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That's because I was trying to respond to the situation, not to specific people, because I'm not supposed to make this conversation last even longer than it already has.
But if you insist, I'll try.


Originally posted by ThePat545
Others only assumed that it was banter and that your post was a joke, but I also pointed out that it's more than likely that it was intended to throw shade.

It wasn't. I tried to make my post ooze with as much non-seriousness as I could with that silly parody pre-amble for a reason!

Originally posted by ThePat545
And since my second reply to you, none of these said people from beforehand have given their opinion on the matter of whether it was a joke or not, with my argument and points in mind.

I don't know which people you mean here (the people who were upset or the people who thought that you caught the joke), but if it's the latter, then, well, I know for a fact that most of those people knew it was a joke and thought that you were rolling with it because they said so outside of this thread. As I was explaining there, the warnings were being threatened because looking at your response, it was agreed that the joke was fine since the recipient (you) didn't take offense to it and instead played along with it (only seemingly?) and as such all those other people really have no reason to be so mad about something that is harmless and doesn't concern them.
Because as K3fka said, there's no reason people should be flipping out about banter.
From what I can tell the issue came from those people closer to you knowing that you weren't actually terribly fine with it, despite the way you responded. Which lead to that split of people who know you being upset and people who don't know you as much seeing nothing more than banter and people unjustifiedly exploding at it, when in reality that wasn't the case (I think... I'm still not too clear about your stance on that).


Originally posted by ThePat545
This was never about the post itself; it was the principle of you being able to do this as much as you please.

Do what, (try to) make jokes? Admittedly this one fell on its face hella hard, but it's kind of not true that I would get away with more than anyone else in that regard.
I mean just look at Torchkas' post, she's one person who everyone and their mom know hates my ass, like my entire ass, with a vengeance and she just made a silly joke about the same topic and nobody thinks twice about it because it's just that, even if you could interpret that as an actual call to violence if you REALLY tried to skew your perspective enough.
I just failed in making my joke as obvious as hers is!


Originally posted by ThePat545
What you got wrong is that I "wasn't into it." Earlier someone else asked me about the situation: my thoughts, what I felt, and to clarify. Part of my response was as follows:
[...]

Yeah but this still assumes that it wasn't always supposed to be a joke... if my post were actually serious or hard to decipher as a joke, I'd probably literally be demoted right now because there's already been plenty of talks about this topic in particular, but as I explained above, pretty much everyone that doesn't know you personally and knew what you ACTUALLY thought about it could tell that it was a joke right off the bat, so it's more a case of "leod your joke was bad because it looks super harsh and cocky to people who aren't aware, which is a bad image" rather than "leod stop being a fuckboy".


Originally posted by ThePat545
Which brings me to my final point. What you evaded entirely was with the quotes I threw out; they took up half the size of my post; you can't say that it's a negligible point that can just be ignored. I welcome an argument saying it's invalid, but ignoring it in its entirety is intolerable.

I didn't ignore that point any more than any other points you or anyone else made, my post was 100% just there to explain the situation to hopefully help people understand that it was a joke that GONE WRONG and was followed by a bundle of misunderstandings (eg. the rest of staff misunderstanding your reaction to it), rather than anything actually intended to be insulting.


Originally posted by ThePat545
(not exclusively "get fucked")

Not a really great excuse, but my thought process behind using that phrase in particular was that I've actually 100% legitimately not once ever seen it used in a serious context. As silly as this might sound, that phrase was registered in my head as a completely sarcastic one that nobody could ever mistake for an actual insult.
I've only ever seen and used it myself in the context of, like, beating friends in a game or just making fun of something silly that happened ("haha that guy headshot you across the map, get fucked lmao"), so if that's actually like a heavy phrase then that one's entirely on me.
I guess it's -sort of- a language barrier thing, but I don't really wanna pull that card cause I think I've been fluent enough for a while. More like a cultural barrier, cause we have no equivalent to that phrase here.


