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Mosts 2017 - Results!

Originally posted by Aeon
Unrelated, but category 40 was the best thing this year lol.

#wario{;)}
I was going to post about whatever happened with a parody of me saying the same thing but in reverse... but nevermind I guess. Thanks for the few votes. Didn't win anything, but oh well.
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Originally posted by K3fka
Am I gonna get BANNED the next time I say "fuk u" to one of my friends here or what lmao

tbh i would ban you for anything onii-fam
Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
I was going to post about whatever happened with a parody of me saying the same thing but in reverse...


HackPortsASM"Uploader"

>leod says get fucked
>people reply negatively
>
>warning threats

I wouldn't have posted had the staff avoided threatening a warning, but this is just absurd in every sense of the word. leod is the one who initially said "get fucked" and I don't suppose you blame the nearly 2 pages worth of people posting? People piling on leod and the overall commotion was unnecessary but they're individuals with opinions that are being silenced by that warning right now. All they did is respond to leod's "get fucked", and, as others have mentioned, he has a less-than-stunning reputation. Between the sarcasm and rhetorically calling me stupid ("Taking who posts things into account when moderating I guess could be misonstrued as "bias" if you absolutely have never heard of the concept of consequences or context, but... we're smarter than that, right?"), this wouldn't be the first time leod has done this, and he's about to get off scot-free again. And when he is the one who caused the root of the problem, the users are the ones being punished for it! When he could have deescalated the situation himself, all he did was post a Pepe meme. This is beyond petty drama or derailing now (which leod has never had a problem with doing, let alone while double posting); this is people speaking out just to be censored.

One more thing is that I'm not liking people speaking for me. The most banter I've done is urmom jokes, numerous castration jokes, and a few one-liners. But I've never told someone to get fucked or similar; and when someone has insulted me, I respond with a joke or a meme since a few years on the internet makes you desensitized from insults. But I can show you a few quotes proving there are often double-meanings and malice behind what he says.

Originally posted by leod (to Mathos)
You may want to read up on staff threads that happened before your promotion regarding his leadership style, there are more than enough reasons for what's happening here, it literally just being fact notwithstanding.

Originally posted by leod (to Mathos)
Shouldn't be hard to figure out, that one.

taken from here (scroll to the bottom of his post)

Originally posted by leod (to Koopster)
And again, Ladida's ban (which I'm guessing is the cause of this anyway) is still a really shitty vehicle for this whole argument.

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Originally posted by leod (to Drex)
Also, glad that you ignored everything else I said and then still managed to miss with the one point you replied to. Solid argumentation.

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All I can say is that the "lol it was a joke/sarcasm" thing sometimes becomes extremely impartial to the point to people questioning about some staff members behavior (this is not the first time it happens and I'm sure it won't be the last)
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again, i want to remind people that we have a staff feedback option, and i highly suggest people use it when they find issues with staff rather than derailing threads this hard for this long. i promise we look into everything, and it's a lot better than derailing a thread for this long when this is just supposed to be a fun results post.

i think staff (me semi-included, truth be told i just haven't really looked at this thread the past few days) didn't take this issue seriously when we clearly should have. sorry about that. just reiterating you can use the staff feedback if you have issues, or if you don't care about anonymity you're always free to pm one of the userbase admins and let us know what the fuck

so yeah, i understand people will have more to say on this issue, and i'm not gonna threaten to warn people if they continue, i'm just reminding you guys there's a better way to react to staff fuck ups that can resolve in things being addressed sooner without completely engulfing what was a normally fine thread before.

basically, staff feedback
its too bad i didnt win for best layout, but i understand, not everybody likes pink! :( ... #w{xD}
ask me if i give a f*ck...
Originally posted by idol
basically, staff feedback

idol, i love you, you're my jigar, my bae, my homie (ride together die together) and everything kiss kiss mwah mwah
but staff feedback isn't going to magically fix everything if you and maybe like the podcast crew are the only ones who actually listen to it

