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Super Mario All-Stars Wii: Meh

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All I can say to this is, "Really, Nintendo?" The original Mario All-Stars was great. Why not take a bunch of classic games, update them for a newer console, and release them as a single game? Great! That's why when I heard that Nintendo had made an All-Stars for the Wii, I was excited as a guy could be.
But I was to be let down. This was NOT a version of the classic games with NSMBW graphics. Instead, Nintendo's thrown together a package that's really just a Virtual Console port of SMAS on a disc. Sure it includes a "History Booklet" but honestly, I think I know my history of Mario pretty well, thank you. And who the hell wants a soundtrack CD when the music is all over the internet?!
What Nintendo should have done was remake SMB, SMB2 (aka SMUSA), SMB3, SMB:LL (aka SMB2), and SMW all on a single Wii disc. And it should be done with tweaked versions of the NSMBW engine. That would be awesome! And maybe some remixed music while we're at it. I'd always dreamed of when Nintendo would do just that, but alas, it doesn't seem like it's happening.
In fact, I'd really rather just boot up Riivolution on my Wii with some NSMBW custom level remakes of the classic games than buy this. Sure, there's no raccoon suit/cape, and SMB2 doesn't really work, but that's what the Virtual Console's for, people!

tl;dr:
SMAS for the Wii is a way for Nintendo to make a quick buck with very little work. They're just Virtual Console games on disc.
Interesting idea, but don't forget about adding some of the other platformers. SML, SML2, and YI, are the ones off the top of my head. Maybe some other games like Hotel Mario SM64.
Glad to know I'm not the only one who sees this as superfluous. I don't think it's necessary that a SNES Rom is ported to a Wii disc unchanged. I mean the 1993 on the title screen is still the same. My friend was going through the tracks list on the soundtrack a while back on Skype, most of which songs people don't like. They should have put SMB1, SMB2US, SMB2JP, SMB3, SMW and YI on it, at least people would get their money's worth. Spare me the "then it wouldn't be SMAS" speech.
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Originally posted by User #10828
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tl;dr:
SMAS for the Wii is a way for Nintendo to make a quick buck with very little work. They're just Virtual Console games on disc.


This. I was earnestly disappointed in the game (Not that I'd tell my parents that, but...) They should have included SMW, The Mario Land Games (The Originals) and Yoshi's Island, along with Mario Bros. arcade and maybe even Donkey Kong.


-Ho ho ho
1994: Nintendo goes out their way to not only port the 4 most current games in the Super Mario Bros. series to the SNES, but with a redone engine and improved graphics, soundtrack, saving and everything else that can be updated to reflect upon the SNES power.

2001-2003: Nintendo release a series of games (Super Mario Advance series) based around remakes of their (then) 6 most current games in the Super Mario Bros. series (all the ones that the GBA can handle) with new levels, more replay value, updated physics, DLC's and much, much, more.

2010: A lazy port of Super Mario All-Stars with little to no work put into it.

This is Mario's birthday game for heavens sake#w{x(}
I think Myamoto, Iwata, and (sigh) Fils-Aime have gone a bit funny in the head. They seem to suffer under the misconception that slapping the word "Mario" on something will make it an instant best-seller.

I hope this game fails, for their sake.
Originally posted by Camerin Neede
They seem to suffer under the misconception that slapping the word "Mario" on something will make it an instant best-seller.


But it does. And that's why this is happening.
Can't really say there's anything incorrect about their strategy here.

There's kids who have never played Super Mario All Stars, or not all the games on it. They'll ask for the disc for Christmas because it says Mario on it, even more so if they somehow are aware that old 2-D platformer Mario games are quality stuff.

There's people who sort of like platformers and already played most of Super Mario All Stars. Even with tons of new content they couldn't be convinced to revisit the games. They'll buy Super Mario Galaxy 9 if it reviews well though, so Nintendo better pump some effort into that.

And then there's fans of the platformer genre that populate this forum that would love to buy the all stars game if it even had a few more levels. Some of them accidentally buy the thing anyway because the GBA games actually delivered new content, and the remaining few aren't worth the effort of improving the game.



Facts are, bottled water makes tooons of money.
Originally posted by Camerin Neede
I think Myamoto, Iwata, and (sigh) Fils-Aime have gone a bit funny in the head. They seem to suffer under the misconception that slapping the word "Mario" on something will make it an instant best-seller.

I hope this game fails, for their sake.


Nintendo just took the first step into darkness. Personally I think they are overdoing it with the casual now too....

Yeah, I was hoping that it would be remade nsmbw style, but Nintendo didn't so much as add a few extra features in. But I guess it's ok for those that have never played the games before.
Originally posted by Tuxedo Goomba
But I guess it's ok for those that have never played the games before.


For them they could have released it on Virtual console instead =/
I've actually decided that I really like this thread, but that it would do better in Gaming.

I'll just move it and PM the OP to let him know.
Originally posted by Sind
Originally posted by Tuxedo Goomba
But I guess it's ok for those that have never played the games before.


