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I still don't forgive Kyoseron. Not until she explains why she did what she did. Right now I am absolutely disgusted that she would do something this pathetic. I used to think that she was a kind, funny, and helpful person. But now, after this, I'm not sure if even really knew her to begin with. :(
Red Chameleon: The people who took part in the hacking got permabanned. According to a few people, Geno didn't try to help them, so he shouldn't get permabanned for it.

His general behaviour... we'll see.

My opinion: Kyoseron can't be unbanned. What she did to the site can't be forgiven.

About one other aspect of the invasion: The Image.

Honestly, why people are still talking about the picture? Because the picture, the picture, the picture, what a picture... Aah. I don't have idea of what is that picture, I can only have imagination. These kinds of talking makes me and other people curious to ask what was that picture. What can be so shocking to see people: "I cannot forgot about the image, it was so shocking", or "That thing is still in my mind". And okay, SNN said that if we're under the age of 13, we do not need to know what was that image. Guess what? If the limit of age is 13, there must be more shocking pictures/images/etc... Because there are some kinds of things that can be "only" seen by people who are 18..

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Originally posted by Shinnok
What she did to the site can't be forgiven

Too late - I have. I've forgiven her for what happened, and I don't care if I even get banned for a week for saying this.

Oh okay man. It's my opinion, as I said before. Everyone has an opinion. You won't be banned because of this, it's an opinion of yours.

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AGAIN, ON KYO:

I understand where all of you come from, both friends of Kyo, and those in doubt of her sincerity.

While I personally dont think of Kyo as a bad person, and someone who was exceptionally kind to most she has interacted with, when it comes down to it, she messed up, and now she pays.

As I've also said, I was a varsity 215 wrestler, and a defender for my soccer team (Before my ankle incident). You can be the nicest, kindest, person in the whole world, but if you fuck your team, you're dead.

Kyo is a sweetheart when it comes down to it, but she screwed us by using the code provided by Arbe. Doesn't matter. You backstab the team, you get beaten and thrown out. That's just how it is. I didn't invent the rules. Got a problem, dig up Charles Darwin's corpse and pee on him if it bothers you that much. (AND, for the record, not even HE invented the rules).

How would you feel if you were in a group of friends, and told one of those friends a deep secret. That "friend" was known as the nicest, most trustworthy person to have ever lived. That "friend" helped organize the team, listen to problems, held parties and get togethers, and was a fun person to be around. Then, after you told this "friend" your dark secret, that person lovingly tells THE WHOLE SCHOOL about it, fries your reputation, and both of you suffer afterwards, you with your new negative image, and your "Friend" who has to live with the fact they compromised their character for GOD KNOWS whatever reason they betrayed you for.

Not saying Kyo is that "Friend", but what she did mirrors the aformentioned actions.

Let's just leave it at that.



...I'd like to suggest closing the thread, but I think there's some unanswered questions left, so until everyone's content with the situation, I'd say ask any questions you guys have left so we can be done with this nonsense.



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Originally posted by Sagittaire
Got a problem, dig up Charles Darwin's corpse and pee on him if it bothers you that much


*goes to dig up Charles Darwin's corpse so he can pee on it*
*looks at the news*

It's a good thing I took a break, if I didn't, who knows if I could tolerate the attack/drama? >_>

I'm shocked about Kyoseron, she helped me in the past with custom music. I don't have any words that describe her actions, so this quote from The Dark Knight movie will have to do:

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"You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain."

Originally posted by A Yoshi
I'm shocked about Kyo just like the rest of you, but guess what? She and I are still the best of friends, and all of you bashing/hating on her is seriously getting to me.

I have to agree with A Yoshi on this one. Many of you are looking at in a very one sided way. Sure maybe she did take part in hacking the site. Now, why did she do that?

From reading some of the staffs posts it sounds like some of them are more then happy to get ride of her rather then sad. I have my guesses that there are more to this then meets the eyes.

This post is how ever, directed at the normal users. If you don't have all the info I don't think you have much of a right to bash her.

Just my opinions of course, you're free to do what ever you want.
Originally posted by Red Chameleon
And if I had the rights to this site, Kyo's ban would be lifted immediately. She had made one mistake that was already fixed, so now what? Keep her banned forever, yet give Geno another chance when he flames people who hate Arbe? What the hell is this even supposed to be?

Geno wasn't one of the key players in the attack. Without Kyoseron's cooperation, none of this could have happened. It's fairly true to say that Kyoseron is the sole reason the attack even took place at all. Geno was just there, if he even did anything at all. It's not even clear what Geno did, if anything. There's a huge difference between Geno and Kyoseron.

I don't know what drives people to utterly forgive someone who has wronged you. Loyalty, maybe. I've never had that big a sense of undying loyalty, personally. When I'm wronged, I don't take it. I wouldn't take the fall for a friend or stand by while someone goes unpunished. Maybe that sounds selfish to you, but do you really think Kyoseron wasn't acting selfishly when she decided that the hundreds of people who enjoy this site don't matter and she should help destroy it?

You don't get out of going to jail after killing someone just because otherwise you're a nice person and donated some money to charity. And guess what? You don't get out of going to jail just because the person you killed was also a bad person and you didn't feel like going to the police. The world doesn't work that way.

