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Why does this person, who obviously has a decent level of technical skills... decide to try and work on other people's projects without their permission instead of creating something original for themself?

Remember that apology said that he did it for publicity. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that he's doing it again for the same reason, or someone else is?
Originally posted by cheat-master30
Especially if they really did code that awesome piranha plant boss from the fake VIP 6 level 'Astronomical Disaster'. That thing is almost endboss material..

The fake carol that put that in didn't code it, he stole it from SMWCP2.
So, people are also still wondering about this...

Maybe, that Carol impersonator doesn't want credit, but simply damaging Carol's reputation?
Nobody knows what is real anymore after all.
I've been busting ass as of recent and tried looking up stuff. I wasn't sure if people would get mad at me for opening up a thread here on SMW Central, so I posted all my findings to the Brutal Mario wiki page.

Kinda flooded the site, actually. :(

http://brutalmario.wikia.com/wiki/Demos#comm-5460


Originally posted by Meirdent
Originally posted by cheat-master30
Especially if they really did code that awesome piranha plant boss from the fake VIP 6 level 'Astronomical Disaster'. That thing is almost endboss material..

The fake carol that put that in didn't code it, he stole it from SMWCP2.



About that... I'm not sure, but I guess I spotted the fake Carol on Youtube. Not sure though.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGNfkTrMT1rlADm2zAV_qWg


What is weird is, that he uploaded one of these fake videos about Brutal Mario.
Judging from the comments, he probably claimed it to be ''real footage'', either on Youtube in the description, changing it afterwards after people found out about the hoax, or on another site, maybe even with a different username.

Why I'm bringing this up is, because you guys might want to check out his Google+ profile.


https://plus.google.com/103631976903695336586/posts

I thought Doc Croc wasn't supposed to be used in other hacks until SMWCP 2 was finished. Could this guy be the culprit?
I couldn't find out that much about the whole Carol impersonator thing at all, nor if Brutal Mario is actually still in development, or being canceled... it would be nice if you could share your knowledge with me, if you wouldn't mind. :/
by japanese forum Carol probably meant 2ch's Tips and Tricks/Hacking and Modding board
aka the place where all the SMW, SMB1-3, Metroid, Megaman, etc hacking threads are at

I ran into Carol's Nicovideo account once, the description basically translated to "I'm only here to watch videos. On my spare time I work on my Mario hack, Brutal Mario, make Yaruo threads, and speedrun games." and then their best times on a few games like CT and Rudra

Carol's probably still working on it, progress is probably just going slowly because it's just a hobby, something that they only work every now and then

Plus I'm pretty sure they have work and all that so they probably don't have all that much motivation to work on the hack most of the time

Just wait warmly, ok?

Yaruo threads seem to be basically just AA threads on Newsoku (2ch's news board) involving Newsoku de Yaruo (an AA chara, also the Chargin' Chuck replacement in the later VIPs)

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I have no clue how to navigate through 2chan, to be honest.
But, I probably won't find anything interesting there either, doubt anyone knows more than we do regarding BM.
Megaman hacking sounds interesting though, wished that Megaman X editor would be picked up again, but I disgress. #tb{^V^}

The question is just, if this description is outdated, or not.
I too have, for example, a lot of games listed on my Youtube channel that I will most likely never start making Let's Plays of, so there is that.
But, who knows if it's the same thing with Carol (and even then, why would anyone, me included, even bother?).

You think so?
I got told to ask cheat-master30 and Sayuri for further information, in case I want to know.
But, when reading this, somehow I feel like I shouldn't ask too much about Brutal Mario... I feel like people here will start to have a grudge against me if I do so.

Well, it's legit that people have work and stuff. I doubt Carol's entire existence is just for Brutal Mario and fancy ASM in general.
I just feel like we (we = the English SMW hacking community) did something terribly wrong... imagine your hack would be uploaded somewhere without your permission, being translated, people making a fuss over it for literally years, even going so far as to hack into your account for trivial or non-existant reasons and THEN, the bitching goes on.

I just feel sorry for Carol... wished I could show him my sympathy somehow, things really started to go to shit when this whole impersonation thing started. :/

Thanks for answering my questions.

