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What do you think about Windows 11 leaks? (Windows 11 was finally revealed)
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I actually kinda like simplistic logos. I guess that's a somewhat unpopular opinion, but there we go.

The only thing that's somewhat bothering me about the Windows 11 logo is that it has sharp corners, which is in no way reflective of the actual OS. I think they should have given the logo round corners, kinda like the Windows 1.0 logo. That's really a nitpick, though.

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Oh, yeah, about the logos: The trend for flat design indeed gets applied too blindly and many logos surely end up being too bland (four squares in a single colour? Come on, it can't get any more bland than that!) but the same can't be said for Firefox given its colours and still having a relatively complex shape.

Originally posted by Klug
Like I said in this thread, it seems that Windows 10 is about to end in four years or less, so people might need to switch to the latest version when it's released. Also, the devs at Wine would have a hard time to make Windows 11 apps work on other Linux distros!

Where... are you going with that response, considering it doesn't really match up with my quoted post and reads confusingly as well?
Originally posted by Klug

Like I said in this thread, it seems that Windows 10 is about to end in four years or less, so people might need to switch to the latest version when it's released.


well four years to some people seems like a long time

maybe in 2025 I'll just get a brand new PC with a pre-installed Win11 version from that time. no need for me to switch to Win11 in late 2021 since the first release of that will have some bugs to be ironed out which will eventually get fixed in future feature updates for Win11

in the meantime, I'm happy running Win10 LTSC 2019, which has a much different support timeline and will be supported beyond 2025
Well, well, well! We now have an official release date for Windows 11: The next-gen OS will be released on October 5th as a free upgrade, so stay tuned for that!

Also, if you're planning to upgrade your PC to Windows 11 from an older version Windows, make sure that your PC is eligible for the upgrade. "The upgrade will then roll out over time to in-market devices based on intelligence models that consider hardware eligibility, reliability metrics, age of device and other factors that impact the upgrade experience," as stated in this article from the Windows Experience Blog.

Therefore, everyone should get a free upgrade to Windows 11 by mid-2022!
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Do note that Windows 11 will force you to have a 64-bit capable computer, which makes perfect sense in today's day and age, but will also "force" you to have TPM 2.0 and SecureBoot enabled on your UEFI config.

However, for those who like to dual-boot, or don't want to upgrade to an officially supported device to run Windows 11, you don't have to. Windows 11 runs just fine without TPM or SecureBoot, you just need to tinker the installer to trick it into installing anyway. After that, Windows will apparently run just fine, even on a computer that still uses a BIOS instead of UEFI.

A good ol' Linus Tech Tips video has more info and a tutorial on how to bypass the minimum requirements. The solutions include either editing specific registry keys, or swapping files between the Windows 11 installer and the Windows 10 one. It also includes some potential explanations about why Microsoft has these requirements in the first place.

I'll likely do a fresh install of Windows 11 on a small SSD and use one of the Windows 10 Education keys my college has allocated to me on it. I use Windows a few times a year and I don't need it around for anything other than some software and a couple of games that refuse to run under Linux (natively or with Wine/Proton).
Originally posted by erpster2


Ayyy, nice. Well, now that it’s out…

Mods, I suppose you could close this thread :)


From what I've seen of Windows 11 it seems like Microsoft is trying to be like Apple.

They've changed the location of the taskbar from the usual bottom left of the screen to the middle of the screen which just looks weird. And the power button is no longer in a Start location, it's in some settings window.

After seeing what Windows 11 seems to be like, I'm honestly okay with the fact that my computer doesn't seem to be compatible with the upgrade. I don't think I'd want it anyways.
Originally posted by RanAS
I'll likely do a fresh install of Windows 11 on a small SSD and use one of the Windows 10 Education keys my college has allocated to me on it.

I have done just that and it's working well, though I barely use it. No real complaints so far. Though I did notice how my browser's user agent string still has "(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64)" in it, even on Windows 11.

Going back to the minimum requirments ordeal, I was wondering, well why do I need a supported CPU if all the safety features that Microsoft has put into Windows 11 don't need it? Well, turns out, they're trying something called HVCI or Memory Integrity (which is also present in Windows 10 for the computers that support it) which seems to be the issue:

Originally posted by ArsTechnica
Windows 11 (and also Windows 10!) uses virtualization-based security, or VBS, to isolate parts of system memory from the rest of the system. VBS includes an optional feature called "memory integrity." That's the more user-friendly name for something called Hypervisor-protected code integrity, or HVCI. HVCI can be enabled on any Windows 10 PC that doesn't have driver incompatibility issues, but older computers will incur a significant performance penalty because their processors don't support mode-based execution control, or MBEC.

And that acronym seems to be at the root of Windows 11's CPU support list. If it supports MBEC, generally, it's in. If it doesn't, it's out. MBEC support is only included in relatively new processors, starting with the Kaby Lake and Skylake-X architectures on Intel's side, and the Zen 2 architecture on AMD's side—this matches pretty closely, albeit not exactly, with the Windows 11 processor support lists.

Even a video Microsoft posted in one of their channels clarifies what's going on with these requirements. My CPU is an Intel Core i5-6600, which puts it exactly one generation behind support for MBEC, but two generations behind Microsoft's offical "support list".

Even so, there's a few reports that even with CPUs that support MBEC, Windows 11 still carries a noticeable performance penalty compared to Windows 10. I just wonder if they're gonna make any benchmarks with CPUs that don't support MBEC so that they can measure how important having a supported CPU really is, that'd be neat to see.
This processor incompatibility is why I couldn't switch to Windows 11 even if I wanted. I have an i7-5960x, which is only like 7-ish years old and at the time was a high-end CPU. Even today, it's still incredibly capable in my opinion (8 cores/16 threads).

That being said, until Windows 11 brings back the ability to ungroup and expand tasks on the task bar, I have no intention of switching, anyways. This is incredibly essential to my work flow. I like being able to know what a task is at a single glance and being able to get everywhere with a single click. Grouping of tasks and missing names always just makes me go searching for stuff, which throws me out of the flow every time. These are simply features I can't do without.

Honestly, the only feature of Windows 11 that's even remotely interesting for me at this time is the Android emulator, and that's only because I don't have WiFi at home, so I can't use internet on my phone.

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