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Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy

Thankfully in this scene, we immediately jump in on the fact that Squidward is oddly having the a large grin on his face, zoning out and even telling Spongebob that he is happy. Because of this, Spongebob gasps and runs away to Mr. Krabs.



Yeah Spongebob is a piece of shit for gasping.


I don't really see how that makes Spongebob "a piece of shit". While I agree that Spongebob is a bad character nowadays, knowing Squidward is in a bad mood really isn't that bad. I mean, Mr. Krabs knows Squidward is in a bad mood and he's not very bad in this episode.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
(These Spongebob/Patrick-Annoys-Squidward episodes in the post-movie era are called "Squidward Torture Porn" episodes btw)


No wonder Spongebob loved Mini-Squid #w{xD}

Originally posted by GiantShyGuy
Next we cut away to Spongebob and who-I-thought-was-Mr-Krabs-because-it-made-sense hiding in the bushes trying to find out where Squidward is going. And oh yeah the other person is actually Patrick.



FIRST SIGN OF A BAD EPISODE: It shoehorns in Patrick even though he wasn't even related to the plot beforehand.


I feel it would have made much more sense for the writers to use Mr. Krabs instead. Can you imagine that? The episode would be much better if there was a subplot where Mr. Krabs tries to get the Lodge.
Then, at the end, after Squidward gets kicked out, Mr. Krabs could have invited him back in, revealing he got it back for three dollars or something.
But no, we don't get that, because Nate Cash.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
So Squidward basically calls himself out by acknowledging these two dipshits who somehow got pass the security that involves a complicated tentacle handshake.


That's a large plot hole you pointed out. This episode, in all honesty, could have been done much better. It's rarely the idea itself that's bad, but here the problem is the execution. If, say, Spongebob and Mr. Krabs Patrick had to sneak in, that would be an interesting subplot to add to the main one.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Maybe that just shows how terrible the security is in this supposedly secret world?
Oh speaking of, the leader guy gets angry at innocent Squidward because for 1000 years no one outside of the Lodge has discovered it...


How would he even know that? Is he immortal or something?

If he was, there should be an episode where Spongebob and Patrick confuse him for Squidward.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
We get to the usual Squidward crying about his hopes and dreams, saying how he can't believe he got kicked out of the Cephalopod Lodge.

And you know what annoying little dipshit of a bastard Spongebob says?


"SpongeBob: Do we get to join the lodge?"


HOLY FUCK YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH I WANT PUNCH AND STRANGLE THIS LITTLE BITCH WITH HIS SMUG FACE RIGHT NOW.


Spongebob, in the newer episodes, is like Stimpy.

They're both morons, to an absurd degree, but being morons isn't what makes them bad. The problem is that morons are all that they are. I think you're overreacting to a bad character.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Spongebob didn't even give two shits about Squidward getting kicked out because of his own stupidity. In the earlier seasons he was AWARE when he caused pain to Squidward. He knew when he did wrong. But nowadays he's a selfish annoying bitch that we're supposed to find "lovable because of his happy-go-lucky, naive personality."


I disagree with that. Later in the episode, Spongebob tries to help Squidward - think about that. He recognizes that what he'd done to Squidward is bad, and he tries to do something about it. Spongebob is an 'annoying bitch', yes, but what he does then (the part with the sock) isn't exactly shellfish.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
[knocks on Cephalopod Lodge door]
Brother Roger: What is it? Oh, it’s you two.
SpongeBob: We just came to explain that Squidward had no idea that we followed him to the lodge. So, it's not his fault.
Patrick: Yeah. Not his fault.
Brother Roger: Then who's fault was it?
Patrick: Was it my fault?
SpongeBob: No, it wasn't your fault, Patrick.
Patrick: Thanks, SpongeBob. And it wasn't your fault either.
Brother Roger: Well, if it wasn't your fault, and it wasn't Squidward's fault, who's fault was it?
Patrick: Uh...maybe it's your fault.
Brother Roger: Squidward is never allowed in this lodge again!


Was I supposed to laugh?