Edit: Ironically enough, the user who told me to inquire specific users here for more information just started another wikipage at the BM wikia.

http://brutalmario.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Theonesuperx/The_Search_for_Carol_and_Brutal_Mario..or_what_happend_to_it.
Originally posted by animeloverxX93
I have no clue how to navigate through 2chan, to be honest.
But, I probably won't find anything interesting there either, doubt anyone knows more than we do regarding BM.
Megaman hacking sounds interesting though, wished that Megaman X editor would be picked up again, but I disgress. #tb{^V^}

they're mostly just posting about vip 6 on the smw hacking threads

they're currently working on bowser's castle
the other levels are all pretty much done (except for the secret level, see: Missingno., Area 52, etc; that one's probably going to be a collab stage like bowser's castle)

Originally posted by animeloverxX93
The question is just, if this description is outdated, or not.
I too have, for example, a lot of games listed on my Youtube channel that I will most likely never start making Let's Plays of, so there is that.
But, who knows if it's the same thing with Carol (and even then, why would anyone, me included, even bother?).

you need a nico account to view vids and comment so i'd imagine carol would probably update it if he ever stopped working on it

Originally posted by animeloverxX93
You think so?
I got told to ask cheat-master30 and Sayuri for further information, in case I want to know.
But, when reading this, somehow I feel like I shouldn't ask too much about Brutal Mario... I feel like people here will start to have a grudge against me if I do so.

the issue isn't asking about brutal mario
it's constantly badgering people over things they can't really answer

Originally posted by animeloverxX93
Well, it's legit that people have work and stuff. I doubt Carol's entire existence is just for Brutal Mario and fancy ASM in general.
I just feel like we (we = the English SMW hacking community) did something terribly wrong... imagine your hack would be uploaded somewhere without your permission, being translated, people making a fuss over it for literally years, even going so far as to hack into your account for trivial or non-existant reasons and THEN, the bitching goes on.

I just feel sorry for Carol... wished I could show him my sympathy somehow, things really started to go to shit when this whole impersonation thing started. :/

Thanks for answering my questions.

carol probably doesn't really care too much about it

Originally posted by animeloverxX93
Edit: Ironically enough, the user who told me to inquire specific users here for more information just started another wikipage at the BM wikia.

http://brutalmario.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Theonesuperx/The_Search_for_Carol_and_Brutal_Mario..or_what_happend_to_it.

superx please calm down

(also sayuri is a girl please don't misgender her)

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Originally posted by Leomon
they're mostly just posting about vip 6 on the smw hacking threads

they're currently working on bowser's castle
the other levels are all pretty much done (except for the secret level, see: Missingno., Area 52, etc; that one's probably going to be a collab stage like bowser's castle)


I've never really gotten into the VIP series, to be honest.
It just seemed weird to me. I also don't like it when memes are being used in hacks.
But, good to know, maybe I will get into the series in the future. #ab{:)}

Originally posted by Leomon
the issue isn't asking about brutal mario
it's constantly badgering people over things they can't really answer


Well, they are rumored to be able to answer. That's why I would ask, if I'd do that now. There couldn't be any other way to know other than asking them and also mentioning why you exactly talk to that person regarding the specific subject, right?
Otherwise, you wouldn't know, and there is no workaround I know of to not annoy people with that (even if I don't want to make them intentionally mad).
That's just hypothetical though, I guess I will refrain from asking several people now. Already asked a single person two days ago or so, everything in moderation.


Originally posted by Leomon
carol probably doesn't really care too much about it


How do you come to this conclusion, and why would someone NOT care about having his account hacked?
Well, I can see your point though, he barely was active here, as far as I know... but that doesn't change anything after all, what happened is still bad in the end.
I guess the rumors about him not really caring much at all about the English romhack community might be true after all, it would explain things atleast to a degree.

Originally posted by Leomon
superx please calm down

(also sayuri is a girl please don't misgender her)


Eh, tell HIM. #thp{>_<3}
I understand him though... he could have refrained from mentioning people hating him after all, it doesn't add to the subject.
I didn't know that Sayuri was female and will refer to her with female pronouns then, sorry about that.
Well, umm...Forgive me for statement. Also.I will stop updating that blog for now...

- Theonesuperx/Evol/Buried Alive/Lupie
As far as I know (based on carol's last email), Brutal Mario is still in development. But this email was about a year and a half ago, so whether it's changed since then we may never know.

He wouldn't be the first person to quit SMW hacking these last few years...

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Originally posted by cheat-master30
As far as I know (based on carol's last email), Brutal Mario is still in development. But this email was about a year and a half ago, so whether it's changed since then we may never know.

He wouldn't be the first person to quit SMW hacking these last few years...


