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What the hell happened?

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NEWS FLASH:

TNR was not responsible for the picture on the main page, it was Arbe's doing. I just wanted to get that out of the way.

Edit: Charging Chuck Get!
Originally posted by Maxx
I kinda liked Geno, but there is overwhelming proof he was involved. And liking Arbe on a site where Arbe is the main bad guy is like being in America and supporting Osama Bin Laden.


I'm sorry, but the liberal inside me really makes me want to point out that we have a freedom of worship, opinion, and speech :( I mean, will you ban me if I write this:?

SATAN FTW

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<-- this is the dope on dope
Originally posted by Parthen00b
I mean, will you ban me if I write this:?

SATAN FTW

USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST

Kieran wins. XD

Aside from that, yeah, I don't know how things work down there, so I have no say about America, eh?
Originally posted by WhiteGeko
Oh, and Lucas, she won't be coming back, there's no way on Earth SNN would allow it.

Don't blame SNN or any other single person here for Kyo "not being allowed to come back" - I doubt ANYONE on the staff wants her back after this shit. In fact, this attack would not have been possible had people not been overly nice and catering toward her and her fickle mood swings (i.e. "SMWC sucks!" "I'm on a break, but I'll moderate 20 hacks!").

Lastly, one of Kyo's major complaints about the staff the past few weeks was regarding how we were "prejudiced" against arbe because we judged him by his past actions instead of by his current character. She argued we should let him become a member again because "he had changed."

Right.

Kyo has made her bed, and now she can sleep in it - alone. Or she can surround herself with the arbe's and Yoshiro's of the world. If that's what she wants, more power to her. We don't need to be involved. And they don't need to be involved here.

For my part, I'll miss Kyo's immense helpfulness to the site and for being a pretty good online friend. It's a shame things turned out this way.

Oh, by the way, now that DarthRiko is gone forever, does anyone else want to reinstitute guest hack moderation? :P

[?] Miscellaneous Helpful Hints
If I moderated your hack, there was apparently a 90 percent chance it was rejected.
I've been at work for the past 5million hours, so now I will offer some insight to this whole debacle.

Honestly, I'm disgusted at those who conspirated the attack (Not so much at Arbe, but he's no angel either), not because it was an unwarranted attack on SMWC, but JESUS CHRIST MAN, it's the fucking internet (Pardon my french).

Many fail to realize that the purpose of this site is to PROMOTE SMW HACKING, not try and control a damn forumboard. SNN was made admin for a reason, and whether an admin's decisions are controversial or supportive, the task of the admin is to ADMINISTER SITE ORDER. You dont see anybody bitching at Blackhole on Board II or Xkeeper on Jul (Two solid, chilled out gentlemen, btw), so why pound on SNN? An admin is an admin, period. The ability to interact with users and make connections via internet are a BONUS feature of a fully functional forum/site, and not the ends of all means.

Let's leave Kaeru, Kyo, Riko, etc..., out of this for a minute, and think about the real issue here: Insecurity.

The people who called on Arbe were insecure little 12 year olds who lack the scope of what reality, in a social context, is all about. I think it's safe to say most of them annoyed the living Christ out of most of our dedicated userbase. Of course, being young children, they would want to have "ultimate power", without grasping the scope of what it means to be a site mod/admin. That would be similar to David Rockefeller appointing a 19 year old drunken frat boy to be Chariman/CEO of Chase Manhattan. (They wait till he's 50, but that's besides the point...)

A majority of the attackers are insecure kids, probably mocked by their peers in the real life. Sadly, those mocked kids try to find refuge on the internet, creating a hidden identity, and using their leveraged gift of anonymity to vent their frustrations, and develop a pseudo social circle. (We all do that, in a sense, when online, but most of us operate on a level where it doesn't encompass our lives).

