I'm going to change my vote to Jorshamo too, for the reasons stated above. Also, I think the reason why he's voting for JCD is because Jorshamo is an investigator, and JCD is an important dude, like the doctor or sheriff, and that's why he said he was a citizen.
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Voting 10204307. 3rd person on a bandwagon? Also latukas said that he's voting Jorshamo because it's essentially a no-kill and no-one's going to follow him. Yet you agree with him AND vote for Jorshamo... what?
I hope my logic makes sense? I'm not too sane right now. I'm not sure about you guys but 102's post is a bit weird?
I hope my logic makes sense? I'm not too sane right now. I'm not sure about you guys but 102's post is a bit weird?
It's all about conquering that desire within you to succumb to your greed.
Question them, suspect them, and take a good long look into their hearts.
Question them, suspect them, and take a good long look into their hearts.
You're not even paying attention to anything are you? I'm the second person, and my reason makes sense. Yours, however, doesn't. You're just being paranoid.
Random votes are extremely useful, in that they get discussion going. No-kill really just gives the Mafia an extra kill, and doesn't reveal anything important, generally.
As of now, I am very suspicious of Pheno. Because I make an attempt to get discussion going, I'm vote-worthy? MajorasMask9 implied that he had reason to vote Henix, but nobody seemed to notice? And what do you mean by a "funny and deadly bandwagon"? I never said that I was seriously interested in killing JDC. Random votes are almost the most important part of the game, because how a person reacts can be very indicative of their role.
And KWB has a point. Is Pheno suspicious because he started an even more deadly bandwagon? For the record, I don't believe that, but I'm suspicious of 102, and changing my vote to Phenolatukas.
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As of now, I am very suspicious of Pheno. Because I make an attempt to get discussion going, I'm vote-worthy? MajorasMask9 implied that he had reason to vote Henix, but nobody seemed to notice? And what do you mean by a "funny and deadly bandwagon"? I never said that I was seriously interested in killing JDC. Random votes are almost the most important part of the game, because how a person reacts can be very indicative of their role.
And KWB has a point. Is Pheno suspicious because he started an even more deadly bandwagon? For the record, I don't believe that, but I'm suspicious of 102, and changing my vote to Phenolatukas.
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I vote not Devann, because he's confirmed not Mafia.
Oh what, I can't do that? Then can we have everyone make some sense and vote properly? If we're really going to end up going no-kill then can you at least vote no-kill so the day goes by and we continue?
Also, voting JDC. Just a hunch/completely random choice that sounded good for obscure reasons. Who or what is hypocrisy.
May we meet again outside the battlefield.
Oh what, I can't do that? Then can we have everyone make some sense and vote properly? If we're really going to end up going no-kill then can you at least vote no-kill so the day goes by and we continue?
Also, voting JDC. Just a hunch/completely random choice that sounded good for obscure reasons. Who or what is hypocrisy.
May we meet again outside the battlefield.
Haha, contrary. As you put it, I was probing for information for discussion. If "so this is as good as a no-kill" didn't make that clear enough for you, then I must of failed at my job.
"because how a person reacts can be very indicative of their role"? You reacted a lot to what was suposed to be a simple joke, which hardly puts you in the clear. You're trying to kill me off becuase 10204307, rather stupidly, bandwagoned? "because he started an even more deadly bandwagon", you say? This wasn't intended as a bandwagon, or expected to be. And isn't.
That's not the only logic flaw you made. "No-kill really just gives the Mafia an extra kill, and doesn't reveal anything important, generally."
Hahahah. No. Did you know that the first time this was said in a game, it was by the mafia? They wanted the town to kill themselves off.
No-Kills are admitedly a double edged sword. Stalling means the mafia won't be killed, but let's be fair here. If YOU randomly vote off a townie on the first day, or simply for the sake of it, what do you do? You bring the mafia one player closer to victory, while leaving the town one good player less powerful.
