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KLDC 2020 - Discussion

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If you have any questions or general contest feedback and discussion, here is the place for you to share it

THIS IS NOT THE SUBMISSION THREAD. Make sure you link your level in the Rules and Submissions thread, because nothing here will be given to judges.

Two ground rules:
--No screenshots. Feel free to pass screenshots around of your levels on Discord and in private messages, but don't post them in a public thread where the judges will be able to see them.
--If you have questions about your specific level or are looking for individual feedback, please do so in a separate thread from this discussion
I'm not a doctor.

FAQ:

Can I use [insert patch here]?
Yes, as long as it follows all the rules.

Can I use [insert graphics here]?
Yes, as long as it follows all the rules.

Can I use [insert custom music here]?
Yes, as long as it follows all the rules.
I'm not a doctor.

nice
Can I also use the old baserom?
You can use the KLDC2017 baserom if you want, but you're still responsible for patching the Retry System to it. (If Retry is already included as part of that baserom, then ignore this last part, I'm not familiar with the contents of that baserom.)
Originally posted by Doctor No
--No screenshots. Feel free to pass screenshots around of your levels on Discord and in private messages, but don't post them in a public thread where the judges will be able to see them.

Can we post screenshots in our level threads? If yes, should they be collapsed or isn't that necessary?

Can we work on one level with a partner and the other level with an other person?
I have a Discord server as well!
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Basically, I believe in peace and bashing two bricks together.
Originally posted by 7 up
Can we post screenshots in our level threads? If yes, should they be collapsed or isn't that necessary?


Yes, and that's your call on collapsing or not, but do be aware that those threads are public. Our judges are all admirable people of honor and class, though, so no need to worry about sharing screenshots.

Originally posted by 7 up
Can we work on one level with a partner and the other level with an other person?


No. You are limited to one entry. You can work together with a partner on that entry or you can do it solo, but you can't do more than one.
I'm not a doctor.

Originally posted by FPzero
You can use the KLDC2017 baserom if you want, but you're still responsible for patching the Retry System to it. (If Retry is already included as part of that baserom, then ignore this last part, I'm not familiar with the contents of that baserom.)

It's included by default in that base ROM so no extra effort is necessary.
Though the entrants can choose between that and the one from the submissions thread, but it's optional.
I've added a clarification to the Rules post:

You can use previous versions of worldpeace's patch, including the one used in the 2017 KLDC baserom.
I'm not a doctor.

I'm surprised by that there are still some demands on 2017 KLDC's base ROM in 2020, but it is so old and not compatible with LM3.0+ and recent resources. So, here's an updated version of KLDC base ROM including the recent version of ASM (such as retry and GHB's SMB3 pipe).

KLDC Base ROM ver. 4


Functionally it is almost equivalent to the previous base ROM (echo, p-switch music reset, etc). But in this new version, an easy way to insert multiple midways via custom objects is provided; with the feature, it's possible to add multiple midways in a single level without pipe/door transitions (up to 8 per sublevel by the default setting which may be changed). Check "common patches/midwayinst/custom_bar.png" for details.
Thank you, worldpeace!

I'm adding that baserom link to the post alongside the RHR baserom.
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I recently learned that pixi may erase some of ROM data if it has been applied once to the ROM with an empty custom sprite list. The base ROM may crash if you run pixi in the setting I posted yesterday (pixi without any sprites was already applied once to the ROM), so I had to port everything to a clean ROM.

If you obtained the base ROM before this post, please download it again. The link is the same. Thank you.
Hello all,
I would like to know what would be the best way for rename a rom.
I'll explain myself,
as the rules thread says:
"please do not include your name within your level design"

how should I rename my rom ? should I stick with the original name for sake of simplicity, or can I rename it as I want, as far i not include my name?
Thank you
Rename it to whatever you think about, as long as you don't include your name anywhere in the ROM. This is for the sake of anonymity and surprise so the judges can expect anything from your level.
Kind of a stupid question, but here are my two cents.
Since this will going live for Twitch, is the use of savestates encouraged for level-testing purposes, or can they be used throughout the entirety of the level?
Originally posted by Mandagary
Since this will going live for Twitch, is the use of savestates encouraged for level-testing purposes, or can they be used throughout the entirety of the level?

There must be a fair chance to beat Kaizo: Light levels without any tools.

I only use savestates for testing purposes, but only before the start of the level or the new section if I didn't apply any checkpoints. I don't feel like getting through the title screen, so I usually use one savestate from before entering the level.

Thank you, Doctor No, for dispelling any doubts! Sorry the further part of my sounds idiotic, but...
Originally posted by Doctor No
Originally posted by 7 up
Can we post screenshots in our level threads? If yes, should they be collapsed or isn't that necessary?


Yes, and that's your call on collapsing or not, but do be aware that those threads are public. Our judges are all admirable people of honor and class, though, so no need to worry about sharing screenshots.

There was no mention about screenshots the thread for your level in this thread's OP, so I wasn't certain about showing screenshots of my level.

As for the second doubt, I misinterpreted one of the rules.
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Originally posted by Mandagary
Kind of a stupid question, but here are my two cents.
Since this will going live for Twitch, is the use of savestates encouraged for level-testing purposes, or can they be used throughout the entirety of the level?


7 up addressed this but I'll say it as well:

Feel free to use savestates when testing your level design, but know that judges will not be using savestates to play your level. Kaizo: Light requires the level be beatable without savestates, and if judges feel like your level requires savestates to be completed, they are empowered to automatically disqualify it.
I'm not a doctor.

i'am bored of this contest!
Originally posted by Doctor No
o rly a contest for the SMW central dudes who can't make a kaizo just for playing it really?

yes yes yes!
I don't know what are you even into
But if you don't actually have a solid suggestion to improve for future contests then you should abstain from posting things like this.
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