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im fine with voting.

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holy FUCK that was probably the best game of onuw i have ever played. I'm going to break down my viewpoint bit by bit cause nnnnn

First off we can't ignore the gaffe of accidentally seeing the role i drunked. That made my play a bit easier theoritically. Since I knew i was now alpha wolf from center, coming in i knew bmm was 100% in being app seer. It was even easier considering bmm was already suspect of being alpha wolf so i could easily pull pinning alpha wolf on bmm off. Call out underway cause he probably drunked a wolf role, lynch the townie.

and then i forgot how drunk worked. The role i doppled. Which had a pm in my inbox saying "because you drunked this role, you dont do its action". My only excuse i have being i was tired after a long day at work and little sleep, enough that i was actually fucking up my spelling over irc. I thought i was coming in at the tailend of the game and had to try everything to save myself.

underway actually caught my major fuck up over irc and the moment that happened i was convinced my game was over and i was 100% getting voted for and immeditaly lost the game with it. I actually told noivern over query "watch me claim tanner" and tried slipping in that i doppled tanner and was lying 100% and that my gaffe was intentional to draw attention to myself, in the very "im tanner" wolf desperation play...

And then k3f comes in with the clutch with his aura seer post. All of a sudden the game rhetoric switches 360 to "see i told you i was dopple" and trying to figure out where everybody else standed. and somehow everybody forgot that i was lying out of my teeth, forgot my 10/10 fuck up, and i somehow got the bandwagon aginst bmm started again.

Imp actually being wolf surprises me 300% though. Like i thought for sure fp was wolf and voting him would mean a loss for me. I somehow managed to fuck up both underway and imp's entirely functioning wolf play with what i did lol.

I can't believe that a) i got the bmm vote i was looking for despite fucking up horrendously b) we won even though it got bodyguarded.

but ohmy god that was such a fun round to play please more like this

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sign for next game, idc about host

mod edit: let's not stretch tables

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Originally posted by Impetus
Mark Seer: You wake up and see all players who ended the Dusk Phase with a different mark to their starting mark. (Mark Seer wakes up at night before the Werewolves).

Basically just a mark equivalent of aura seer. Especially considering how vampire roles are pretty powerful, im ok with this. (also theres a better name somewhere lol)

Originally posted by Impetus
Counterfeiter: You wake up and give a counterfeit mark to any player (Including yourself). This mark can look like any mark, but has no effect. (The Counterfeiter wakes up at dusk before the assassin).

I'd be ok with this if this is handled curator style where there's a list of 4 possible fake marks, and you can't self give. If that ends up being the case, could be a really fun role to play with.

Originally posted by Impetus
Hexer: You wake up and give a player the Mark of the Hexed. That player can not wake up and take their action normally during the night phase, but will learn that you are the Hexer. (Wakes up at dusk before Cupid)

Not a fan. Having a town aligned role that's a roleblock isnt the best idea, even if you have a possible confirm chain. Could be neat, but im not sold.

Originally posted by Impetus
Tax Collector: You may declare the name of a mark. Any player with that mark must give it to you. If multiple players have that mark, one of them is chosen at random. All players can hear the mark that is declared, but do not know who declared it, or if the mark was exchanged. (Wakes up at night, before the Witch.)

Cool i guess, but the multiple mark actions are kind of janky. I suppose its cause one player can't have multiple marks, but it still feels odd to have to randomly choose somebody using actual rng. I'm also unsure what you mean by "give the mark". If the player is a mark-dealing role do they need to target you, or is their mark just automatically handed to you? If so, do they just revert to clarity?
e: actually pass on tax collector ignoring the slight jank there's only ever gonna be about 3-5 marks to declare depending on the game, there's not enough room for this role to operate to its intent

Im also not entirely sure on the idea of having custom roles consideing we've fucked up the roles 3 games in a row, but ill roll with it

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get lv to revive everybody. yosh star beams bowser. bmm mega bombs literally everybody. i personally mega bomb literally everybody. get goomb to wink me so i can mega bomb literally everybody again.

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did you see the mark of fear, or the count role itself?

And ftr, I was seer and looked at 2 of the center cards. I'm not gonna say which cards they were until somebody decides to bs a center role i can trap them in

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+! to counterfeiter being probably the worst new role this game. The whole "you aren't sure if the mark you have is real" is completely moot if you are able to give yourself the mark and immediately know that you aren't gonna believe that mark. It just doesn't let the role work as intended.

And ftr, assuming equal fake mark pick chance and equal player-choice distribution that means that anybody with a mark that can be faked, in this game at least, has only a 1/24 chance of their mark being fake. I'm not drawing a conclusion off of that, but just something i've noticed.

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Also fp being the counterfeiter and presumably counterfeiting his own mark (which is still dumb) makes no sense cause his first reaction would not be claiming the count is in play, but rather claiming the count might not be in play. FP might be trustworthy, i dont know

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i know that was what i was getting at i hit submit reply instead of preview reply when i was still editing up my post


fuk u noivernie

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i can confirm that noivern was the hexer at the start of the night.

so far nobody has claimed a role i saw in center, ftr

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i did not see any vampire aligned roles in the center, sadly. both were town.

