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Super Mario - Back to the Classics C3 Thread

Yup, I’m back after 3 months or so, and so is Back to the Classics.. It’s nice to see all the newb faces and the old ones too.. but yeah, I’m back for my 1000th post!!

Wait, you didn’t even know I was gone? Eh, well, I’ll keep this short: my compy crashed, I lost everything, ran off from SMWC like a drama queen [by the way, I wrote my leaving post on my iPod Touch, and I hadn’t seen they’d changed the rules to “no leaving posts” until after my post.. you see, the text is small, and I noticed in the talk section(before I saw the leave/return thread is now “Introduce Yourself”) before leaving that the Bar and Grill was named after my hack(back to the Classics), and just had to post in there. If I ever returned (I really thought I was leaving), I thought, “Hey, why not on my 1000th post?” so I posted my thanks in that thread for being named after my hack, and that I was leaving. I THEN noticed the leave/return thread was gone, and facepalmed.. eh..], found a pretty old backup, and remade progress. I’ve also been lurking a bit here while “away”, so I know of LM 7, but I’ve chosen to continue using LM 6, to keep it “2009” vanilla.

And, after almost a year on this hack, by now every single level in BttC is done! Yay! So, I’m back to FINALLY participate in a C3 before I get kicked out of the Vanilla Team Hack or ASMWCP, and to show I’m not dead.

To all the new people, my hack is called Back to the Classics(like I haven’t made it clear enough XD), and it’s completely “early 2009” vanilla. I say “early 2009” because by now people are combining tilesets and overlapping and rotating tiles and even GFX edits and the like. My hack has no such things: not even ExGFX to combine tilesets or anything! NO ExGFX at ALL (lol of course I know how, but don’t want to), I’ve used only Lunar Magic to make this hack. No YY-CHR or external crap. Anyways, despite that, my hack is still quite unique. I’m 99.99% sure I invented Map16 trickery back when I started this hack, which is basically using Map16 tiles cleverly to make things. Nowadays all vanilla hackers use it, many heavily though w/ ExGFX, while again, I use no ExGFX. You can’t exactly compare me to the elite vanilla hackers of today(I’m specifically thinking of Lynnes and Broozer, but forgive me if I forgot any, there’s a lot of good vanilla hackers today), since the term “vanilla” has evolved to mean something pretty easy to work w/, and definitely better looking, while I’m using the term as it was back a year ago(trust me, back then my stuff was amazing to people). Anyways, wall of text aside, have some screenies and videos! By the way, ignore ALL HUD stuff as of now..

Overworld! Which, I had to REDO perfectly by hand(I’mma disable looking around btw). For comparison, here’s the original.

WORLD 1: beach themed

Level 1 - Seacliff Stretch



I kept the original SMW FG palette in this level for the feeling it gives. Notice the vanilla BG(pretty old but eh). This level is almost a year old :O


The first real Map16 gimmick I made so long ago... bushes on ledges. The tiles connecting the bush to the ledges are slope tiles :>

Note I killed a lot of the enemies in these screens..









We COULD take the normal exit..



or the not-so-secret secret exit. layer 3 palette will be changed.

And the lava isn't dark because lava actually glows believe it or not.



out of the cave

Level 2 - Mushroom Mile(suggestions for new name plz( and remember alliteration ~ ))



Beginning of the level. Yes, the complicated mushroom stems are vanilla. In fact they don't even use Map16 tiles, it's just line guides :O



Remember these levels are like a year old.



btw I really like the athletic feeling the BG palette gives off in this level. also the mushroom palette is semi-outdated.







again, vanilla floating water made w/ line guides. ? blocks will be removed as the create cutoff :/



I think you can tell what the lines are supposed to resemble..





for the thrice time, line guides as outlines







fricken saw











new platform just in case you lost the old one.



Preview vid of Iggy's Sand Castle

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WORLD 2 - forest themed

This world aint too phenomenal, and hasn't changed much since I showed every level of it, so yah...

Level 2-2 Calm Clearing



yes i know how to edit start position XD I just wanted to have him fall.





optional path











omg this pic is SO old. like, almost a year :O





lol

Level 2-3: some haunted level(name suggestions plz)



spooky



I can't fix this cutoff, and it's fun enough to overcome it being slightly cutoff, so shut up.



I know, I know, it isn't funny...



the green sky grew on me, not sure why, or else i would of made it purple.



vertical action









It takes us here.