Alternatve? One of the most effective tactics in mafia is for the town to stall No-Kill while giving as little information to the mafia as possible, so that the mafia may not work out who the doctor is. Said doctor will protect the sheriff every night, and the sheriff will keep checking until the doctor is killed. "But the sheriff is useless unless he finds a mafia!" you cry. Not true at all. Each person checked by the sheriff confirms them as a cetian role, narrowing the targets down. Each player checked becomes a part in a network of communication between town players, and with over half of the town checked it is possible to simply kill an unchecked player every night and win. If the sheriff finds the mafia players quickly, the game is over. And No-Killing means the town won't drag themselves closer to loseing in the process. 1 kill a round instead of 2 means the sheriff only loses 1 player for every one he checks, not 2. The game is twice as slow. That's a big diference.
As you can imagine, this is extremely scary for the mafia expecialy if the sheriff is able to team up with other power roles like the vig or governor. The game is only up when the doctor dies, meaning the sheriff can reveal his information but if the town keeps quiet with the communication, it is extremely hard for the mafia to kill the doctor at night.
Anyway. An essay in mafia fot you.
"because how a person reacts can be very indicative of their role"? You reacted a lot to what was suposed to be a simple joke, which hardly puts you in the clear. You're trying to kill me off becuase 10204307, rather stupidly, bandwagoned? "because he started an even more deadly bandwagon", you say? This wasn't intended as a bandwagon, or expected to be. And isn't.
That's not the only logic flaw you made. "No-kill really just gives the Mafia an extra kill, and doesn't reveal anything important, generally."
Hahahah. No. Did you know that the first time this was said in a game, it was by the mafia? They wanted the town to kill themselves off.
No-Kills are admitedly a double edged sword. Stalling means the mafia won't be killed, but let's be fair here. If YOU randomly vote off a townie on the first day, or simply for the sake of it, what do you do? You bring the mafia one player closer to victory, while leaving the town one good player less powerful.
Alternatve? One of the most effective tactics in mafia is for the town to stall No-Kill while giving as little information to the mafia as possible, so that the mafia may not work out who the doctor is. Said doctor will protect the sheriff every night, and the sheriff will keep checking until the doctor is killed. "But the sheriff is useless unless he finds a mafia!" you cry. Not true at all. Each person checked by the sheriff confirms them as a cetian role, narrowing the targets down. Each player checked becomes a part in a network of communication between town players, and with over half of the town checked it is possible to simply kill an unchecked player every night and win. If the sheriff finds the mafia players quickly, the game is over. And No-Killing means the town won't drag themselves closer to loseing in the process. 1 kill a round instead of 2 means the sheriff only loses 1 player for every one he checks, not 2. The game is twice as slow. That's a big diference.
As you can imagine, this is extremely scary for the mafia expecialy if the sheriff is able to team up with other power roles like the vig or governor. The game is only up when the doctor dies, meaning the sheriff can reveal his information but if the town keeps quiet with the communication, it is extremely hard for the mafia to kill the doctor at night.
Anyway. An essay in mafia fot you.
Changing vote to Jorshamo, because he seems rather interested in killing me.
By the way - you will regret voting me off. I think Jorshamo knows something....
Just my two cents.
By the way - you will regret voting me off. I think Jorshamo knows something....
Just my two cents.
Originally posted by Jorshamo
MajorasMask9 implied that he had reason to vote Henix, but nobody seemed to notice?
Shhhhhhh, it's a stupid reason, we don't need to discuss it :).
Also I am outraged at the possibility of Jorshamo being lynched. Seems like pretty weak reasons to vote for him IMO.
Current vote count for the confused:
No-kill: 2 (Henix, Evilguy0613)
JDC: 1 (Forty2)
10204307: 2 (KWB, RockytheTigre)
Jorshamo: 3 (Phenolatukas, JDC, 10204307)
Henix: 1 (Majorasmask9)
Phenolatukas: 1 (Jorshamo)
Yet to vote: 3 (Kiseki, Devann, PMW)
Lots of low person bandwagons. Jorshamo seems to be under the chopping block, however.
woag.....
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No-kill: 2 (Henix, Evilguy0613)
JDC: 1 (Forty2)
10204307: 2 (KWB, RockytheTigre)
Jorshamo: 3 (Phenolatukas, JDC, 10204307)
Henix: 1 (Majorasmask9)
Phenolatukas: 1 (Jorshamo)
Yet to vote: 3 (Kiseki, Devann, PMW)
Lots of low person bandwagons. Jorshamo seems to be under the chopping block, however.
woag.....
