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If SMWCentral was an Acmlm board

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Since this site seems to be "inspired" by Acmlm forum software (despite the awesome fact that this site seems to run off ~90% original code) i sorta wanted to ask this question. What would you do if Kieran suddenly went full out and changed the forums area of this site into an Acmlm board? Would you mind? Would you be vocal about the decision?

If you don't know what an Acmlm board is then look up "JUL", and the site's layout should give you an idea #w{=)}
everybody would leave and there would be 1-10 posts a day

Also, you probably wanna refer to board2 when talking about an acmlm layout, considering it is supposed to be a successor to acmlm as far as I know. But that board is pretty much dead. JUL has more activity.
AcmlmBoard is horrible forum software, especially versions before 2.0. You'd have to be a complete idiot to use that without heavily patching it from MySQL injection and other exploits. Not to mention AcmlmBoard doesn't have all the sections and features SMWCentral does for hacks and file uploading, it's completely useless to us and doesn't seem practical.

The forum software we use is 'inspired' from AcmlmBoard, hence the ranksets, HTML post layouts, name colors and similar formatting.
Originally posted by YouAreSuperMario
(despite the awesome fact that this site seems to run off ~90% original code)

I'm pretty sure Kieran coded everything by himself. The only times he probably used someone else's code was when asking for help.
Honestly, I wouldn't really care that much what kind of forum software this board uses. Just as long as this forum doesn't become as inactive as board2 (which I joined and silently left for that reason years before I joined SMWC), it'll probably be mostly the same for me.

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Originally posted by Blumiere
Originally posted by YouAreSuperMario
(despite the awesome fact that this site seems to run off ~90% original code)

I'm pretty sure Kieran coded everything by himself. The only times he probably used someone else's code was when asking for help.

... yeah

But really, I think that Kieran did code from scratch, maybe sometimes taking code from AcmlmBoard, but very rarely... but then, users use those same colors as on AcmlmBoard, default staff colors are also this same as on AcmlmBoard... It's pretty different internally...
My thoughts:
-AcmlmBoard sucks.
-MyBB is good, but not so much
-ProPhpBB is also good, but it lacks some things that forums like these have.
-I haven't ever seen MySQL, but I think is also good.
In conclusion, this is the better site design you will ever find. Well, in my opinion
Nothing worth looking at here.
Originally posted by l30n4rd0
-I haven't ever seen MySQL, but I think is also good.

You have no idea what you're talking about, am I right?

Also I don't think I would care if he changed the forum part into "acmlm boards", as long as there are layouts.
Your layout has been removed.
Originally posted by leod
Originally posted by l30n4rd0
-I haven't ever seen MySQL, but I think is also good.

You have no idea what you're talking about, am I right?

Why? Just because I'm thinking well of something without even seen it?
Nothing worth looking at here.
No, more so because MySQL isn't a kind of forum software, let alone any kind of visual thing, it's used for databases on web sites and pretty much all big websites use it to keep their shit together.
See Wikipedia for more.
Your layout has been removed.
Originally posted by leod
No, more so because MySQL isn't a kind of forum software, let alone any kind of visual thing, it's used for databases on web sites and pretty much all big websites use it to keep their shit together.
See Wikipedia for more.

Ah, for that. Yes, maybe I should investigate something before rating it.
Nothing worth looking at here.
Originally posted by Glitch.Mr
Originally posted by Blumiere
Originally posted by YouAreSuperMario
(despite the awesome fact that this site seems to run off ~90% original code)

I'm pretty sure Kieran coded everything by himself. The only times he probably used someone else's code was when asking for help.

... yeah

I was talking about the forum software, not gimmicks he introduced for certain days. He also used some script he found via Google to make snowflakes appear on the site a while ago but both examples are beside the point.
Originally posted by Blumiere
I was talking about the forum software, not gimmicks he introduced for certain days. He also used some script he found via Google to make snowflakes appear on the site a while ago but both examples are beside the point.


So your saying that Kieran coded everything himself, that pretty cool.

Originally posted by l30n4rd0
My thoughts:
-AcmlmBoard sucks [...] In conclusion, this is the better site design you will ever find. Well, in my opinion


I'm afraid i have to disagree with you, SMWCentral seems to be terribly outdated. In fact this site hasn't had a major update in how long? No Youtube support, features are half implemented and there seems to be a 'laxed "i do it later" attitude going around here.

But i don't want to sound like hypocrite here as i know designing a site 100% from scratch is a very difficult task. I just don't understand how you can put AcmlmBoard down so much when this site has it's own fair share of flaws.
Embedding YouTube videos was removed to prevent an exploit from being used. I'm not sure what exactly it was, but we had YouTube videos here before (if that's what you count as "YouTube support").
Originally posted by Weeabuu
Embedding YouTube videos was removed to prevent an exploit from being used. I'm not sure what exactly it was, but we had YouTube videos here before (if that's what you count as "YouTube support").


Well i can understand that. What i can't understand is how its taking this long to find a simple work around. If my memory serves me correctly, the Embed code was blocked long before Youtube created a new one. Has Kieran tested to see if the new Embed code also has the exploit in it?

I would think it's stupid that people would prefer one board over another because of this, but it does support my feeling that this site is getting outdated.
After spending most of my very early internet life on acmlm boards, I think I can safely say I prefer more traditional looking forum software. Not that the whole idea behind acmlmboard isn't sound; post layouts, for example, aren't inherently a bad idea, but I think they make threads look horribly gaudy and slow loading, hence why I have them permanently off. Among other things, I sort of missed the postcount trackers to see how much people posted in the last period of time because, shallow as it may be, I do think they encourage discussion. Whether or not you think that's a desirable effect is quite variable of course.
Originally posted by YASM
Has Kieran tested to see if the new Embed code also has the exploit in it?

Seeing how he took the time to block the new code as well (which uses completely different tags than the old one, so he must have manually blocked it), I'm pretty sure he did.

Originally posted by YASM
In fact this site hasn't had a major update in how long?

The forum was down from the 24th of July 2010 to the 16th of August 2010 (or somewhere around that) because it has been completely recoded (by Kieran alone, yes everything).

Originally posted by YASM
No Youtube support

Seeing how "Youtube Support" comes by default with every single html file you create on your desktop as it is pure html, you really should have been able to guess by yourself that it has been disabled for a reason, and not because the site is "outdated", before someone else having to tell you.
Besides, who really misses those atrocious, lag-inducing, ugly embedded YouTube videos, when linking them is just so much better?

And of course, having a unique, custom forum software, like this site does, entails that you can't have continuous security updates, addition of features and all that like you would have if you used some other generic forum software, because Kieran has a job and seems to be pretty busy with it, too, and it after all is not his duty to keep this site alive, so be thankful that he does at all.
Your layout has been removed.


Look at all us oldf**s come out of hiding.
Wait what am i talking about, i wasn't around when acmlm was...


Anyway, as far as i know it wouldn't be all that much different

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Originally posted by BloodyToothBrush
Wait what am i talking about, i wasn't around when acmlm was...

I was :) (Though I quickly got myself banned, 'cause I was stupid that way).

Either way, it's the community that keeps me here, not the forum software.
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