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| Posted on 2008-07-12 06:38:14 AM |
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Lately, more and more ideas went through my head and now I came to the conclusion of sharing this idea with you, seeing if this could work out in any way.
The idea is following: The whole SMWCentral (yes, everyone) could work together on a huge SMW hack, everyone could contribute as much as he/she want, let it be either levels, ExGFX, custom music or even ASM. What I basically want to reach with this is project is a huge team of hackers, who have fun at modifying "Super Mario World"s levels and engine. We could create a hack of seismic proportions, with all knowledge and creativity of us.
On the first sight, this may sound like a big joke but I'm serious, I want to see how well you can work together and I'm sure, many of us will have much fun at it.
I'm the one who's mainly organizing all this stuff but it would be much easier if more trustworthy people would sign up as extra leaders because the work alone as leader on a big hack would be a pain in ass, I'm sure many of you will agree.
As I said, everyone can sign up and contribute as much as he want. However, this doesn't mean that you can come and provide crap like glitched levels, 3-up moon filled bonus rooms and whatnot. I'm completely serious about this and if I will find anybody who's doing this, gets a 24h ban stamped in his/her face so don't even dare!
I think we should collect some ideas first before we get onto the hack, maybe just some preparations like custom music INITing, maybe HDMA with d4's kit and patching some important patches like the "FastROM" or "FadeFix" patch.
So yeah... within this said, flood this thread with creative ideas and let me know your own thoughts about this topic. ^_^
Here starts the reborn of SMWCP!
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| Last edited on 2008-11-03 02:51:28 PM by Buu. |
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 06:43:58 AM |
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One problem: The FastROM patch and the Fadefix patch don't work together 100% fully, due to the fact that if you kill an enemy with the fireball launched by Fire Mario, everything freezes, excluding music.
Edit: If you need some of my ExGFX for this supreme hack, then you can download them, as long as you credit me for them.
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| Last edited on 2008-07-12 06:45:20 AM by Ripperon-X. |
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 06:45:22 AM |
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They both work on my rom, I have even custom music in it. 
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 06:46:04 AM |
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I'd love to contribute! I can do some levels, ExGFX and maybe the OW. This sure will be very hard to organize, but I hope we'll manage that. I'm not that good at organizing, but I could help with some stuff if you want me to.
Maybe we should agree on some points at first:
- Custom Music?
- SMW Redrawn as a base?
- HDMA?
- Story?
- etc.
The most difficult thing would be the Map16 IMO. If everyone uses different ExGFX and custom Map16 tiles, it would be nearly impossible to organize. Also, should everyone work on the same ROM, or should we do single levels / OW / etc. and send it to you?
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 06:48:18 AM |
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Yeah, the Map16 thing may be hard but somehow I'll manage it.
About the story, style etc: I want to talk about this here aswell, we should all agree on one thing not that it will collapse in the end.
We will judge on it if the first ideas are in here. ;)
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 06:54:58 AM |
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I *might* join you (when I stop being lazy). I'll do some ASM related stuff.
(And perhaps add the fullscreen intro)
I also suggest that we should use Romi's addmusic if we ever are going to use custom music.
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| Last edited on 2008-07-12 06:59:42 AM by Ersanio. |
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 07:48:01 AM |
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I can be a level designer, as I'm kind of stuck on an issue with my hack, and TLMB is trying to implement some new stuff in his team hack, so I have lots of free time. I'm sure that most people who've seen my videos would agree that my level design is good (and has been for the past 2 years). I can do levels of any variety (not great at working layer 2 though), and difficulty.
A few suggestions:
-Make/Use ExGFX that don't use Map16 so that we can have more Map16 space. Example
-Decide what style of ExGFX we want, cartoony, realistic, classic...
-Nominate some custom songs and decide whether we are going to use Addmusic 4.0 or not. There may be some complications with using 4.0, such as it not translated yet. Romi's addmusic seems like a good alternative, but I don't know how well it works yet.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 10:29:51 AM |
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Feh... you guys have never seen any of my hacking skills, mainly because I have none, but I guess I could design a level or two...
Also, I hope we can get FPI to join 
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| Last edited on 2008-07-12 10:30:13 AM by An00bis. |
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 10:39:32 AM |
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I can design levels and the overworld. I've had ideas for levels a while back, but I haven't used them.
EDIT: Are there positions for level design/overworld? I'll join one of them.
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| Last edited on 2008-07-12 11:35:08 AM by SyStemkraSh. |
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 10:43:20 AM |
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Can I be level designer? I can make a few levels in this hack. This sounds like a good idea, heh, this thing kind of reminds me of Tower of Spatula on Board 2.