Humor isn't the same for everybody, and for most people, it isn't even close. I feel that that part of the episode was somewhat funny (because faaaaaaaail) but you don't exactly seem to find it so.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
In any case we get some more dumbassery and Squidward torture (BECAUSE WE NEVER GET ENOUGH OF THOSE!) with a terrifying initiation.


How exactly is the initiation 'terrifying'?

Don't forget, he'd done a similar initiation when he joined the Lodge in the first place, so why is he scared of something he faced before and dealt with successfully?



Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
SpongeBob: Aw...Squidward, I hadn't realized how special your lodge was to you. I'll get you back in that club. And I know just how to do it

Bitch.


How does that make him a bitch?

Yes, Spongebob usually doesn't give two shits about Squidward, but at least he's TRYING to fix what he did. It's similar to how Ren is a big jerk towards Stimpy, but Ren still TRIES to fix things when he does something really bad.

They're both jerks, yes, but it's the thought that counts.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Because god-forbid Squidward gets ANY happiness.
This dull episode ends with Squidward getting kicked out of the lodge again, with Spongebob claiming that their Feathered Friends lodge is still a thing, and Patrick giving the Jellyfish initiation to Squidward once again. The episode fades to black and we here Squidward's painful, torturing scream.


Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
But no, it turns out it's a bored electric eel and it's an initiation night.




A really, dumb, initiation night.


Man, that really says a lot about how Squidward loved that place. In the early days of the show, Spongebob would have fixed things. It's too bad the show has writers like Nate Cash these days. #w{=(}

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
...and you know what? This episode is actually tame. I make it sound horrifying for Squidward (it is), but this is FAR from being the worst Spongebob episode out there. This is baby stuff with what the Spongebob writers have show us.



If only...

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
This is the part where we get to another two of this episode's, and of the whole show's, most annoying problems: it thinks mean-spirited is funny, and thinks being a little annoying cunt is funny.

Spongebob and Patrick have become far too dumb and annoying, while Squidward is nothing but a scapegoat for slapstick.


That sounds sort of like Ren and Stimpy, doesn't it? Ren is mean-spirited towards Stimpy, Stimpy is an idiot, so on and so on.

If you don't like the show for these reasons, do you like Ren and Stimpy? They have the same 'problems', so what makes them different?

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Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Because Spongebob recognize's Squidward's pain, meaning every time he drives Squidward insane HE KNOWS HE'S DRIVING SQUIDWARD INSANE, and continues to do so.

Mr. Krabs knows that Squidward hates his job, yet he keeps Squidward as the cashier instead of being the cashier himself and letting Squidward, say, play some music for the customers.


Food for thought - if you can call it that

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
What? Stimpy never (to my knowledge) ever makes you feel frustrated at him. This scene has Spongebob completely disregard Squidward's feelings, and selfishly asking if he can join the lodge after getting kicked out. The writers think this obliviousness and naivete is supposed to be funny, and is supposed to make the viewer like Spongebob. It's not the fact that his character is a total dumbass, it's the fact that he's a jerk as well, being passed off as "lovable". It is far from the degree of obnoxious obliviousness that happens in the frequently deemed "worst Spongebob episode", A Pal For Gary, but it still is frustrating, especially how we're supposed to see Spongebob as the "good guy". It's hard to take Spongebob's "I didn't realize how much this lodge meant to you" seriously when the rest of the episode (and the series) makes a tired joke out of it.

The thought that counts - a bunch bullcrap when it's empty and brainless.


Well, true. It would be nicer if Spongebob would clam up in situations like that

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
The sock escapade isn't shellfish nor selfish, but it still is far from being sincere. Spongebob and Patrick show no sympathy for Squidward in the episode, and they NEVER acknowledge that they have done something wrong. If they did acknowledge their wrong they wouldn't have messed it all up in the end. But they do.


Let me summarize that.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Spongebob isn't being shellfish or sincere. They don't feel pity or realize wrongdoing. If they knew how moral their actions were, their ridiculous plan would have worked!


That's like saying that Zambia couldn't get to space because they had bad ethics, rather than the fact that they had barely any money or knowledge of space. In a word, absurd.


It's something Spongebob would believe.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Originally posted by Dipalon
Humor isn't the same for everybody, and for most people, it isn't even close. I feel that that part of the episode was somewhat funny (because faaaaaaaail) but you don't exactly seem to find it so.