For them they could have released it on Virtual console instead =/

When you are younger then 18 and don't have a credit card and you have parents who don't want to buy it, it's not that easy.
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There's always the Nintendo Point cards.

I probably won't get this game, considering I have both SMAS and SMW on the SNES.
I actully like this SMAS wii thing they did.
Many people who played mario when they were little and dont illegally emulate roms will buy it. Mario games are really good so even if I causual gamer bought this they would enjoy it.

I think a NSMBW overall wouldnt be good. All games had a unique style of GFX so re doing it in a modern style would kill it, imo.

I got mine for £20 quid, I would of spent that on buying a points card to actully buy the game if it came on virtual console, so in either way Im still paying the same price.
Originally posted by Crobat the Grinch
There's always the Nintendo Point cards.

I probably won't get this game, considering I have both SMAS and SMW on the SNES.

Yeah.. But They don't sell them where I live..
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Originally posted by brokeNCYDE<3
Originally posted by Sind
Originally posted by Tuxedo Goomba
But I guess it's ok for those that have never played the games before.


For them they could have released it on Virtual console instead =/

When you are younger then 18 and don't have a credit card and you have parents who don't want to buy it, it's not that easy.



Emulator? #w{=P}


and from the other thread:
Originally posted by me
This to me seems pointless.
i have SMAS on SNES, and have the NES originals on VC.
I can listen to the music on Youtube if i really wanted too, and the booklet i could probably get whats inside online :P

+these games have been re-released so many times now.. they lost the nostalgic value longlong ago :/
Originally posted by Tomato
Many people who played mario when they were little and dont illegally emulate roms will buy it.


Virtual Console.

Originally posted by Tomato
casual gamer bought this they would enjoy it.


This is probably a bit too hard for casual gamers. :/

Originally posted by Tomato
I think a NSMBW overall wouldnt be good. All games had a unique style of GFX so re doing it in a modern style would kill it, imo.


-.-

You basically just said that when SMAS was originally released for the SNES the graphical updates killed it.

It would've been good if they updated the graphics to be more modern while still keeping the feeling of the original games. And added SMW, YI, and SML1-2. But I'll just stick to emulating SMAS for now.
Good fucking bye.
I really DO fail to see how SMAS Limited Edition is so terrible. Yes, they could've released it on VC, but that's not the point. They could've updated the game's visuals and thrown in more games, but that's obviously not the point, either. What IS the point? I'm not sure anymore, but if I had to take a guess, it would probably be simply to celebrate SMB's 25th Anniversary with SMAS, since it contains the original four SMB games.

Think about it this way, guys: You're actually paying for the music CD and history booklet, which contains behind-the-scenes stuff. Sure, they could've released SMAS on the VC anyways and sold the extras seperately, but instead, they've bundled them all. Seems like a fair deal to me. Plus, what was stated before about it giving the newer generation of gamers a look into the past they missed is true.

Also yes, we have all the games in SMAS on VC in NES form, but SMAS has its own charm that you can't get with the originals.

All that said, I picked up my copy of the game the day it came out. Now I just have to wait until Christmas to play it. :D

...By the way, comment to those of you hating on Nintendo and hoping this flops just because they didn't give us something new: First, this will never flop, because what was said about the Mario games is true, and Nintendo knows this. It's quite obvious they use this to their advantage to help sell their games, and it's not necessarily a bad thing, as I've not known Nintendo to throw out a terrible Mario game in years. Second, this isn't going to kill Nintendo, they're like a zombie. No matter what mistakes they make and no matter what flops, they bounce back and make a killing. I mean, look at the Wii. They were doomed before the generation even started. :P And yet look how successful the Wii is. :D Nintendo is smart, they know to how to keep their fans happy.

Lastly, Nintendo's a company. If they want to stay in business, they kinda have to focus on the money a good bit. Yeah, they're after our money. Big deal, so're all the other companies in the world. :/ They just happen to focus on quality and ensuring their fans have fun with their games, because otherwise, they get no money. No money means no Nintendo.

No Nintendo means no Mario. ;_;
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Originally posted by Crobat the Grinch
There's always the Nintendo Point cards.

I probably won't get this game, considering I have both SMAS and SMW on the SNES.


The Nintendo Point cards are a rip off where I am. 1000 Wii Points is £7 on the Wii Shop Channel but a 2000 Points Card costs £19.99! WTF?!
Buying 2000 on the Shop Channel is cheaper.
Originally posted by MarioFan22
Originally posted by Crobat the Grinch
There's always the Nintendo Point cards.

I probably won't get this game, considering I have both SMAS and SMW on the SNES.


The Nintendo Point cards are a rip off where I am. 1000 Wii Points is £7 on the Wii Shop Channel but a 2000 Points Card costs £19.99! WTF?!
Buying 2000 on the Shop Channel is cheaper.


Huh? I mean, i live in the same country as you (England), and these are the prices:

- 1000 = £9
- 2000 = £18
- 3000 = £27

Atleast that's what i've seen in the shops anyway.
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