On the other hand:
Originally posted by ThePat545
"shitty vehicle" and the sarcastic "solid argumentation"

"Shitty vehicle" is not even an insult to any person and if "solid argumentation" is actually bad enough of a sarcastic remark to be worth mentioning then I guess that's too bad, because I honestly absolutely cannot see eye to eye with you on that one.
You would've literally died if you had experienced SNN as an admin if the tiniest little snip that that is is an offense on the level of having to be written down and remembered.


Originally posted by ThePat545
never addressed how credible your "it's just a joke" claim is.

I feel like my explanation of "the entirety of staff thought it's a joke and that's why the warnings thing happened", as well as just the amount of posts right in this thread calling out that people are getting mad at a joke/"funpost", as well as K3fka's entire argument is enough to conclude that this does not need written proof.
Not that I could really give any, because again, when I wrote that reply I tried my hardest to make it as obvious as I could that that reads like a joke, with the whole generic oscar-esque podium speech, lack of punctuation throughout, all-caps and the overt narcissism.

I don't mean this to be like a "wow how didn't you catch that!!" dig because you're obviously not the only one who didn't catch on immediately, but that was my intention despite it falling right flat.
As Hobz hinted at, I didn't really realize how close that caricature came to the image some people actually have of me, just as I guess Hobz didn't realize how close his caricature of a response came to the actual feelings some people have (like the people who agreed with it in this thread).




I hope those responses are good enough for now, because I'm not sure how happy FP and Eevee are gonna be with me for continuing the discussion despite having been told to stop twice #ab{>_>}
Originally posted by MaxodeX
DAmn I wasn't expecting to get a trophy in best musician, I thought I saw some people getting more votes than I did. Sustos que dan gusto


But Pinci got more votes than you, so you should feel bad :P
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Originally posted by leod
Yeah but this still assumes that it wasn't always supposed to be a joke... if my post were actually serious or hard to decipher as a joke, I'd probably literally be demoted
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"Shitty vehicle" is not even an insult to any person and if "solid argumentation" is actually bad enough of a sarcastic remark to be worth mentioning then I guess that's too bad, because I honestly absolutely cannot see eye to eye with you on that one.
You would've literally died if you had experienced SNN as an admin if the tiniest little snip that that is is an offense on the level of having to be written down and remembered.
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Do what, (try to) make jokes? Admittedly this one fell on its face hella hard, but it's kind of not true that I would get away with more than anyone else in that regard.

Those were small snippets of quotes that subtly displayed your use of sarcasm and double-meanings; merely quotes I didn't want to fully repeat for the sake of it not being redundant. But I will explain one of these quotes then leave it to you and others to look for context in the other ones.

Originally posted by leod
Also, glad that you ignored everything else I said and then still managed to miss with the one point you replied to. Solid argumentation.

It wasn't the "solid argumentation" phrase itself that matters, it's the context (that you once again disregarded). You sarcastically insulted someone's logic in a demeaning way, and it's how you presented it that makes it worth remembering. On the subject of things worth remembering, Drex had actually corrected you after your post containing the rude remark, further proving that the sarcasm was just uncalled for when you were the one who's wrong.

Originally posted by leod
I'm not even sure why you're pretending like anyone claimed that effect to be incredibly resource intensive.

Originally posted by leod
That star shows you how much of the SA-1's processing power is used per frame. As you can see it never even reaches the halfway point, mostly bouncing around in the lower third of the screen.

Originally posted by Drex
It looks like it's the other way around, because the star is lower when more enemies are onscreen

Originally posted by leod
You seem to be right about this one, and now I'm actually not sure which meter this is because the usual processing meter has 2 stars, one for the SNES cpu and one for the SA-1, but this is just a single star.

I guess you can agree that when context is involved, this is more than just "the tiniest little snip." And there is definitely context for really any other of the examples if you want to click the links in my earlier post, too. I don't doubt that everyone else reading or replying to this thread is smart enough to do the same and reach their own conclusion on whether you are rude or not. With all things considered it's not unreasonable to assume you're capable of saying things with double-meanings, especially when you have displayed usage of sarcasm with double-meanings.

Originally posted by leod
As I was explaining there, the warnings were being threatened because looking at your response, it was agreed that the joke was fine since the recipient (you) didn't take offense to it and instead played along with it (only seemingly?) and as such all those other people really have no reason to be so mad about something that is harmless and doesn't concern them.