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For now, I'm going to vote for the guy with the numbers.
I think that bandwagoning on a completely non-serious vote, making ridiculous accusation with no evidence whatsoever and calling the one person who questions his thinking paranoid is pretty suspicious.
I'll change my vote if something comes up, or if my brain stops being completely blank.
I think that bandwagoning on a completely non-serious vote, making ridiculous accusation with no evidence whatsoever and calling the one person who questions his thinking paranoid is pretty suspicious.
I'll change my vote if something comes up, or if my brain stops being completely blank.
Originally posted by JDC
Changing vote to Jorshamo, because he seems rather interested in killing me.
By the way - you will regret voting me off. I think Jorshamo knows something....
Just my two cents.
By the way - you will regret voting me off. I think Jorshamo knows something....
Just my two cents.
What. I said that I wasn't interested in killing you.
I don't have time right now to talk about every that Pheno said, but I'll get to it later, if I can.
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To be honest, I think that calling my vote "stupid" is offensive and questioning of my intelligence. I stated my reasons for voting, and I am completely serious about my vote. I urge you to reconsider your vote. If I am pushed to, I will reveal my role to you. I am not going to be offed on the first round of my first game.
Changing my vote to no-kill.
Okay, I'll admit I jumped the gun a little. However, I am honestly surprised to see Pheno, of all people, advocating follow the cop, above all else.
I know I''m acting pretty scummy. I know (now) that you weren't expecting that vote to become a bandwagon. However, the speed in which it happened seemed a little suspicious. But I think this is a town-on-town scuffle more than anything now.
No-kills are less useful than you make them out to be. Consider the options: No-kill and rely on the sheriff, unless he is night-killed before he finds anyone or the doctor identifies him, or is roleblocked repeatedly, or the doctor is roleblocked and he is killed, or the doctor is killed before he identifies himself, among other things. Yes, the Follow-The-Cop method IS powerful, BUT there are quite a few things that could go wrong. And if they do, then what? We've been no-killing the whole game, and likely end up in LyLo with no information.
Alternative? We lynch according to who we suspect, and gather information while doing so. While lynching may result in killing an innocent player, it does garner information to aid future lynches.
I think you need to pay more attention to what's happening this game. There is no Vig or Gov, and as mentioned, there are more things that can go wrong than just the Doc dying. In fact, the Cop is essentialy useless after he reveals himself, due to the Roleblocker, until the
Roleblocker is killed.
Anyway, I'm Retracting my vote for Phenolatukas, and voting instead for 10204307. Bandwagonning when he did, and staying on the wagon by himself seems a bit of an odd move.
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Originally posted by Phenolatukas
"because how a person reacts can be very indicative of their role"? You reacted a lot to what was suposed to be a simple joke, which hardly puts you in the clear. You're trying to kill me off becuase 10204307, rather stupidly, bandwagoned? "because he started an even more deadly bandwagon", you say? This wasn't intended as a bandwagon, or expected to be. And isn't.
I know I''m acting pretty scummy. I know (now) that you weren't expecting that vote to become a bandwagon. However, the speed in which it happened seemed a little suspicious. But I think this is a town-on-town scuffle more than anything now.
Originally posted by Phenolatukas
That's not the only logic flaw you made. "No-kill really just gives the Mafia an extra kill, and doesn't reveal anything important, generally."
Hahahah. No. Did you know that the first time this was said in a game, it was by the mafia? They wanted the town to kill themselves off.
No-Kills are admitedly a double edged sword. Stalling means the mafia won't be killed, but let's be fair here. If YOU randomly vote off a townie on the first day, or simply for the sake of it, what do you do? You bring the mafia one player closer to victory, while leaving the town one good player less powerful.
Alternatve? One of the most effective tactics in mafia is for the town to stall No-Kill while giving as little information to the mafia as possible, so that the mafia may not work out who the doctor is. Said doctor will protect the sheriff every night, and the sheriff will keep checking until the doctor is killed. "But the sheriff is useless unless he finds a mafia!" you cry. Not true at all. Each person checked by the sheriff confirms them as a cetian role, narrowing the targets down. Each player checked becomes a part in a network of communication between town players, and with over half of the town checked it is possible to simply kill an unchecked player every night and win. If the sheriff finds the mafia players quickly, the game is over. And No-Killing means the town won't drag themselves closer to loseing in the process. 1 kill a round instead of 2 means the sheriff only loses 1 player for every one he checks, not 2. The game is twice as slow. That's a big diference.