You cant tell a "12 year old" (Read: 9-13 year old kids), to show empathy, because they do not know empathy. You cant tell a 12 year old to behave, and act responsibly. You cant EXPECT a 12 year old to know what power is, let alone how to attain it properly. They're no different than zoo animals. (Some may be offended by this. I do not care. Not EVERY 9-13 year old has tendencies that the site conspirators have, but I'm talking statistically, not personally. Use good judgement when interpreting the above, AND below...)

We shouldn't judge the involved conspirators harshly. After all, it could have been anyone else as well. Some of us let our emotions cloud our judgement, and when that happens, the shit hits the fan.

I remember when me and A_Yoshi were demoted. The staff had their reasons for both. I felt that my demotion was warranted, because I really was doing a shitty job as moderator. I had no qualms. Why keep me on if I didn't do my job? As I've said, one of these days, I will earn my post back legitimately, but until then, I strive to learn what I can.

But you didn't see me throw a bitch fit and complain. Why? CAUSE IT'S THE GODDAMN INTERNET!!!! What does it matter? I didn't die. I wasn't tied to a rack and had my limbs torn. I just did a shitty job, and lost the ability to change my name color, that's it. I'm no less of a person, and I am still Sagittaire.

But, others do not think like that. You've heard about the kids who killed themselves because kid A didn't get into Columbia, or kid B's girlfriend cheated on him with the whole football team. OH BOO HOOO. LET ME CALL THE WAAAAAAAAMMMMBBULANCE!

Rise above adversity. I'm a native of Jersey City. I've seen some messed up stuff, literally. (Never seen a dead body, but I almost had one time). People are messed up. You see kids carrying around knives for show, gang initiations every other month, police cars on every damn block, a ruined ghetto with cracked roads and decrepit projects. Real upbeat town...

If I let that environment bring me down, I wouldn't be here today. Take it upon yourselves to rise above stupid bullshit. If you get rejected by a date, REJOICE! Been told you're a failure? BASK IN GLORY! Fell and twisted your ankle? HOP ON ONE LEG TO A BUSSTOP WITH A SMILE ON YOUR FACE!

If you cant handle stupid drama, imagine how you'd fare in the REAL WORLD, competing against tens of thousands of other people, each with the mentality to "kill or be killed".

...and you guys bitch about an Administrative team. Geez.





But yeah, on what happened, it was truly a suprise. Kyo was the biggest shock, quite literally. As I've said to staff and regular users, I have a good eye for deception and wit, but I think it's safe to say NOT EVEN NOSTRADAMUS could have foretold Kyoseron. (Correct me if I'm wrong).

As for everyone else, I only pray that they can develop some form of character and discipline. If they stooped to this level, I can only imagine high school for them, and then COLLEGE...Jesus H.Christ.

But, AS FOR ARBE: I dont support or side with him, but I dont hate him either. I'd just wish he'd do something more productive with his hacking skills and steal funds from Microsoft or something...kid's got talent, but is using it for the wrong reasons.

Anyway, what's done is done, site's back to order, and I'm down for watching some Interior Crocodile Alligator to calm my Lewis Black-esqe agitation.

...man that was one hell of a day.

EDIT: On SNN bashing: Same applies to Smallhacker, Kieran, Techokami, and Pac (Wherever the hell he resides. =p). They run this site for a reason. Let em do what they gotta do.


So, what was the demonic picture of anyway? I missed seeing it.

(Not that I want to see it, but I'm curious enough to ask.)
Ugh i heard what DarthRiko Did from darthriko but im not going to say what he did because i said wouldnt.....
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Originally posted by Sagittaire
I'd just wish he'd do something more productive with his hacking skills and steal funds from Microsoft or something...kid's got talent, but is using it for the wrong reasons

That made me laugh big time. XD

And yeah, somehow I read it all. Asking me, Sag is one of the ones who seem mature about the whole attack thing.
Sag's right. Even though I was still kinda offended when he said "12-year-olds are like zoo animals", I still understand his point.

Have you ever tried writing a book?
Originally posted by SpaceFan645
Have you ever tried writing a book?


Funny you mention it, I actually am. xD. It's basically world economics...simplified, but NOT "For Dummies" simplified.