Really?
Hmm... maybe my impression about the SMW hacking community was correct after all.
I had a feeling that people were/are moving to other things.

By the way, I found the infamous ''edited by me'' demo of Brutal Mario.
Does anyone know about that?

Link

Ironically enough, now the download link is dead.
Lucky me. :P

However, I got it originally from this URL:

[REMOVED]

I don't know how to make an .ips, the ROM game as a .smc.

Mod edit: Please don't link ROM files.
So I've been playing some VIP 6... let me tell you that this game is hard as heck.

Basically, they've just finished most of what I assume is going to be Bowser's Castle. Bad enough? Oh wait, there's about 25 rooms in this place (1-F and then to about 17) and even the easiest is brutally unforgiving.

Some descriptions I posted on the Talkhaus:

Room 0: Boo Block platforms that appear and disappear in a hallway of blue fire. It's gonna be annoying, but it's by no means the hardest room here...

Room 1: A lava room with looping apples that fall from the ceiling continuously. Pretty simple, but the sprites are used in some very clever ways.

Room 2: Traditional SMW castle with Thwomps, Thwimps and spikes

Room 3: Weird puzzle block room where arrows divert the paths of Bullet Bills. It's very cool as a concept, even if the blocks and ASM setup is likely fairly simple.

Room 4: Underwater skewer room with fire everywhere. It's an interesting contrast, done with an absolutely eye burning palette.

Room 5: Weird looping underwater section where you have to solve a key related puzzle or end up back at the start.

Room 6: Puzzle land with snake blocks. Hit the invisible blocks to make a path for the snake to follow. Use triangles to run up moving snake blocks. That kind of neat thing.

Room 7: Atari style puzzle room with solid colour blocks and gimmicks. Looks very retro.

Room 8: An awesome layer 2 smasher room... where the smasher changes layout/design every five seconds. It's like a long room of different smashing traps are being wheeled into place as you go...

Room 9: A vertical scrolling tower somewhat akin to Castle Crush from Donkey Kong Country. Sort of.

Room A: Familiar pipe based room with Chucks and Fire Piranhas.

Room B: Nice looking church where Magikoopas try and fry Mario over a pit of rose Munchers. There's got to be a meaning there somewhere!

Room C: Piranha Plant and net based castle room, with oddly distracting moving background.

Room D: Climb a tower with weird spinning diagonal platforms. Pretty interestingly done.

Room E: Ride an elevator machine up a tower while avoiding mini Clown Cars dropping cannonballs.

Room F: Boss Bass returns, in a water themed castle room with a moving platform. Fun times?

Room 10: An icy warehouse, with Ninjis and Jungle enemies. No logic here.

Room 11: Layer 2 water area, with Rip Van Fish and Dolphins.

Room 12: Underwater tank fleet in a castle hallway. This is weird as hell.

Room 13: P Balloon castle level. With a very, very awkwardly moving Mario. Fun?

Room 14: Puzzle room made of those blocks meant to give you a 1-Up for collecting 30 coins in a level.

Room 15: Gold VIP style castle, with a demonic spider gone ballistic enemy known as 'Mother'. Tries to blast Mario with homing bullets, flames and explosions while flooding the room and chasing him through platform hell. Raocow will lose about 99 lives in this room, I guarantee it.

Room 16: Flappy Mario from hell. Lots of spike platforms come at Mario lightning fast from off screen and he has jump through the gaps perfectly. It's hard as all heck, and so bad that a half hour death montage of raocow's failures in this rom would be nowhere near enough to demonstrate the worst of the level.

Room 17: Thwimps meet Grinders on lines. It's fairly simple, unlike the others. But also hard.

Room 18 (likely only accessible after beating some of the previous 17 rooms): It's not done. Just a test room.

Gimmicks are amazing. Level design is borderline Kaizo... or maybe just plain Kaizo.

Want hell? This thing:



It can shoot magic. It can shoot homing bullets. It can shoot rotating bullets. Blast you with fireballs, use boomerangs. Flood and unflood the entire room. Kick footballs from thin air. Shoot you with ultra fast projectiles aimed directly at Mario's head.

And it hunts you down relentless. It cannot be killed or knocked back, even with a star. Basically, it's a Phanto or Koopa Elite turned Terminator esque psycho.

Did I mention that it's easy to find online? Or that the sprite apparently works with no major issues without patches or custom blocks? Oh god that's terrifying. I do not want to see a world in which this custom sprite has become something you see in every single Mario hack. I mean, it could even make Yoshi's Island 1 a challenge...