Originally posted by leod
I hope those responses are good enough for now, because I'm not sure how happy FP and Eevee are gonna be with me for continuing the discussion despite having been told to stop twice

Whether it was a joke or not (more likely not), and whether I was offended or not (most certainly not), the "get fucked" portion was unneeded; and whether or not it was a joke I've already established multiple times that nobody cared about me being offended or not. I can't stress the fact enough that the "offended" argument was only a point that was brought up by those who thought your post was a joke. I also already pointed out in my second reply why the warning threats were unjustified. Soon after, they were thankfully overturned by idol.

Originally posted by leod
I feel like my explanation of "the entirety of staff thought it's a joke and that's why the warnings thing happened", as well as just the amount of posts right in this thread calling out that people are getting mad at a joke/"funpost", as well as K3fka's entire argument is enough to conclude that this does not need written proof.

I repeat: the warnings were soon repealed, and others have told me in DMs that not many staff members were involved with the decision. I assume it's better to keep them anonymous unless they prefer me to say (if it's not obvious, that is), but I can verify it if need be. As for the others and K3fka's argument (I've said this a few times too many by now):

Originally posted by me
whether or not it was a joke I've already established multiple times that nobody cared about me being offended or not. I can't stress the fact enough that the "offended" argument was only a point that was brought up by those who thought your post was a joke.

Also, being that it was your post that started the situation, the least you can do is to take the responsibility of verifying your claim that it was just a joke.

Originally posted by leod
trying to make fun of the people who actually think that way
I never set out to make fun of anybody because I'm not a bully. It was just a general joke that was pulled on anybody that fell for it #smrpg{haha}


(also what the heck the giveaway line was supposed to be holding the entire staff team accountable for it. on what planet is jokingly tossing an f bomb abhorrent behaviour? smh y'all just love drama too much to think rationally about this stuff)

did you see my profile picture yet? check it out

its like im at weenie hut jr's
My goodness, how much I've read!

W/e, let's acknowledge leod's banter a joke and leave this subject alone, k?
Insert some pun here
Considering this thread will likely close from around December 31st to very early January as mosts results threads always have been; and more importantly, because Christmas is coming in less than 2 days, I would much prefer this situation to be concluded soon, leod. I've already clarified that you're in the clear regarding the warning threats by reminding you that idol already nullified that.

I'll also make one last clarification before I regret not doing so: the original "get fucked" post is only a portion of what I am arguing about, which is evident from my most recent post.

With that, I will patiently await your response.
Another friendly reminder that this is the results thread not endless argument thread.

If you guys really have to continue this argument in public, open a general discussion thread or something, as long as its not going to just be a back and fourth ranting war.


Also regarding staff feedback: We've discussed most staff feedback in the past, any feedback you send now will also be put under consideration, even if it brings old discussions back under a new light.

Originally posted by ThePat545
I would much prefer this situation to be concluded soon, leod.

I thought it was. What else does he have to say about this topic

did you see my profile picture yet? check it out

Originally posted by Impetus
If you guys really have to continue this argument in public

They really shouldn't continue this in public.
since VLDCX Judges isn't a user capable of receiving and showing off trophies, I'll happily take the trophy for most likely hero and villain in its place
♪♫♩♬
not until you tell us where is trs
trs is dead and we killed him
Better tell Alcaro to re-code the groups page to make them get trophies

:^)
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for c3 didnt idol and lazy (and maybe a few other people) get the joke hack trophy on behalf of JUMP team? why cant they just do that again

e: oh yeah i guess putting in the extra effort for somebody that isn't idol doesnt really make any sense #fim{;)}

did you see my profile picture yet? check it out

Originally posted by Najeraldo
Originally posted by Impetus
If you guys really have to continue this argument in public

They really shouldn't continue this in public.

i think that's the point she was trying to make yes
Damn right I'm gold in most annoying yeet
Does getting trophy for being underrated also means I am not getting underrated?

/music plays

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Receiving?
Originally posted by SkywinDragoon
Does getting trophy for being underrated also means I am not getting underrated?

/music plays

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