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impossible without savestates?
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are some hacks truely impossible to beat without a savestate or savepoint? becuz i want to buy a SNESpowerpak to play hacks with on my SNES could you guys name some hack i should stay clear of if they are impossible to beat without savestates

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Well, nothings really impossible to beat without savestates, but many are very difficult to beat without savestates. For one, stay away from any kaizo hacks. If you're really good at playing hacks, you'll probably be fine with the tsrp games, but you might want to go with the easy version if you play the first one, and if you're not that great, you'll have difficulty. Super challenge world is a bad idea unless you're really good. Rob-omb's quest hard version I would not recommend without savestates because it sometimes sends you into a room where the only way out is death. You could give the easy version a shot though, I haven't tried it. Most of these are older hacks though, I haven't played too many hacks recently.

How can you tell what a kaizo hack and a trsp hack is?

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Originally posted by russsrox11
How can you tell what a kaizo hack and a trsp hack is?


TSRP (and not TRSP) means "The second reality project", it's a series of hacks, you can recognise them by their names.

A Kaizo hack is a verry dificult hack that has a lot of unfair segments and sometimes require to abuse glitches. There are no such hacks in the hack seccion, so you shouldn't worry about those.
Yeah most of the Kaizo on this site is here, though a few hacks in the Hacks sections have secret areas that are Kaizo-ish.

To answer the topic's initial question though, there's no such thing as a hack that's only possible with savestates and not without. You will have to do tons of backtracking and make tons of near-impossible manuvers in order to pass though, so pretty much :^)

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Originally posted by I8Strudel
there's no such thing as a hack that's only possible with savestates and not without.


Clearly YOU have not played a Pit Hack

Try the VIP & WALL Mix series savestateless. It's heavy on the ASM (sorta), but it's quite satisfying when you beat it.

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Theoretically, any hack can be beaten without savestates because so long as there's an exit and a way to reach it, it's beatable.

Realistically however, if a hack is designed in such a way that it requires split-second timing and pixel-perfect precision to get past obstacles, then it is pretty much impossible for any human reflexes to be able to overcome them without tool assistance. Similarly, repeatedly using unfair traps like requiring a player to jump into a tile between spikes/clappers or through a particular spot that won't trigger an invisible block may drive the player into using savestates.

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