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Iran Nuclear Development

As you know, I'm Israeli, and our great enemy is Iran. They develop nuclear bombs, and they are threatening to bomb us soon. I want you to reply and say what do you think about that.
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Oh I heard about this just today in school.

Did they actually threaten you in public or did you just make that up though?
Because that would be a pretty dumb move on their side, kinda like asking the whole world to shoot them down.
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I've never heard of Iran actually threatening to bomb Isreal (though they are obviously no friends of Isreal), nor have I seen any conclusive reports that show they are even actually trying to develop nuclear weapons, and they deny it. But, even if they did have nuclear weapons and the will to use them against Isreal, I'm sure Isreal can handle itself, they are like a super power in that part of the world.
Originally posted by HuFlungDu
But, even if they did have nuclear weapons and the will to use them against Isreal, I'm sure Isreal can handle itself, they are like a super power in that part of the world.


It's a little bit complicated, because our authorities want to attack Iran, but USA and Europe don't allow that.
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If Iran is developing a nuclear device to threaten Israel, then I would just let Europe and the US confront the creators of nuclear. I'm not kidding. Iran is the last country you should ever be visiting.
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Originally posted by Detroit Lions Deity
Iran is the last country you should ever be visiting.


Bollocks. North Korea is worse.

In any case, yes, as long as different civilizations will exist, so will struggles exist. Not much to do about that. What I think? The problem needs to resolve itself. Iran won't bomb Israel. They're not that stupid. If Iran obliterates Israel, they will be caught back just as hard, if not harder, by the Western world. They've got a lot to lose - this is not a terrorist organization or anything.

I'd say you shouldn't worry now. Neither should your entire region, because that's what the struggles are coming from - but that's besides the point. Even so, what can you (or us?) do about the situation? I think it's no use worrying about this. Threats will always remain, in any instance. Perhaps you think I have easy talk because I don't live in Israel, but we (me, living in the Netherlands) too are warned, if anything were to happen.
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I think it's unlikely that Iran will open up a war.
Also, there's many lies about WMD. Just take Saddam Hussein, who was said to have WMD, because America was in need for a new enemy once again, fighting terrorism = conquering oil wells, that's the truth! George W. Bush admitted, that it was just made up.
Even if Iran had the WMD, other countries have them, either, it seems to be just for self protection nowadays.
Why do America, Russia and your country, Israel, have the right to own WMD, but not Iran? Don't say it's because of Ahmadinedschad! The mass murderer Wladimir Putin (he's responsible for the death of at least 80.000 people in Chechnya) does own weapons, which are only said to be owned by Iran. And don't forget your country isn't very liked, inter alia because Israel surpresses Palestine.
Nobody wants a war, but you must see, how things really go in this world. Every country has its effect-seeking mass media in order to lead their folks into a certain direction. What are people talking about on street and what are they afraid, concerned etc. of? The mass media decide! See, this Isreal-Iran-problem isn't new at all, it's been through the media for a couple of years now. When I'm on the Internet I see many important things, which aren't mentioned in the news once; many others notice that, too. TV is a people-stultification- and parody-machinery, especially commercial television.

It's just like the Western countries seem to rush Islamic countries. Their reasoning is: Fighting Terrorism. The truth is: Oil. Oil and natural gas are the most important goods in Iran, they even have an Oil Minister.
These "wars" are about resources. In order to prevent the Western people from protesting against the wars, a reason is needed. And the "security" reason is what works best.

In our news, a sentence said by Ahmadinedschad was translated like this:
"Isreal must be deleted from the world map"
A few days later, a very good cabaret artist translated it the right way and the broadcast station admitted the former translation was wrong:
"The occupation-regime of Isreal must become history"
Small difference much? Coincidence? Bitch please.

So yeah, as said above, I think Iran will not open up a war.
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And you don't think the US, Russian, Israeli, Chinese, and other nuclear-power nations' governments dislike the idea of so many nations having nuclear weapons, themselves included? It's not like anyone would be able to just say "Alright, everyone in the world must disarm all their nuclear weapons right now, for the sake of global peace". How would that be managed, exactly? They've already discovered that materials for making such weapons have turned up short, and if they can't even keep proper tabs on the stuff they currently own, how can they effectively organize a global disarm? The chance also remains that a nation may be dishonest, utilizing such a plan to stockpile nuclear weapons in secret, allowing them to dominate as a world power through military might (but due to missile defense and other technologies such threats wouldn't hold much water against the stronger nations of the world).

