. almost every level i played looked like levels from the original with small changes to them, it looked more like you were building sculptures than actual levels, I doubt this hack took you 2 years to make, a piece of garbage like this wouldn't take me 2 days to make. Whoa. The only thing of value in this opening paragraph is "almost every level i played looked like levels from the original with small changes to them, it looked more like you were building sculptures than actual levels" because it pinpoints flaws in the stage design. He states that seemingly more effort went into decoration than fun levels and that levels were based on the originals. He definitely could've done without the smugness at the end.
Originally posted by FlazeOverworld: 3/10 - Where did the bridge go that connects Yoshi's Island to Donut Land? You should've just kept the original overworld, it wouldn't have made much of a difference anyway. Hmm.. okay. He points out an oversight and suggests that the overworld doesn't look terribly different from the original.
Originally posted by FlazeLevel design: 1/10 - Terrible recolours, no new tilesets, no creativity at all. The reviewer did not explain what made the palettes so bad nor give an example. Was it bad contrast between FG and BG tiles that made them undiscernable? Did the palette edits mess up the shading? Was it too bright? Did the hacker pick seemingly random clashing colors? The reviewer previously mentioned levels that were edits of the original stages. The screenshots are telling me another side of the story where I do see the hackers' own designs rather than the original SMW design, so flat-out stating "no creativity at all" with nothing to back it is completely lost on me. What was so bad, in his opinion, about the original content, rather than the SMW fragments?
Okay, so, ctrl+shift+del, yadayada. But, people need to know what they're doing wrong from there. This is how we grow as hackers, with feedback on the stuff we produce ourselves and the manner in which we use our resources.
(I'm going to completely disregard the complaint about a lack of ExGFX because while I don't give a flying fuck about whether a hack uses ExGFX, I get why others do.)
Originally posted by FlazeGameplay: 2/10 - Levels were too long and not interesting enough, I didn't enjoy playing this hack at all. Okay, so the levels were long, but can you describe why the levels overstayed their welcome besides the leftover SMW fragments you go on about? Were they flat, or empty, or repetitive, or did they rely on cookie-cutter gimmicks?
Originally posted by FlazeOverall: 2/10 - If you're going to create something worthy of displaying on SMW Central, please don't take the original and do tiny edits to it, make something that's worthy of downloading.. W-what? That's it?!
The only things he draws attention to are that the overworld and the (long) levels are somewhat based on the original SMW designs, the fact that palettes are changed, but he fails to go into any depth about most of the stuff he slams. Furthermore, a review of this caliber could be copied and pasted onto virtually any vanilla hack with a slightly edited overworld and seem legit to someone who hasn't played it, so I can't tell if this guy really played the hack.
Presume I am someone looking for a strong second opinion on whether or not this hack is worth my time and I read this, I am still clueless as to how this hack plays out since just because even edits of the original levels can play out millions of different ways. I don't know how the level design is apart from expecting to see some bits of SMW stages in there, but at least I can safely assume that the levels are lengthy, right? I'm going to read what the next guy has to say because there's simply not enough to go on here.
Presume I am one of the hack authors. I feel.. somewhat discouraged, because this guy isn't giving me enough constructive criticism, and he's saying he can do better than me. Well, if he can, then can't he also give me some pointers? This just looks like "waah, waah, waah, I don't like your hack. Or maybe I have a problem with you."
Conclusion: this is a rather lazy, somewhat redundant, and almost substanceless review with some wanton aggression. It's not completely worthless, seeing how there are a few points which, if honestly relevant to the hack, are valid, but it's only getting its toes wet in detail. Sure, it may be his opinion... but it's not well-formed.
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 03:44:35 PM |
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Originally posted by EgaddStill though, it's still subjective. Even though he was a bit of a dick, it still is his opinion.
Just because "something may be your opinion" doesn't mean that you are immune to scrutiny if you can't properly support your stance or if you're tactless about it.
"It's just <pronoun> opinion!" is not a Get-Out clause.
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 04:41:07 PM |
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Originally posted by MrDeePayOriginally posted by EgaddStill though, it's still subjective. Even though he was a bit of a dick, it still is his opinion.
Just because "something may be your opinion" doesn't mean that you are immune to scrutiny if you can't properly support your stance or if you're tactless about it.
"It's just <pronoun> opinion!" is not a Get-Out clause.
And that's your opinion.
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 05:09:21 PM |
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Originally posted by AtmaAnd that's your opinion.
And that's your opinion.
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 05:21:19 PM |
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Originally posted by LightvayneOriginally posted by AtmaAnd that's your opinion.
And that's your opinion.
And that's your opinion that it's my opinion that's it's his opinion!
BOOYAH!
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 05:29:09 PM |
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That feeling when atma only came on here because MDP posted.
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 05:31:12 PM |
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oh you, (☞ﾟヮﾟ)☞
Anyways, its disrespectful for someone to be a dick to another user whether its his opinion or not. It even breaks the first rule of this site as already pointed out, so I'm not understanding what the issue is here.
That feeling Derpy posted only to start stuff
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| Posted on 2012-11-11 06:28:52 PM |
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Originally posted by Derpy BackslideThat feeling when atma only came on here because MDP posted.
And you potentiating "that feeling" by pointing out something that is probably not true definitely makes things/you look better.
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