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Is it possible to convert echo to "reverb"?
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Hi, I wonder, i can remove that echo delay and convert it to reverb? It's possible? I don't know if I explain myself, did you see that if you put an instrument like @ 3, the echo delay ruins the instrument? I need to know how to eliminate it or at least if it is possible in some way.
There is a way to at least make the echo sound a lot closer to a surround-sound reverb.

$EF$FF$XX$YY

$XX is left side, $YY is the right side. To make this happen, one side must be around $00~$7F, $00 being the lowest and $7F being the highest. The other should be around $80~$FF, $FF being the lowest and $80 being the highest. My recommendation is something like $20 on one side and $E0 on the other.


$F1$0X$ZZ$01
Now if you want the reverb, there really does need to be some small delay as well, handled in $0X, though if you really don't want noticeable delay at all, then set that to $01 (at this delay point I might not even call it reverb, just surround sound effect). And for the surround sound to really be effective, $ZZ must be set around $80~$FF to take effect, $FF having the lowest reverb and $80 having the highest.
Yep, I really like using surround on the echo. However, at its core, the echo effect is just a delay. There is no way to turn it into reverb.

A few things you can try to make it sound more like reverb:
Use remote commands to add a small release fade to instruments. The release fade can hide the echo a bit.
Use two copies of a channel, with the second copy being quieter and slightly behind the first. This is often called fake echo, and can help fill out a melody and hide the artificial qualities of the snes echo.
The fake echo can either be just a few ticks behind to create an early reflection kind of sound, or a larger distance such as an 8th note, quarter note etc. to give an actual echo effect. Both have their uses, depending on what you want to do. Using slightly different tuning, vibrato and adsr on the fake echo helps too.

But these are only tricks which sometimes work. They can work very well in stuff likethis, but I made that port specifically to experiment with turning the echo into reverb, and as a result I was able to approach it differently. Most normal music wont' be able to make such extensive use of these tricks, so you'll have to do what you can. Often, tweaking the delay time of the echo is at least a good start, since different flavors can be achieved with different delay times.

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