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not having custom palletes is actually kind of dumb. The main problem with this contest is that a lot of the draconian measures proposed just arent interesting. I mean ofc you can force people to not name their level and change the color pallete, but that's not challenging. That's not interesting. It doesnt make people have to think creatively with the tools they have remaining. It doesnt add anything, it just boils down to farce in the end. It's just silly.

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Originally posted by Noivern
According to Prizm, two center cards are town. This means the only possible roles J_128 can be are Vampire or Renfield, so we can't trust him even if we wait.


Or somebody else is a vampire and got lucky with bsing j_128's role. Though we won't know until he pos-hahahaha i guess we're screwed on that front arent we

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Its not that nocustompalletes are harsher. All it boils down to is that isnt particularly engaging a restriction, not even remotely.

I can submit the same level to this contest twice, one with a custom pallete and with with a default pallete. What would change between them? Jack all, lets be 100% here. Compare that to restricting things such as gfx bypass, exanimation, and map16, which has a real and profound effect on how the level must be structured and designed. There's very little reason to allow it, and allow people who dont want to bother for the purity can just not bother, and not suffer any for it.

The only arguments against allowing pallete editing besides ~the purity~ i can foresee is that a) people can do fancy trickery with pallete editing b) it would require an aesthetics category for judging. But A is nigh impossible at best considering map16 usage is disallowed, and a presentation category has already been presented, so B easily factor into that. It can also just not be judged, like how titlescreen and overworlds isnt judged for vldcx.

tl;dr no custom palletes is just boring, have them shoehorned into another judging category/not judged at all if necessary

e: same for changing the level name. Having a smw-style name doesnt change anything about how a level is put together

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but noivern does have confirmation??? TKR is true though

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A. I actually feel the compilation will just look extremely consistently boring and visually uninteresting.

B. The only thing i feel when i see a vanilla palette is "meh". There's enough vanilla elements as is for a level to feel vanilla.

C. If somebody makes a pallete worse than the defaults thats on them. Not really relevant to hammering out contest rules.

D. why is it so important to restrict designers to only default palletes when the contest is (supposed to be) judging our design abilities only?

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but how tho

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thing is he said k3f is vampire, not count. This means he could be marksman and saw mark of the vampire, or saw k3f as a vamp role. If this line of thinking is to be believed, that means somebody else is the count... (assuming he isnt bsing, which seems rather likely ngl)

Or it's also entirely possible FP is completely lying about mark of fear. His only validation for his mark is k3f, remember. it's a possibility that fp actually has mark of the vampire instead of mark of fear, which is the only viable reason FP would lie about his mark. Seems unlikely though.

This conjecture is also entirely based on a "yeah k3f is vampire" post. Probably should just disregard J_128 as a whole. and maybe prevent people who have a history of not being active enough to play from playing next time

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at this point i think mfg is pretty inconsequential, considering he's more than likely renfield. J is probably not gonna show again, so i think we're going to need to play without him

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Originally posted by The Koopa Resistance
Originally posted by The Koopa Resistance
Falconpunch: The problem here is that there aren't enough vampires for him to be lying. If we have the count and renfield accounted for, then only the one regular vampire remains as an unknown member of the vampire team. Falconpunch having a town role was independently backed up by both K3fka and underway.

This still stands, even if K3fka is a vampire.


I only looked at 2 center cards of the 3. It's possible that the third one was a vampire role. However, it's also possible that it isnt. Just putting that out there.

Also worth noting that the count and the vampire cant both not be in play. One of them must be, meaning somebody has mark of the vampire.

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Here's my view of night actions
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Hexer - Noivern
??? - MarioFanGamer
Counterfeiter - Falconpunch
Seer - Prizm
??? - K3fka
??? - TKR
Robber - underway
???- J_128

Based on the fact that k3f went ahead and said that FP has the mark of the fear before fp himself answered whether he viewed a role or a mark, I'm inclined to trust his marksman claim.

MFG is most definitely scum, but at ultimate best it's a 50/50 whether he's count or renfield. Considering he didn't answer noivern when asked who got the mark of the vampire, it's probably way more likely than 50/50, though.

TKR has nobody in this game who can confirm/deny his action, but he has very little reason to lie. Best I can contrive is that he just got lucky with a bs claim, but that seems unlikely.

J_128 is absolutely probably the person to lynch.

Hexer - Noivern
Renfield - MarioFanGamer
Counterfeiter - Falconpunch
Seer - Prizm
Marksman - K3fka
Gremlin - TKR
Robber - underway
Count - J_128

The problem is still that somebody else is also a safe vote due to mark, because at best J-128's a lone count who gave out two marks, at worst there's another vampire with a bs'd role, being the center role i didnt check. That means that no matter what there are at least 3 vampire players, at worst 4. Does that matter if j_128 is a safe lynch *anyway*? eh

And just cause it's obvious nobody is claming them at this point, fortune teller and pickpocket were center. I'm actually kind of sad about the former, fortune teller is the role i was looking forward to playing with.

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How about VANILLA LEVEL DESIGN CONTEXT XTREME SUPER ULTRA X, or vldcxsux for short?

(I prefer BLDC over anything, PLDC could also work as well though)

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