Hahahah. No. Did you know that the first time this was said in a game, it was by the mafia? They wanted the town to kill themselves off.
No-Kills are admitedly a double edged sword. Stalling means the mafia won't be killed, but let's be fair here. If YOU randomly vote off a townie on the first day, or simply for the sake of it, what do you do? You bring the mafia one player closer to victory, while leaving the town one good player less powerful.
Alternatve? One of the most effective tactics in mafia is for the town to stall No-Kill while giving as little information to the mafia as possible, so that the mafia may not work out who the doctor is. Said doctor will protect the sheriff every night, and the sheriff will keep checking until the doctor is killed. "But the sheriff is useless unless he finds a mafia!" you cry. Not true at all. Each person checked by the sheriff confirms them as a cetian role, narrowing the targets down. Each player checked becomes a part in a network of communication between town players, and with over half of the town checked it is possible to simply kill an unchecked player every night and win. If the sheriff finds the mafia players quickly, the game is over. And No-Killing means the town won't drag themselves closer to loseing in the process. 1 kill a round instead of 2 means the sheriff only loses 1 player for every one he checks, not 2. The game is twice as slow. That's a big diference.
No-kills are less useful than you make them out to be. Consider the options: No-kill and rely on the sheriff, unless he is night-killed before he finds anyone or the doctor identifies him, or is roleblocked repeatedly, or the doctor is roleblocked and he is killed, or the doctor is killed before he identifies himself, among other things. Yes, the Follow-The-Cop method IS powerful, BUT there are quite a few things that could go wrong. And if they do, then what? We've been no-killing the whole game, and likely end up in LyLo with no information.
Alternative? We lynch according to who we suspect, and gather information while doing so. While lynching may result in killing an innocent player, it does garner information to aid future lynches.
Originally posted by Phenolatukas[/quote
As you can imagine, this is extremely scary for the mafia expecialy if the sheriff is able to team up with other power roles like the vig or governor. The game is only up when the doctor dies, meaning the sheriff can reveal his information but if the town keeps quiet with the communication, it is extremely hard for the mafia to kill the doctor at night.
I think you need to pay more attention to what's happening this game. There is no Vig or Gov, and as mentioned, there are more things that can go wrong than just the Doc dying. In fact, the Cop is essentialy useless after he reveals himself, due to the Roleblocker, until the
Roleblocker is killed.
Anyway, I'm Retracting my vote for Phenolatukas, and voting instead for 10204307. Bandwagonning when he did, and staying on the wagon by himself seems a bit of an odd move.
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All right, we've all had fun accusing each-other, and I think we've made some real progress today. However, I don't really think we know enough to be voting each-other off today. I'm switching my vote to No-Kill. We may be making horrible mistakes. And I know, myself, that you are. A terrible, horrific, mortifying mistake. Are you really ready to take that risk?
Voting for the numbers guy whose name I'm too lazy to type for the above reasons. He seems quite suspicious.
Want to see some of my cool swords? Well, too bad, right now you only get to see one of them, and it's my avatar. Might set up some kind of gallery/portfolio at some point, though.
You know, we're suposed to have rules against doing that.
Expecialy as SDY1 dosen't take mesures against metagaming. ¬-¬
Just for next time you count the votes SDY1, count mine as a no-kill. Because that's what it was intended to be in the first place.
Expecialy as SDY1 dosen't take mesures against metagaming. ¬-¬
Just for next time you count the votes SDY1, count mine as a no-kill. Because that's what it was intended to be in the first place.
Originally posted by 10204307
You assume that'll help you when we all know you could've forged those images.
I'm still holding my vote, just in case you DID in fact forge them.
Want to see some of my cool swords? Well, too bad, right now you only get to see one of them, and it's my avatar. Might set up some kind of gallery/portfolio at some point, though.
Changing my vote back to Henix.