The inside of the ghost house is pretty short.





generic boo fight

Quick few screenies of Level 2-Castle: Petrified Palace





The saws are supposed to look like they're cutting the wood...



WORLD 3 - lake themed



Level 3-1: Noontime Knoll



This level is actually the second I made for the hack (the 1st was 1-1, Seacliff Stretch). It reminds me of where I live in summer for some reason. And yes I invented the "peas"(grass dots) in the FG dirt, just like I invented all of my Map16 gimmicks(and Map 16 GIMMICKING in itself)









secret note block :O





Level 2-3: Lazy Lake

This level prolly wowed the most people, and I've improved it to make it EVEN BETTER looking!





this is what I mean by better looking. More Map16 gimmicks I invented:

pipe tiles as water, and making Map16 copies of FG using a dif. palette! The dif. palette is exactly the same but w/ +100 or so blue added. I invented that, too, and many people've used it.



Did I mention I <3 dolphins?



Again, I kept the SMW FG palette for nostalgia.







Plenty of nooks and crannies to explore in this level...



I can't wait til someone who prolly doesn't even hack yells at me for putting a Rip Van Fish on land...







swimmin'~





It's funny because the fish is suffering!







I can't wait til someone who prolly doesn't even hack yells at me for this tiny cutoff...





Torpedo Teds, at your service.



I personally like these fences









Hard Mode is the same but at night w/ a Puffer Fish. Ignore the BG line...



You get the idea...

Now, a vid. of a gimmicky optional level in the lake world, Cliffside Climb:

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WORLD 4 - snow themed



Level 4-1, currently unnamed, was inspired by SMB3 1-2 w/ the optional star run, and also that one grassy ice world level.





A star hidden 'neath the note blox!



I'M INVINCIBLE!









Blocks that contain more stars if you're still Star Mario, or a coin if you're not.





Now, 2 snow world videos:

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^prolly final snow world level(excluding castle). Old vid, eh. Hasn't changed much, but I <3 the gimmick still.



Aaaand, Snow World 4-1, Peppermint Pass, another gimmicky level:

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Took forever to set up secondary entrances :/



WORLD 5 - sky themed



Undecided level #, Wonder Woods. A forest in the sky? WTF. Didn't come out as I hoped, but meh.











I actually LIKE how the trees and cannons look penetrating the clouds.







I spin jumped an invinca-shell..



optional stuff













Level 5-Castle: Unnamed Sky Castle. Semi-epic level.







hmmm...



ah.





bonus passage^









Outside and atop the great cloud castle portion of the level.

The next portion is an...



AIRSHIP! HELL YEAH!



don't wanna spoil the rest of the level...



Preview Vid. of another Sky World level



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Pissed when I saw this, but I assure you the similar level idea was coincidental, this level is quite old.

WORLD 6 - night/bowser theme

Level 6-1 Burnt Badlands

Last mandatory level (besides the final castle). I know using red BGs are iffy, but I hope this grapefruit sky is okay.


This level is actually supposed to be ancient ruins of a temple worshiping the volcano.

bonus room looks like a face

note the volcano craters. I actually had a pretty nifty idea I never got around to involving these.. meh.


Generic stuff.

Into the volcano. Check out them Map16 trickery crystals.

Nice buzzy beetle palette and a podoboo.


Tried to give the swoopers a more natural bat look. I could improve it, when I'm less lazy.

Going for an 'old bones' look w/ the skull raft.

By the way I made most of this level on paper first. Put a decent amount of work into making the ceiling and lava slope-y.




Outside, and it's night! I'mma improve the night sky palette. Ninji erupting from the volcano crater.

Even more volcano feel w/ the volcano lotus atop a volcanic crater...

Level 6-optional: Shadow Symphony
This level's pretty old, but has some good design. It's after the volcano level, and OPTIONAL. It has an intricate secret exit aswell.

Cheesy poem by meh.

Irony: in SMW, Banzai Bills/Rexes appeared FIRST AND ONLY in the VERY FIRST optional level.
In my hack, Banzai Bills/Rexes appear FIRST AND ONLY in the VERY LAST optional level(unless you include this level's secret level, or the final castle).


Big ol' Monty Moles too.



fork here.

upper path.

lower path.


it's only like half the level, but eh.

