Lunar Magic suggestions and discussion (LM v2.52)

I remember there being a glitch where, if two overworld maps have different ExGFX files and the game switches between the submaps in 2-player mode to show a player in a different submap, the GFX files wouldn't update. Has that been fixed?

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Kinda in hibernation for a while. I hope to be back in full swing soon.

It got relocated to the background editor; just press the bright green leaf option while inside it.

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There are no plans for it at the moment.



Yes.



As it says in the updates list, this version adds an ASM hack that reloads the overworld (which includes the GFX) when switching between players that aren't on the same submap.



It did cross my mind, but some things would have to be adjusted to do it. The question is, are enough people interested in using it?



When pasting from the windows clipboard, LM always pastes into the upper left corner of the window. While you could scroll down until the top left corner is within the submaps, it's kind of pointless since you can just drag it down there after pasting anyway.

Note that if it's a large area you're moving, you have to move the mouse down far enough so that the whole area will move into the submaps, as there's a small horizontal strip of 8x8 tiles between the main map and the submaps that gets in the way.

I always wanted a built-in hex editor in Lunar Magic it would be awesome to have that.

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Minor complaint, but would it be possible to optimize the fill operation by using z-ordering? Right now, if you have, say, a donut-shaped hole to fill, it creates 4 separate tiles to fill it, while it could use a single tile stretched to cover the whole thing, with z-ordering to make it show under everything.

Yeah, very, very minor and pointless, but I really can't use this shortcut if it ends up increasing the levels' insert size.

I love Z-Ordering so much. Glad it was fixed in 2.00 (/me dismisses the fact that he's the one who reported the problem in the first place)

First of all I would like to take the time to thank you fusoya for all of your hard work that you have put into your editor.

and wow, this last LM release is amazing! So many upgrades.

The only thing I could request is that it would be super cool if you could adjust the size of the level in LM in terms of a big square or bigger rectangle shape.

Someone came up with a way of doing this years ago, but it was outside of lunar magic and you had to view it in LM as normal, while only in game play mode could you really see the effects.

So in other words have an adjustable level size that you can configure in LM and isn't just the original standard level sizes from the original. game.

About those new Layer 3 RAM addresses...

- What exactly do $145E/$145F do? The RAM map entry just says "various Layer 3 settings". And what about $1B78 and $1B7A?
- If $1460/$1461 are used for the Y accumulation bits, where are the X ones?
- Does Lunar Magic add any addresses that act like $1462-$1469 for Layer 3? I notice that Layer 3 doesn't have "position on next frame" addresses, and $146A-6D or even $146C-6F would have been a good place to put them (for SMW or LM), but that seems not to be the case.
- Does Lunar Magic have any subroutines for Layer 3 scrolling that I could take advantage of in custom code?

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I'm working on a hack! Check it out here.

Alcaro already coded such a thing like, a year or so ago?
It allows the level to go as far as you want (within a limit I guess) horizontally and vertically, but FuSoYa said he's not going to include compatibility for it in LM, so there's that.

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Your layout has been removed.

Possible yes, but it was skipped for now as it would need to account for objects that can change depending on the tiles underneath them and would probably need to be made optional.



It holds the bypass settings you see in LM's layer 3 settings dialog.



They contain the layer 3 positions for the next frame, to correct for the layer 3 status bar scroll sync issue.



$145C



While it's not intentional I suppose $1B78 and $1B7A could technically serve the same purpose when the sync option is on. But keep in mind that it isn't supposed to be turned on if you're using a sprite status bar or the status bar is at the bottom of the screen. Because if it is you'd cause layer 3's scrolling to be a frame behind instead of it solving the original issue of it being a frame ahead. Though it may be hard to spot the effect as long as layer 3 isn't set to constant scroll.



None come to mind.

Two thoughts regarding layer 2 levels that may or may not be worth looking into:

- Looks like layer 2 isn't taken into account when calculating the number of screens.

- Would it be feasible to have layer 2 tiles with priority enabled appear in front of layer 1 in the editor?

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I found a bug with loading ExGFX from Map16 tiles: I can remap to SP1/SP2 (300-3FF) and they load just fine in LM, but both LMSW and snes9x say otherwise (I get glitchy tiles instead). However, I can't remap past that (400-4FF throw remap errors).

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I really need a layout. :<

Yes, it only looks at layer 1 as the help file says. I could add layer 2 if needed.



It's possible, but would slow down drawing somewhat. I made an exception while putting in layer 3 as it's a little more important there, but it doesn't seem to be used much for layer 1/2.



LM only allows it in case you want to play with VRAM rearranging. It's not going to work in game without custom code.



That's a hardware limit. The SNES tilemap data format only allows up to 3FF.

Hey everyone, could you tell the imcompatible patches with the new version of Lunar Magic?
I know that the Multi Midway Points doesn't work!