Did I imply otherwise? And of all places to call out on what I find funny, that scene is what you pick.


Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
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[knocks on Cephalopod Lodge door]
Brother Roger: What is it? Oh, it’s you two.
SpongeBob: We just came to explain that Squidward had no idea that we followed him to the lodge. So, it's not his fault.
Patrick: Yeah. Not his fault.
Brother Roger: Then who's fault was it?
Patrick: Was it my fault?
SpongeBob: No, it wasn't your fault, Patrick.
Patrick: Thanks, SpongeBob. And it wasn't your fault either.
Brother Roger: Well, if it wasn't your fault, and it wasn't Squidward's fault, who's fault was it?
Patrick: Uh...maybe it's your fault.
Brother Roger: Squidward is never allowed in this lodge again!




Was I supposed to laugh?


There - proof that you implied otherwise.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
That scene connects to what I said above. Spongebob and Patrick do not give two shits about Squidward, and this obliviousness to what they did is meant to be taken funny by the viewers? Seriously? The writers have shown that they think that obliviousness is supposed to be funny and lovable. It isn't when the character is flanderized to the extent of unlikability. Again, this is ain't A Pal For Gary but it's still a baffling and frustrating scene, and ultimately pointless when it doesn't even jiff a laugh.


I've already stated that humor is relative, but I agree that the scene isn't very entertaining. As for Spongebob and Patrick 'not giving two shits about Squidward', I feel I've already said enough.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Originally posted by Dipalon
How exactly is the initiation 'terrifying'?

Don't forget, he'd done a similar initiation when he joined the Lodge in the first place, so why is he scared of something he faced before and dealt with successfully?




Are you seriously asking me to explain pain and sensivity.


In the episode, Squidward says "I'll never forget my initiation ceremony" with a smile on his face.



He SMILES while he says it - he's remembering his initiation ceremony FONDLY. He's not worried about the new member - he doesn't even flinch when the guy gets stung. Just after he gets stung, everybody cheers, like it's no big eel. Everybody. When the guy gets stung, he looks at the affected area nervously, and that's it. No scream, no crying upon being stung, only some wincing. The guy who gets stung reacts as if something cod was placed on his forehead.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
I was talking in informal language ?_?
Don't read into cuss words


I wasn't reading into cuss words, I was saying that he was legitimately trying to fix the trouble he had caused. That's not something a bitch would do, in all senses of the meaning.


Cephalopod Lodge would be a much better episode if Spongebob and Patrick were replaced with dogs wearing helmets.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Originally posted by Dipalon
That sounds sort of like Ren and Stimpy, doesn't it? Ren is mean-spirited towards Stimpy, Stimpy is an idiot, so on and so on.

If you don't like the show for these reasons, do you like Ren and Stimpy? They have the same 'problems', so what makes them different?


I don't think you understand what I mean by mean-spirited. Mean-spirited is, for the most part in western cartoons, is the cruel treatment of characters that do not deserve it, sometimes with an implied or blatant moral that leaves the viewer mad rather than satisfied. Ren & Stimpy's dynamic and relationship with each other has been done to death so much in all sorts of media that it's a cliche in itself - the smart guy and the dumb but lovable guy. What differentiates all of these other twosomes from the monstrosity that this show is? THEY MAKE YOU LIKE THE CHARACTERS. Whether they obviously love each other through thick and thin, or completely hate each others guts but mutually respect each other's talents, successful iterations of these characters make you like both characters.


See "Ren Seeks Help". Enough said.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Spongebob and Patrick are undeniably unlikable. This is Season 6 of Spongebob - by this season the writers have shown they're jaded and don't know how to make a likable character if they tried. Squidward is arguably the only character left in the show with some likability left in him, but despite that Squidward is a bad character in itself. He's nothing but a loser in the show. The writers actively make it known that Squidward is a loser, and they want you to root for the characters making his life miserable.


Here is what I'd say is a big problem with your review. You say the characters are bad, and you keep saying they're bad through the review. Here, for example.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Patrick is never a good sign. He has been flanderized to be a total dumbass and a jerk. He isn't the slow-but-lovable starfish we knew. Nowadays he exists to annoy someone, whether it's another character or the viewer. So Patrick is somehow in this episode, helping Spongebob uncover the mystery of Squidward's happy day, and will follow him to wherever he's going.