But seriously now, this would still be a team hack, and... well, you know how team hacks usually turn out. Then again, I'm level designer in another team hack. I can tell you, Map16 work is the hardest part. If you have to even make the slightest Map16 edit, you're going to have to tell the whole team. Now, someone could write over your edit or forget to include the edit while transferring levels to another ROM, thus causing both glitches in your level, and confusion throughout the entire team.
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| Last edited on 2008-07-12 10:47:04 AM by Suns. |
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 10:43:24 AM |
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Hey, this is something like board 2's Tower of Spatula SMW hack. I may design a level or 2 if I get some time.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 11:12:26 AM |
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If the organisation is good it could become one of the best hacks ever.
Holidays starting in one and a half week, so I have time and can do some levels.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 12:05:18 PM |
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This is a good, but fairly complicated idea. This would probably make the best hack to date. Everyone would be appy cause they may have a little part in building the hack. Yay.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 12:16:07 PM |
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There's actually a similar concept in the Doom community called "Community Chest"
It's a 32 level megawad, with each level made by a forum member, that are compiled into one uber megawad.
Perhaps we split into varied teams, with a moderator leading each team in specific worlds. There's 28 mods, so we can make 12 worlds, with 2 mods leading each world, and we have a team of volunteers that can choose which world to work on.
It's a good damned idea. I'm down for level design
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 12:33:40 PM |
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can i do the level desiger?
i believe that if i leave the best of me, i can mace a one of the best levels(the thing that i didn't).
even with the graphics i'm good, just that i did the worse of me so far(I hope of be modestly).
anyway i suggest an idea of the story: not always Bowser that kidnaps always the princess Toadstoll and the 7 eggs. is boring. We need of a new evil.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 01:01:47 PM |
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Sign me up for levels and OW. I may also contribute some simple ASM hacks.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 01:03:16 PM |
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Wow, I never thought that so much people will agree.
Yeah, Map16 will probably be the hardest part but nothing is impossible, we'll find a way around it.
@Ersan: Yeah, the Intro Adder would be really cool as we could perhaps could add the "SMWCentral" logo if Boom/Smalls allows it.
@Lucas: Romi's Addmusic would be the best option since I use it myself and it's damned easy to use and works out very well without any problems.
@An00bis: Don't worry, everyone has a skill in SMW Hacking, surely you will find it too and just designing for fun counts aswell, not? 
@uNkNowN5642: Positions are all free for now, we should at first think of the style we're using and maybe just offer some rough ideas about story, overworld parts etc. I myself would like to use the standart SMW style, similar to FPI seeing how nice it turned out in the end.
@Sunnysunnysuns: Sure, it may be a horrible mess of work but if we keep everything organized enough, we will succeed, just don't give up. Most Team Hacks get cancelled because they're not organized enough, including my old one where I wasn't that good but by now, I have some knowledge and perhaps with some other leaders, it will turn out somehow/somewhen, whatever... xD
@Delmaru: Now where you mention it, I totally forgot about "Tower of Spatula", ours works similar to their system but in this, basically the "whole" central is involved, everybody can be part of the team. And some levels from you would be nice. ;)
@RealLink: Nice that you have holiday soon, you could maybe build some levels for fun and then show us later what turned out so we have a bit of "overview" of your skills and may inspire us too.
@UltiMario: Ya, it may be a great hack, all we need is just some ASM hackers to spice this hack up with neat effects and sprites.
@Sagittaire: Sounds like an interesting idea, splitting everything up into more sections. But for this we would need more leaders where we can take up contact with each other so we know about huge changes of the hack.
@Dinomar: Of course you can be level designer! Also about the story, this generic "Peach capture" thing is really overused, we need something original. Give me a few suggestions, get creative!
@Bombette: Alright, that would be nice. I know of your great level design and your ASM knowledge and you could contribute some kickass things. :3
Also, little notice BTW: Connect on "irc.badnik.net" to #sunrise where we can talk about the hack without flooding #smwcentral or other channels with our content, it could be basically our own "Team Hack" chat.
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| Last edited on 2008-07-12 01:04:18 PM by Buu. |
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 01:13:12 PM |
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I'm in for making a level or two.
Any way. The simplest thing would be if we made all levels in SMWs tile sets then after all levels are done a few people sellects music and ExGFX for the levels made. It's easier that way if you ask me.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 02:12:07 PM |
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Yeah, I can make some levels.
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| Posted on 2008-07-12 03:09:44 PM |
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Originally posted by HyperBuuI'm the one who's mainly organizing all this stuff but it would be much easier if more trustworthy people would sign up as extra leaders because the work alone as leader on a big hack would be a pain in ass, I'm sure many of you will agree.
Considering that no one else has signed up for this yet (unless I overlooked something), I'll also sign up to be one of the leaders. :o
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