So, well. I'm the one, who posted last time, that I don't believe in those "supernatural" occurences, as I have never seen a proof. But after I've wrote my last reply here, I've started to search and get the proof myself. I've read some books, however all those were unrealistic and hadn't anything to do with reality. So, I've discovered two parts of the esoteric culture:
- The one part of occultists, aren't occultists, but charlatans selling books for a high amount of money, useless books, that don't give any lesson on this.
- The other part of occultists are those people, who are really serious about this, yes seeing this already as a science. Those have way clear books, are more logically as the most others there.
After I've discovered this, I started researching better for books, which are actually teaching this for serious. I've then discovered a book, which is really overwhelming and not only for occultists, yes it's even for general scientists or musicians. It's unbelieveable. But it's logic can be used everywhere.
The book is called: "Initation into Hermetics" by Franz Bardon.
The book is somewhere freely available, it's the 1987 edition, which I prefer, as newer editions are misunderstood and wrong.
I've got the edition here:
(It's allowed to release this edition. Ask the publishers. They've said, that we're freely allowed to spread around this 1987 edition anywhere on the internet. However, newer or older editions are not allowed to be shared. However, because Franz Bardon is long dead, nothing new can be added to it, mainly just some corrections, which are useless, because some are even wrong and mess up the understanding of the book)
It's teaching magic in 10 steps. However, those 10 steps aren't done in five or ten minutes. It varies. But the one, who seriously does it, will take up around 2-3 years to go through all steps.
Hermetics is the logical system, which works on every effect you're seeing and can describe situations exactly. Hermetics is combining every science and religion in itself, through analogies. (Ex.: Atoms and solar system. Something like that; It's also called the principle of correspondence)
Just saying: The Principle of Polarity embodies the idea that everything is dual, everything has two poles, and everything has its opposite. All manifested things have two sides, two aspects, or two poles. Everything "is" and "isn't" at the same time, all truths are but half truths and every truth is half false, there are two sides to everything, opposites are identical in nature, yet different in degree, extremes meet, and all paradoxes may be reconciled.
This should conclude Maxx's post.
The seven principles of hermetics are:
The principle of mentalism
The principle of correspondence
The principle of vibration
The principle of polarity
The principle of rhythm
The principle of cause and effect
The principle of gender
You can read in wikipedia something about it. It's the "Kybalion" article.
The explaintation of supernatural phenomenons is:
"Mentality" means, as definition from hermetics, thoughts or images of thoughts. But NO FEELINGS! Feelings are coming from the "astral" body. The mental body contains the thoughts and pictures, the astral body contains the feelings. Remember that those bodies are not apart from eachother, they're one and the same. It's complicated to explain this, it's like "Evolution". Some parts are similar to the physical body, some are similar to the others and so on.
Now, there's a mental plane, physical plane and astral plane. Also, those are not apart from eachother, they are one and the same. Example: You never find a polar desert at the end of a sand desert. Everything needs time. It's an evolutionary process and you will have to go near the equator.
Now, those who actually trained those methods can cause a "mental phenomenon". I've said, that every body is one and the same and so, the principle of cause and effect will take in action. So, if I cause a mental cause, it will take effect in all bodies and planes and so it will take effect on the astral body, on the astral plane and take effect on the physical body, on the physical plane.
Thing is just: While mental phenomenons are big, their effect is getting lower and lower, the more it comes to the physical plane. That's because the vibration of our thoughts is getting coarser, so the effect on physical plane is not really that big and is mostly a little manipulation(look at manipulation of random number generators or other "easy" environment manipulation, which aren't really significant enough to prove these abilities in physics)
Problem is: Physics is a science made for the physical plane, not the others. And so, it cannot describe other planes, as their physical laws are not valid there anymore. However, all seven principles can be found on every plane, so hermetics is a science, which can be used to discover laws on all planes and maybe create an own science for them.
I've created a psi-wheel and tried to experiment with it. I've closed all windows, used not strong light, my mouth was far enough from the psi-wheel so my air cannot manipulate this. I've first tried it with hands. Of course, the physical explaintation is thermodynamics. Then I tried it without hands, it also worked. But physical explaintation would be also thermodynamics. So, what does this mean? Exactly, every cause and effect is connected through all bodies, meaning, that it doesn't matter how you do something, as it will result in a physical explaintation. So, you can say, I'm the one who causes this thermodynmaics. However, the cause for this lies not in our plane, it lies on the mental plane. And that effect, takes action on the physical plane, thus you can explain the phenomenon through physics, but not explain the cause for it, as it lies on the mental plane. That's actually the place, where the manipulation comes from.
I've proved myself, that those phenomenons exist and can be caused consciously. Those who deny it, shall deny it. I did the same, until I realized, that I have to discover it MYSELF, than searching for results done by others.
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