Also ya, imo Eevee's warning is something a quick thread split (to separate the "get fucked" drama and to trash it) could solve maybe rather than just outright punishing people with warnings. then again, >kieran (Alcaro only just got coder status so im not blaming he)

I thought the drama was really fucking dum, y'all could just be coding or drawing or composing or making levels instead of complaining about a bad shitpost that no one got hurt over but still
Sorry for derailing this further, just wanted to put that out there, how bout dem salt



Originally posted by Hobz
its too bad i didnt win for best layout, but i understand, not everybody likes pink! :( ... #w{xD}

More like NOBODY LIKES U 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 get owned hobz (more like nerdz)
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At the risk of getting in trouble I just want to say that Pat, you gave zero indication of actually being upset by leod's post. I don't want to victim blame here, but when you reply with a meme in the same joking tone as what leod used, it really makes it seem like you're ok with it even though apparently you weren't.
Originally posted by lion
but staff feedback isn't going to magically fix everything if you and maybe like the podcast crew are the only ones who actually listen to it

im not sure if its the results of eons of past admin teams doing jack shit about staff feedbacks or what thats drilled into folks heads that staff feedback is useless, but theyre taken seriously and we talk to folks who are complained about in them, and we will take bigger action if necessary
DAmn I wasn't expecting to get a trophy in best musician, I thought I saw some people getting more votes than I did. Sustos que dan gusto

Thanks for all the votes guys #w{<3}


also lol what is going on, too much to read
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Originally posted by MaxodeX
also lol what is going on, too much to read

SMWC being SMWC, just ignore it

Also you're a cutie and everyone who got trophies in best musician deserved it <3

(wish tcdw tied with you at least so he got a trophy too lol)

Originally posted by idol
im not sure if its the results of eons of past admin teams doing jack shit about staff feedbacks or what thats drilled into folks heads that staff feedback is useless

it's most likely that yes lmao

ilu idol, you're the best SNN follow-up we could ever ask for /asskissing
HackPortsASM"Uploader"

I'm actually glad we actually managed to have our fair share of absolutely unnecessary mosts drama this year too, as per tradition; we almost didn't have it, but in the end, it turned out the Good Customs are still given their deserved respect. All is as it should be and the world is at balance 😌.

also shout outs to hobz for pulling the biggest ruse of 2017 #smrpg{y}

Originally posted by K3fka
At the risk of getting in trouble I just want to say that Pat, you gave zero indication of actually being upset by leod's post. I don't want to victim blame here, but when you reply with a meme in the same joking tone as what leod used, it really makes it seem like you're ok with it even though apparently you weren't.

There was nothing to indicate as I was not moved or offended by the post. Regarding leod's original post, I only pointed out why it caused this much drama, and why it was inappropriate and intentional, regardless of it not offending me. It was only when the drama stirred up and led to the warning threats when I had to step forward and point out what I did. Generally everyone speaking for me, the warnings; they wouldn't believe anyone else that wasn't the "victim," really.

Someone also asked me about this in DMs on Discord, to which I replied:

Originally posted by me
I generally keep my composure with humor so I don't go into some sort of emotionally charged argument

I also said in my most recent post on this thread:

Originally posted by me
when someone has insulted me, I respond with a joke or a meme since a few years on the internet makes you desensitized from insults.

Basically, there was nothing I was upset about; if there was, the first quote would have applied more accurately. In this case, the second quote applies more since I've heard "get fucked" among worse on my many years on the internet. But whether I thought nothing of it or seemingly did, others did see a problem in it and reacted the way they did, but they never considered what I thought of the post. For example, I'm not entirely sure how serious Hobz's post was, but what is guaranteed here is that he never makes mention of what I think or my opinions; he made his own conclusion based on the post. There was also Zekrom's post which only mentioned my meme response rather than how I was affected. Really nobody considered my emotions, if you look back.

