Coin You Dig It? UPDATE

This will more than likely eventually evolve into a thread for my full, proper hack, once I work out exactly what direction I want to go with the gameplay and graphics.

So for now, this is the official thread of Moot's revolving door of ideas, with screenshots etc.

I want to know your opinions on this level:
Coin You Dig It?


EDIT: Play the new version! Coin You Dig It? Version 2.0

It's either:
-A cool idea that's not been overused
-A tedious, boring exercise that you hate
-Something that would never make it in a real hack

*EDIT: THIS IS NOT KAIZO! I don't do Kaizo.*

I'll let you decide which one it feels like to you.

I personally find it fun, but it's possible that I'm crazy. You might hate it. Play the level and let me know your thoughts...I'm pretty sure this will be one of those polarizing things; you'll either really dig it, or you'll hate it.

Screenshots:


Yeah, it's the same OW from my Vanilla Level Design Contest entry.


The entrance to the coin block maze.


So close! But not close enough.

I welcome your comments...I encourage you to try the level, and not just comment on the screenshots, since, visually, it is just a wall of coin question blocks.

I'd love to see some TASes (or REAL speedruns) of this level.

Thanks!
MooT





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It's actually not nearly as bad as it seems. You can easily solve it within the time limit (I'm pretty sure anyway). It's really no different than an invisible-block maze, only, you've got all these imposing "?" blocks in your face the whole time.

Also, there's no abuse of any map16 yet, and that's all I will say, lest I reveal the not-terribly-secret secret.

IIRC, the only places that you can die in this maze are:
-two small pits
-the muncher ceiling
-blue koopa kicking a shell at you toward the end of the level

So it's not too devious. If I can beat it without cheating, and I more or less suck at puzzles/anything hard, then I know other people won't have too much trouble- if they proceed with caution.
(I mean, c'mon, you can reveal a lot of the maze just by hitting the blocks!)

MooT





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Well you know, that was my original intention, but when I was done, I liked it so much that I decided to get y'alls opinions on how legit of an idea it is.
But if you feel like it's jokey, then I'm going to work it into my in-progress joke hack!

Ladies and Gentlemen, this level is bound for the joke hack thread.

(Did you beat the level and get to Yoshi's house? Now THAT's a joke!)

MooT





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But yeah, it is kinda bright. I don't find it too bad, but I guess some people are more sensitive to that sort of thing than I am.

To recolor the ? blocks, do I have to use YY-CHR? The palette seems to be hardcoded for them. I'm thinking of making them darker/dimmer.

MooT

EDIT: Level UP!





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Oh, OK. That makes perfect sense. (Thanks BTW)

And also, yeah, a ? block maze is all it is, which is why I'd love to see how fast someone can solve it. There are several twists and turns, and quite a few dead ends, but it's not that complex of a maze. Basically it goes counterclockwise from start to finish.

MooT





My life has not involved SMW hacking for the past several months...I still love you guys though!
Enter the musical world of Moot Booxlé.
My last name is pronounced Boox-LEE, like...um...Bruce Lee. Check this out.
Funkatized layout courtesy of Awesome (aka Counterfeit)

Thanks for the TAS, Patgangster! (You totally turned off Layer 2, didn't you?)

Did you find it fun, or just meh?

That was FAST!

MooT





My life has not involved SMW hacking for the past several months...I still love you guys though!
Enter the musical world of Moot Booxlé.
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That's amazing, considering the fact that it is a bunch of ? blocks.
And the glitched up sphere was intentional, using the Mecha-Koopa sprite index...Makes it look like the disco ball light thing. As I said earlier, my original intent was to put this in the joke hack thread, but after I was done, I thought it was worth getting some people's opinions on how "legit" it could be before relegating it to a jokey joke. The actual ROM name is "JOKEY.SMC"!

This version of it, I'm pretty sure, will most likely go into that thread.

@Aquamentus: Thanks for that mockup you did. I see what you're going for, but I have a couple of problems with it: one, since it's no longer a ? block thing, the name, and therefore, the gimmick, would need to be changed. Secondly, those blocks only become solid after being hit, which I think adds a ton of difficulty to something that is already on the brink of tedium.
The solid walls: very good idea. I will definitely make that happen. Anything I can do to make this more interesting and less tedious is a plus.
The green star blocks on Layer 2 look nice and easy on the eyes, but again, it kinda blows the gimmick.
What if I changed all of these ? blocks to have dimmer graphics and no ExAnimation? In order to keep the ? block factor at 100%, I could make another version of ? block for the solid walls that would obviously be a ? block, but look different enough to indicate that it was a wall, such as flipping the palette on it.
Thoughts?

MooT

PS: Thanks Kaizoman666 for the 2nd TAS! I think you were faster






My life has not involved SMW hacking for the past several months...I still love you guys though!
Enter the musical world of Moot Booxlé.
My last name is pronounced Boox-LEE, like...um...Bruce Lee. Check this out.
Funkatized layout courtesy of Awesome (aka Counterfeit)

That's an even better idea! I don't know why I didn't think to do that so the player couldn't cheat by turning off Layer 2 (looks at Patgangster >_> LOL)! I knew I was running a risk by putting the non-Mario-interactive ? blocks all on Layer 2.
Thanks for that, man.

@Patgangster - I'm glad you found it to be original. I was really worried that I was doing something that had been done 6.02x10^23 times. And yeah, this is kinda one of those gimmicks that might be cool one time, but wouldn't have too much appeal if repeated, especially not in the same hack. I don't want to have any levels where the player goes, "Ohh...it's one of those..." like a lot of the gimmicks that are played out now (SMB1 remakes, running under 50 thwomps, etc).

And you know, yours just seemed faster, but my method for determining that was completely unscientific...and illogical...I didn't even look at the timer! Durrr! So until somebody gets all techy techy on it, we can call it a tie. A photo finish.

Thanks you guys.

MooT





My life has not involved SMW hacking for the past several months...I still love you guys though!
Enter the musical world of Moot Booxlé.
My last name is pronounced Boox-LEE, like...um...Bruce Lee. Check this out.
Funkatized layout courtesy of Awesome (aka Counterfeit)