Welcome to VIP 6's Temple of Homing gone I Wanna Be the Guy.

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YO NERDS

long story short there was a guy on youtube going "hey im a brootel murrio tester carol's still working on it" and cm30 went to carol and said "hey carol there's this dude on youtube and we don't know if he's lying or not" and carol was like "yo brah the dude's totes lyin' to ya but i'm still workin' on it here's how 1-1 looks like now in web 2.0" and then he gave this to cm30 yesterday

screenshots (courtesy of cheat-master30):

title screen (no title demo because i'm p sure that level's gonna get remade)


ENGLISH #wow #whoa


something about coins


whoa red


OMG INFLATION FETISHES?!?!?!??!?!? wtf no this is just a pipe cannon thingy
(it breaks through walls/ceilings)


a demonstration of its vast and immeasurable power

i won't post the download until carol gives cm30 permission (he asked carol for it, he is awaiting a response), sorry

also according to cm30 carol changed their email (they gave it to cm30) so i don't think they'll check [email protected] much anymore soz

have phun

yeah

(while writing this post i kept reading it in FrankJavCee's voice)
(watch his HOW TO MAKE ____ vids they're super good and funny i totes recommend)
(the future funk, deep house, nightcore and vaporwave vids are my faves)
(watch out for the ryuko matoi at around 1:54 in the deep house vid)

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@Leomon: What the hell you're showing this.
I want to clarify you one thing:

BRUTAL MARIO IS DEAD!!

Unless that you prove me wrong with a link, everyone will believe that the screenshots are fake.
Originally posted by Roberto zampari
@Leomon: What the hell you're showing this.
I want to clarify you one thing:

BRUTAL MARIO IS DEAD!!

Unless that you prove me wrong with a link, everyone will believe that the screenshots are fake.

have a crappy gameplay video
https://youtu.be/UodehgG6Rwc

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Carol is alive?

If Brutal Mario is still alive, then only one level is re-made?
Or there's more of it?
Aww hell yeah. This is why I worship cheat-master30.

e: the cringe
If you do find this demo by sheer luck, please don't redistribute it

If you'll recall, Carol's post re:Buried Alive leaking demoOnly1 was
Originally posted by carol
I don't want you to redistribute my poor demo.

It has no quality and volume for public release.

Keep this in mind and avoid spreading the ips file

If you happen to find it on your own, congrats
Keep it to yourself

Originally posted by Kitaoji Satsuki
EDIT: No point doing spam via PM because I'm not going to send it to you.

you're a good kid

Originally posted by Roberto zampari
If Brutal Mario is still alive, then only one level is re-made?
Or there's more of it?

Carol's remaking the levels he thinks have poor level design, however due to a lack of free time (work and what not I'm assuming), progress is going rather slowly

CM30 posted the email he got on the Brutal Mario wiki, that's how I know:
Originally posted by cheat-master30
The response was basically (email and link redacted):

Hi, Cheat-master30 .

I don’t know SirArsen from Adam.

BTW, I am remaking poor levels at a very slow pace.
The new 1-1 sample is here.
[removed]

And notification:
Old email address <[email protected]> is useless due to spam mails.

New address is [removed]

Thank you.

The email address and DL link redactions were by cm30

Originally posted by S.R.H.
Aww hell yeah. This is why I worship cheat-master30.

RESISTING URGE TO WRITE SLASHFIC

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Tried my luck and got the link at the first try. Never expected it to be so easy.

Anyway, I'm happy to see the hack that got me in to this is still being worked on. The demo seems to have some interesting stuff, but I can't really say much since most of the new things are rather simple. I'm very interested in that level up system though.
Originally posted by Masterlink
I'm very interested in that level up system though.

Apparently level ups will be obtained in shops run by Vivian from Paper Mario TTYD (along with hints and upgrades)

This was included in the Athletic Special demo, however only World 1 (Yoshi's House), World 2 (It's Moldy Within the Hollow (aka "Acceptable Cave" according to the old English patch on here)) and the Special World (the Top Secret Area/life farm, same as the one in the cheep demo) have doors to her shops so far

Roberto PMed Carol about this some years back

They haven't decided what to do with it

A secret to everybody

Originally posted by Roberto zampari
5)How work the RPG levels?

Originally posted by carol
I don't decide yet. Maybe, fireball speed is faster, invincible time is longer, and damge to bosses is larger.


i haven't played ff9 in days and that annoys me a lot more than it should


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