Now, here's a video depicting the same level, but its secret exit. I don't show how to get the first blue P-switch, as it's the 'first domino' in the path to the secret. I had fun making this secret exit a while ago:
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Hopefully this was a pleasant surprise for you all. I do have a checklist of stuff before this hack’ll be finished:

-First of my priorities, ASMWCP and Vanilla Team Hack commitments :/

-Go through and polish levels a bit(aka color HUD to its world theme, remove all Yoshi Coins(since I’v decided they’re cliché), remove bad stuff, add vanilla HDMA, etc.)

-Submaps

-Editing the Boss Battles :O

-Betatesting(don’t request I’m not ready and have some good hacker and former supporters I have in mind anyways..)

-hm, that’s it I think.. unless I think of something else..



tl;dr wall of text and im back :>

oh and ignore this stuff below, dunno how to close embed codes. Eh.
Wow, this is amazing for a vanilla! There are some cutoff though.

And, I did notice you were gone, and I was like, "You have 999 posts. Amazing"

Cutoff or not, I love this hack for a few reasons:

1. It looks freakin cool!
2. Its vanilla!
3. Gave me some ideas for any vanilla hacks I do!

:D
Oh my god, Spuddy, I missed you </3

This hack is absolutely amazing, and even with the new LM, I find this more impressive. This hack has aged well, I must say!
Thanks everyone :>
@mockingod: heh. Yeah, minor cutoff bothers quite a few people who view my hack.
@1UPdudes: 1. :>
2. true
3. I'm glad I inspire people. You amongst them :>
RedToonLink: you too buddy ;O And thanks, I agree this thing has evolved.
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Welcome back spud. I missed ya!

Anyways, this all looks amazing, and I really like how creative that you got with this.
Spud! Where've you been?! I missed you. Anyways, BttC is looking much more polished than ever before, really nice stuff going on here.
Thanks, Adam and Zildjian. Great to see you both too :>
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SPUDDY! You're back! #w{=)}

It's quite nice to see that you got back to this! It's definitely one of the best vanilla hacks I've seen.
Good fucking bye.
SPUD!!
fffhahahaahaha, man when I saw the thread title, I couldn't believe it. Welcome back buddy!

As for your hack, well, I pretty much think the same thing as before you left: best vanilla hack I've ever seen.
There's so much variety, and it keeps the SMW feel without focusing on making it basically look chocolate with vanilla graphics. I'm not saying that having choconilla graphics are a bad thing, but it's nice to see that you can make outstanding stuff without having super fancy vanilla graphics.

Spud. <3




IRC Quotes (March 20th update!)

/MKICK 4: Flantastic Puns
Kristian, great to see you too! How you doin'?

Ha, I'm glad some people still thinks my hack is so great. If I ever vanilla hack again(quite probable), it'll be up to snuff- by that I mean combining tilesets 'n' such, the main reason I kept this hack uber vanilla is because when I began it not combining tilesets was the norm, and by now, even if that's no longer the case, I have a natural tendency to finish what I started HOW I started.
Thanks :>
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Hey Spud! Glad to see you back!

Well I remember this hack back then, it looks really interesting and something I would like to try out when I can. Anyways the screens look nice.
Thanks reghrhre, good to see you too.
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I remember seeing this a while back. Great job with this! It keeps looking better and better. I look forward to trying it out.

Originally posted by Spud Alpha
And the lava isn't dark because lava actually glows believe it or not.

^ BEST C3 COMMENT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR.

[?] Miscellaneous Helpful Hints
If I moderated your hack, there was apparently a 90 percent chance it was rejected.
Really nice Map16 tricks, here (line guide usage, Map16 crystals)! Also got some nice level ideas here as well. I'll wait patiently for its completion.

Originally posted by andy_k_250
Originally posted by Spud Alpha
And the lava isn't dark because lava actually glows believe it or not.

^ BEST C3 COMMENT I HAVE SEEN SO FAR.

Agreed.

You hear dice being thrown...
My SMW ROMhack: Super Market Roll Drums is active once again!
Second 2014 C3 Demo Here ([thread] [demo])
Lunatic Lolo, an Adventures of Lolo 2 hack: 20/54 Levels ([C3 thread] [demo])
@two last commenters: thanks! Don't worry, the hack'll be done pretty soon.

Also lol.
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Great vanilla hack! Good use of GFX and stuff! Also 399th post! :)
@Zerio: hi! Not releasing a demo, the game is near completion, and then the FULL version will be released..

@Bird0: thanks.
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