The bare fact of the matter is that, as things are now, there simply isn't an effective way to kill off all nuclear weapons, but progress has been made by some nations to at least reduce the number available (at the promise that other sides reduce their own stockpiles by an equal to or greater amount, of course). Rather than sit around and pout about this the nations are seemingly joining together, for the most part, to at least try and cut off any more nations from gaining this power and using it for the wrong reasons. While some may attempt to utilize this for good reasons (as good as nuclear energy can be, considering how much risk it poses) the chance of them turning around to produce weapons with such methods is just too great to allow.

Seems pretty bully-ish to me, and I don't really agree with these nations bossing around smaller ones, but that's just how I see it.
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Reducing quantities of nuclear weapons (i.e. the START treaty between the US and Russia) is symbolic at best. Some nuclear weapons the size of a grapefruit are capable of killing over 500,000, and many nations already possess enough nukes to blow the world several times over. Nations agreeing to remove their weapons supplies entirely means there are fewer states that can threaten their use, to be sure, but it does leave nations providing the umbrella a bit tied behind their backs. Here's what I mean: Nation A agrees to give up its nukes and be under the nuclear umbrella of Nation B. Nation B may be more lenient on human rights violations/willing to veto UN resolutions condemning Nation A, out of fear that Nation A would rekindle their nuclear weapons program if the alliance wasn't constantly emphasized.

The idea of nuclear weapons can't be killed, and I very strongly doubt a nuclear-free world is possible. It's probably not desirable either - a world with nuclear weapons may make the world safer, deterring unwarranted invasion and military force.

In the case of Iran, reports are obviously limited, but based on a few news articles I've seen (as well as debate rounds I've had on the topic) Iran's nuclear program isn't very operational and has trouble with uranium enrichment. That probably doesn't matter in a world where Israel and western states are entirely willing to preemptively strike, especially if they could target nuclear facilities. The radiation from a first strike would devastate the Iranian people and exacerbate relations, especially as more nations were involved. I doubt Ahmadinejad is a rational actor, so figuring out whether he would risk a nuclear strike against Israel even if he had the resources is difficult. But if you felt like you were going to get struck no matter what, you'd probably be more likely to prepare weapons and strike ahead of time.

The real problem I see is in Iran's regime itself - Iranians would be better off without a leader that sat on oil profits and allowed sanctions to decimate the population. The world would be better off with a more moderate regime that, even if it had weapons, would choose negotiation over pulling the trigger. For the time being though, an Israeli first strike is probably the bigger risk, something US Defense Secretary Leon Panetta admitted was entirely a possibility.
Originally posted by Supertails
I doubt Ahmadinejad is a rational actor

Whether or not he is (I would argue he is) is irrelevant, as he doesn't have the power to start a war, that power is reserved for the Supreme Leader of Iran. Currently, that's the guy who reportedly said:
Originally posted by Ayatollah Seyed Ali Hosseini Khamenei

in response to Ahmadinejad saying that he wants Isreal wiped off the map. At least the first part of that is true; Iran hasn't attacked another country in well over a hundred years. Which is not to say that the leaders in Iran are great guys or anything, they just aren't really a threat.
Originally posted by HuFlungDu
in response to Ahmadinejad saying that he wants Isreal wiped off the map. At least the first part of that is true; Iran hasn't attacked another country in well over a hundred years. Which is not to say that the leaders in Iran are great guys or anything, they just aren't really a threat.


Phew... Now I'm relaxed...
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At first I hear they threat to shorten our gas supply. Now I hear the bombings, so they try do of the vengeance from Osama i beleive. They best not try.

And like Chargin Chuck, I relaxed...

EDIT: If they do, i hope it no start a World War 4...
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EDIT: If they do, i hope it no start a World War 4...

What happened to World War III?

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What happened to World War III?

World War III is afk right now, so World War IV has to fill in for it.
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Smells like the americans are waiting for a reason for "humanitary mission".
Also, the only reason to have a nuke, so other countries don't try to invade you.(When you look at it, its like kids in high school, threatening eachother...)
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