Thank you for pointing this out, though; I wouldn't have the chance to clarify this without it seeming irrelevant or random otherwise.
Originally posted by lion
More like NOBODY LIKES U
#fim{=_=}


all i can say about all this is that if people read my post and thought it was serious, that probably says a lot about the situation.

though i cant tell if its people with a pre-existing bias against leod allowing it to be real so they can use it as a jumping off point, or if its impartial people that think it makes a lot of sense.


#smrpg{y}
ask me if i give a f*ck...
Originally posted by lion
Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
I was going to post about whatever happened with a parody of me saying the same thing but in reverse...




(To be fair, I did word it very badly. Rip.)
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I was trying to make a joke and thought that Pat would be into it, but evidently that didn't go over super well. Sorry to everyone I upset by making myself look like The Big Fool there!
To clear some stuff up, my original response to the whole thing was just pepehands because Pat's response to me looked like he got the joke and was rolling with it what with the meme image, so I figured that the people who mistook my post as any sort of serious would realize that it wasn't supposed to be, but I guess that wasn't right either and the reason people were upset about it was because Pat actually WASN'T into it and he talked about it with them. Which means it wasn't "haha look at all these people not understanding the banter Pat and I got going here", but rather "I completely missed that these people know what Pat actually thought".


Also just in case anyone is wondering about this (and I can already see the conspiracies being written up), as usual I had nothing to do with the discussion being forced down and warnings being threatened.
From what I can tell the reason this happened is because literally everyone that isn't a close(ish) friend of Pat's image response meant that he understood the joke and was fine with it, and that everyone else was overreacting to banter; basically what K3fka was thinking.
I say "as usual" because I feel like y'all are well aware that I keep discussions going for way too long myself way too often.


Also also in case that wasn't quite clear enough from Hobz' post there, he was kidding entirely and trying to make fun of the people who actually think that way (the last paragraph in his post about me mentioning the gf was supposed to make it clearer that it's a joke).
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Reading all of it now and especially Hobz's post, mentioning the gf part actually made it look even more serious to me tbh #ab{<_<} not that it should've escalated so quickly anyway.

o well
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There was a point that you missed, one you got wrong, and one major point you avoided altogether.

Originally posted by leod
the reason people were upset about it was because Pat actually WASN'T into it and he talked about it with them

Originally posted by leod
literally everyone that isn't a close(ish) friend of Pat's image response meant that he understood the joke and was fine with it, and that everyone else was overreacting to banter

I already clarified that the people who posted in response to you disregarded how I felt about it entirely; there was no single mention of it. Even my closer friends showed no bias in my favor when they reacted to the original post. Others only assumed that it was banter and that your post was a joke, but I also pointed out that it's more than likely that it was intended to throw shade. And since my second reply to you, none of these said people from beforehand have given their opinion on the matter of whether it was a joke or not, with my argument and points in mind. This was never about the post itself; it was the principle of you being able to do this as much as you please.

What you got wrong is that I "wasn't into it." Earlier someone else asked me about the situation: my thoughts, what I felt, and to clarify. Part of my response was as follows:

Originally posted by me
I'll be straight: I couldn't care less about leod's insults (I've received far worse from other parts of the internet) but I care more about his attitude towards not only me but towards other people. I've provided plenty of quotes/links in my posts to show this, and skimming through his post history likely will show this as well.

Which brings me to my final point. What you evaded entirely was with the quotes I threw out; they took up half the size of my post; you can't say that it's a negligible point that can just be ignored. I welcome an argument saying it's invalid, but ignoring it in its entirety is intolerable. Regardless of whether the ones you were arguing with were right or wrong (going into detail for those stories would derail a derailment) the remarks you made (not exclusively "get fucked") were uncalled for, with "shitty vehicle" and the sarcastic "solid argumentation" being some of the phrasing you used. You ignored this completely, and never addressed how credible your "it's just a joke" claim is. If I should quote you one last time, I would use this one:

Originally posted by leod
Because posts are made by people, with history on the site, with context. Posts aren't placed on the site by anonymous blobs, we should and do not look at them in a vaccuum.
This isn't called "bias", this is called "moderation".