You say Patrick's a bad character, and you explain why he is, but you don't give us evidence that he 'has been flanderized to be a total dumbass and a jerk' until much later. You give us the "Why Spongebob and Patrick are bad characters", now give us the "what for".

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Just goes to show how jaded the writers are when the main character they're trying to make you like ends up being the least likable one. (Well not really - the least likable character is Krabs)


I feel that who they're trying to make the main character (and who is the least likeable character) is a matter of opinion. For example, I think Squidward was the main character in the episode. Think about it - it was all about Squidward being part of the titular Lodge, Squidward being kicked out, Squidward having to tolerate his neighbor's antics, and Squidward going along with a plan to get him back in the lodge. Spongebob and Patrick are greatly involved in the plot, too, but that's like saying that the main character of the original Star Wars trilogy was R2-D2.

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
Also this:

Originally posted by MercuryPenny

What?

Ren and Stimpy took it past the line twice leading to humor. Spongebob nowadays just is so grotesque and asinine that it just becomes tasteless and stupid.


The Ren and Stimpy Adult Party Cartoon, anyone?

Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
I was talking in informal language ?_?
Don't read into cuss words


Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
So Squidward basically calls himself out by acknowledging these two dipshits who somehow got pass the security that involves a complicated tentacle handshake.


Originally posted by Giant Shy Guy
And you know what annoying little dipshit of a bastard Spongebob says?


Do you have any idea how offensive that is to me?

You have a full alphabetical list of all SMWC members, there is no excuse.

You wanna know how offensive that is?

That's as offensive as me reviewing a Spongebob episode and referring to Spongebob as "Giant Shy Guy". That is precisely how offensive it is.

Oh, and one last thing.

Originally posted by Hobz
However, some of the episodes in early season 4 (can't think of any specific names) seemed to forget the context to these escalations and just seemed to downgrade to "lolsorandum" territory, only including these surreal elements because it's expected of them.


That sounds similar to Black Hole where Ren and Stimpy get sucked into a black hole and survive. Whilst mutating, they climb a mountain and find a pile of smelly left socks. Then, they have to get on a bus to New Jersey, but they don't have enough change. However, it turns out that they did have enough change, and Stimpy finds a solution to the problem - he implodes them both.

You just go "What."

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The show was truly a classic, and I feel that Cartoon Network should definitely show reruns of it. Modern shows (e.g. Johnny Test, Ben 10, Allen Gregory) pale in comparison to Ed Edd n' Eddy.

Originally posted by Face
Perversion makes everything better.


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In my opinion, SatAM and AoStH were great, as was Sonic Underground. Sonic X wasn't very good, but I feel that Sega has a good track record with television overall.

Originally posted by not cracked.com, so who cares
Sonic Boom is a character-driven comedy that leaves a trail of robot wreckage in its smoldering wake. The series centers on Sonic, his best friend and sidekick, Tails, their never-ending search for adventure, and their battles with Sonic’s arch-nemesis, Dr. Eggman.


Sonic Boom, according to this, will likely be a hybrid of AoStH and SatAM, and I feel that this show will be a success.
Unlike the games...


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Here's something really disturbing.

"I told you I'd shoot, but you didn't believe me! Why didn't you believe me?"


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The Christmas Tree.

I mean, were they even trying?

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This.

Not kidding here.

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Originally posted by Captain Savage
What are your ideas? Any idea for the sins? I have some ideas for gluttony/lust/greed/sloth but what about envy/pride/wrath?


Well, Larry Koopa could be Pride, because he likes to sing songs about himself. (see Gopher Bash) Or use Wendy, because she's really vain.

Roy Koopa is a good example of Wrath, since he prefers brawn over brains - destroying things often.

You could try using Ludwig for Envy, but he's mainly just arrogant.

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How to make pipes one way?

Fast answer please.

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I mean overworld.

One way is that you enter one pipe than go out an other pipe.

But you no go back even if wanting to.

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What you said I tried and it did work not as I hope, so I made just the second pipe go into itself.

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