Should help pay college loans. =p.

ALSO:

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So, what was the demonic picture of anyway? I missed seeing it.


Trust me...you DONT wanna know...
I'm shocked about Kyo just like the rest of you, but guess what? She and I are still the best of friends, and all of you bashing/hating on her is seriously getting to me. She's had my back for almost everything on IRC and the forums. We always joked around, spamming "a" in my IRC channel trying to get the [13:37] timestamp. The conversations we had with Ersanio, Eggy, and a few others would always end up in hilarious raids rainbow text and big Mario/POW block art flooding the window. We had lots of fun.

In fact, we still do. We're still friends, and we do the same exact things that we've done before this attack. Don't be angry with me for being best friends with an attacker. She's still the fun and productive Kyo I've known for the past year, and if you can't respect that, then oh well. I've already forgiven her for this.
Originally known as A Yoshi (2006-2009), Aquifer (2010-2011), and Azurik (2012-2014).
I feel sorry for Kyo. T'was sad stuff she did.

As for Amanda/DarthRiko, good for her. I grew tired of her as soon as she flew off the handle with Mr. Egg (whoever that was).

Puts this adage into clear perspective:
"Trust your enemies, fear your friends"
Slightly well-versed on everything LinuxI'll beta-test your hack. Find me here!
Originally posted by A Yoshi
In fact, we still do. We're still friends, and we do the same exact things that we've done before this attack. Don't be angry with me for being best friends with an attacker. She's still the fun and productive Kyo I've known for the past year, and if you can't respect that, then oh well. I've already forgiven her for this.


I guess we probably could understand her better/ could also forgive her, if she would make the effort to explain her actions/ apologise.
Originally posted by A Yoshi
I'm shocked about Kyo just like the rest of you, but guess what? She and I are still the best of friends, and all of you bashing/hating on her is seriously getting to me. ... Don't be angry with me for being best friends with an attacker. I've already forgiven her for this.

I don't think anyone's going to be mad at you or anyone else that remains friends with Kyo or anyone else involved.

However, you have zero rights to be angry about people's responses to this group's flagrant disregard for other people's digital property and hard work.

[As an outrageous, over-the-top, exaggerated example - you can be friends with a member of the KKK, but don't turn around and get angry at people who get pissed off by your friends' cross-burnings and lynchings.]

If you've already forgiven Kyo for this, does that mean she apologized to you? So far, I don't know that she has extended that courtesy to this community.

In any event, the best thing would be to just keep the two groups separated. We obviously don't get along.

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If I moderated your hack, there was apparently a 90 percent chance it was rejected.
Hey.....

Geno isn't permabanned anymore!
Want proof? Geno's profile.
What happened?
Now with extra girl and extra hacker
Originally posted by Noobish Noobsicle
Hey.....

Geno isn't permabanned anymore!
Want proof? Geno's profile.
What happened?

There were some lengthy discussions in the IRC that didn't quite disprove that he was involved, but he's getting another chance anyway. Don't get too mad at him- he wasn't involved very much, if any, in the attacks.

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<---- haaa haa. [/sarcasm]
...and now Geno's banned again >_>
They lifted his permaban, not his regular ban (the one with the gray name)
Pardon my lack of knowledge of coding, but another quick technical question? Doesn't JavaScript have to be executed? As in, via actually opening a file or loading up a proper environment for it to run in? and thus shouldn't be able to be executed from a clump of code sitting in a profile/custom title?
I made a standalone game once, look for Seabug Stampede on Google Play.
Originally posted by A Yoshi
I've already forgiven her for this

Hold on - how are you keeping in contact with her?

And if I had the rights to this site, Kyo's ban would be lifted immediately. She had made one mistake that was already fixed, so now what? Keep her banned forever, yet give Geno another chance when he flames people who hate Arbe? What the hell is this even supposed to be?

(I was going to type "what is this i don't even" for the sentence, but I can't really even joke around anymore)
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