I'm glad you aren't on staff. I'd hate to be around if people who try to actively bring down the site are allowed to stick around. I don't have any problems with you being friends with her, but wanting to "immediately" lift her ban? Even after admitting you've had no contact with her? Without even knowing why she did it, if she's sorry she did it, or if she has any intention to do it again, you'd want her back? Why? Because she's otherwise a nice person?

I think Kyoseron was a huge asset to the site and was very nice and helpful to a number of people, including myself. She was a huge help when testing my hack and I was looking forward to having her beta test the next version. But like I said, you don't get out of jail just because you're nice. You do something wrong, you get punished for it. That's how the world works.


wait....who the hell would want to hack a site devoted to SMW...LOL

WoW! "I hacked a site devoted to a really fucking old game, this is pathetic.


Im going to change my password before he fucks my account up... lol

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Originally posted by The riddle
Now, why did she do that?

I can say you hit the nail on the head. There is always a good reason behind something.

Oh, and about Arbe, I had said those words about him... I take them back. There is some reason, NOT for "lulz" is he hacking the site, but there is a good reason for everything.

I even feel as though this community is filled with a bunch of children now. Heck, it's a possibility if people become so childish, I may turn sides along with the rest.

This huge discussion over one simple thing that was already fixed? Childish. Foolish. Idiotic.
And even now, I wonder if Kyoseron is reading this, somewhere. Hopefully yes, seeing the truth in most of these posts...

@RC: I don't think we're really discussing. We're wondering, and making a point. Like Dispari said, you don't get out of jail (unbanned) because you were nice (nice and helpful to a lot of people). Kyoseron did what she did, and she paid for it. I am just waiting to know, someday, the reason behind all of this.
Originally posted by Red Chameleon
This huge discussion over one simple thing that was already fixed? Childish. Foolish. Idiotic.

There is no discussion. She's banned. Period. The original post didn't say "Kyoseron was banned. Discuss." It said "Kyoseron helped destroy the site. She's banned." The only discussion comes from when people like you say she should be unbanned. It's not up for debate.
I don't even really care about all of what happened. I mean, SMWC is just another ordinary site. If we need to, we'll find something else. So for us, it isn't a huge problem.

However, I pity Boom a lot. He has to go through all of this madness. His site gets attacked by people who think it's fun to ruin someone's site. To ruin something that he is responsible for, heck, even pays money for. The hackers should shame themselves. Especially those little guys like Yoshiro, who, in my opinion, aren't even worth taking part in this.

They just lack common sense. I don't care if they want certain users to get out of SMWC or something - get a life. What are you trying to do? Destroying the e-life of a person, who you don't even know? Okay, so you think he's a douche. Does that allow you, to tell what is going on on this site? Who should be here, and who not?

Too bad, common sense can't be bought. Now, I'm getting angry a bit, so I'll stop here. I should forget about it anyway, like I stated earlier.
If you think this is a bad post, I shall delete it.

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Originally posted by Dispari Scuro
Originally posted by Red Chameleon
This huge discussion over one simple thing that was already fixed? Childish. Foolish. Idiotic.

There is no discussion. She's banned. Period. The original post didn't say "Kyoseron was banned. Discuss." It said "Kyoseron helped destroy the site. She's banned." The only discussion comes from when people like you say she should be unbanned. It's not up for debate.

I meant the whole hacking, not a debate over Kyo's ban. :|
Originally posted by Dispari Scuro
I don't know what drives people to utterly forgive someone who has wronged you. Loyalty, maybe. I've never had that big a sense of undying loyalty, personally. When I'm wronged, I don't take it. I wouldn't take the fall for a friend or stand by while someone goes unpunished. Maybe that sounds selfish to you, but do you really think Kyoseron wasn't acting selfishly when she decided that the hundreds of people who enjoy this site don't matter and she should help destroy it?

Yes I get your points. The only problem I have understanding is that you think kyo have wronged every user on SMWC.

Saying I don't care about SMWC would be wrong. As I after all lurk on the site several times a day and some times post. But seeing as I knew the site would up again in a few days I don't personally have any problems with it.

Sure if kyo kicked me in the nuts I would get pissed and would not hang out with her any more. But SMWC is not my site, I'm not staff, in fact I'm a hated user that most people don't like. I don't really care much in this case.

Originally posted by Red Chameleon

Oh, and about Arbe, I had said those words about him... I take them back. There is some reason, NOT for "lulz" is he hacking the site, but there is a good reason for everything.

No arbe is doing it just for fun in case you did not know. Ask him your self.
All I have to say is: You guys need to get over it.

Kyoseron was banned. Boo hoo. It's not up to you guys to decide whether this was the appropriate action. It's the staff's. If you don't agree with it, either shut up or just leave.
Alright, let's cut it with the 'bash every user on that list' attitude. Remember, this thread is in regards to what happened, and was meant to be a mere explanation. If you have any other questions regarding it, then fine, but if it's just going to turn into a back and forth argument, then it will have to be closed.

Thanks.
Originally posted by Boingboingsplat
If you don't agree with it, either shut up or just leave.

Does this mean I'm not coming back? I am not going to shut up since I am speaking what I think! I should be able to talk as much as you. Why is it that we cannot speak what we want to?
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