Do keep in mind I'm not trying to bitch, I just want to state my honest opinion.
I have that right, right?
Simply put, when people start getting paid to SMW hack is when I actually see any kind of improvement in SMW hack level design. Let's face it, even with all the new tools coming out, there isn't anymore new resources hardly being released anymore, nothing original, and with the amount of people hacking, I can bet anything has already been done somewhere.
To all people who play hacks, you may as well get used to things like overused music, the same bosses over and over again, and some little quirks like item babysitting or fancy ASM gfx. Not everybody has the ability to make sprites, make music, or gfx (classic or fancy), and anybody that can will probably base it off of something Nintendo has already done, like the recent trend with copying NSMB gfx stuff, this includes Wii and Wii U stuff (which I have done, I'm no exception).
For some reason, when I look at this thread, it almost makes SMW hacking seem more like a job to please everyone around who wants to play a hack instead of just doing it for fun, which is why some things always get canceled because of the stress that comes with trying to make a perfect hack when in truth, you can't create ANYTHING perfect. There will always be mistakes and things you don't like, pet peeves and things that will absolutely frustrate you.
Long fucking levels, item babysitting, overused music, oh my gosh, the list can go on and on. Porting music is hard, making a custom soundtrack is even harder, and I haven't even tried, but I've talked to people who can and trust me, they say composing for SMW is pretty damn difficult, especially with today's standards. I don't think anyone can just PM a good musician and ask "Hey, can you help me make a custom soundtrack", you can't, I haven't tried because I have no idea what is used and what is overused, I don't play hacks at all except for a very select few.
With the hundreds of resources on the site, the ideas are still limited, and they are going to get even worse. I understand the point of this thread, it is supposed to give a hint to hackers of what not to do in your hack if you wish to appeal to the public, but for me, who has done this for four years now, almost five, it actually discourages me from trying to continue. I'm almost always afraid of downloading and using a pre-coded boss because I think someone has used this elsewhere, and if that is the case, MANY have.
This is a boss we are talking about, not a clever sprite. Do you know how hard it is to try to take a pre-coded boss and try to make a clever arena just to make the fight appealing? It wracks my fucking brain so bad that just close Lunar Magic after getting so frustrated for wasting an hour of my time designing and redesigning something just because the boss was coded to be used in a square room.
So, I use the noob boss to try to give atleast SOME form of originality, but THEN people everywhere are hating on the damn thing because it is the ONLY customizable boss I could find anywhere.
Then there is the music, look anywhere on the music page and check how many times it has been downloaded. I can guarantee if the music sounds decent, about 60% of it is being used in a lot of different hacks, and if you play 'em, be prepared to hear it a lot. Take the DKC (1-3) songs for example, they are good songs from a good game and decently ported. You better bet if anyone likes the games, they want to use the songs, and there seems to be a good bit of DKC fans on the site (I'm one myself
I don't really get irritated with stuff if I do play a hack, I try looking at it with a constructive mind, and if I think it could be better, I'll offer my opinion, if I think something could be changed, I'll suggest them to use "this" or "that", not just "change the damn music, it doesn't fit and I've heard it everywhere." for this reason or that reason, not just because I don't like it, because someone else may like that better instead. (wow, that's hard to understand, even for me.)
Wow, what am I trying to get at, I think I got into a bit of a ramble...
Okay, I think it was this...
I thought the point of this thread was to help point smw hackers in a positive direction, and to give people the opportunity to discuss things that are just absolutely horrible in smw hacking, like don't make it to where you have to jump down a hole with no indication, no blind jumps, instead, I'm seeing things like
"I don't like scrolling levels"
"I don't like this music because I've heard it EVERYWHERE!"
"Don't use this boss, it is fucking overused"
Well damn, limit my creativity don't ya? If I'm gonna make a hack, I want people to play the damn thing and enjoy it, but i want to enjoy making it too, not make it feel like a freaking job instead of an enjoyable hobby. (I'm really bitching aren't I?)
I'm not meaning to insult or point out any certain people or anything, but this thread does discourage me from hacking at points in time, and many will say to just not read the thread or "fuck off". Alright fine... I'll try
, but as an active modder of SMW, one of my most favorite games of all time, I can't help but look to see if I can find something I must avoid, to see if there is anything constructive, but only so few have them.
Now, I'm sure by this time, you are going to ask, "Alright mister smarty pants, if you are so wise (trust me, I'm not that
wise, but I can say I have experience, go to my profile and see how long I've been here), what would be your example of a constructive comment as to make a hacker say: He's got good points. Instead of not using the slow scrolling speed because it makes the level un interesting and boring, how about I take this guy's suggestion and make it interesting; kind of deal. Well here's what I'd try to say...
"One of my pet peeves is scrolling levels because it forces the player to go at a set pace through the level. I don't like 'em at all, but if somebody could make the gimmick interesting by maybe adding some small and simple puzzles, like instead littering the level with jumpable enemies and a bunch of random jumps, lets give some sprite that will shoot a projectile and you have to dodge that while it is on screen, or maybe have some blocks you have to punch through before the screen kills you, and don't make the punching section too long either."
Hmm, might be a poor example... How about this.
"I don't like puzzles where you have to carry items around, or item babysit the whole level. But, instead of making a whole big level around item baby sitting, I'd enjoy it if there were a series of multiple small puzzles that involved carrying one item to another area a couple of screens back to get something else to carry back and pass through, or something like that."
Let's face it, when it comes to puzzles, you are very limited with what you can do in SMW unless one thinks outside the box and uses custom blocks and custom/original sprites in ways not seen before, which can be kind of hard. I imagine by now people have made puzzles where you have carry a spring board to get to a heightened area where a shooter of bob-ombs are where you can one and blow up bricks not far from where you must go to progress are, I've done this already (badly though, I need to go and fix that...)
I know I'm going to end up regretting post this in one way or another, but that is my honest opinion. In no way do I mean this to be a flame or an insult to anyone at all. Until more resources are getting released instead of just custom music and tools these days, I believe we are going to have to just get used to seeing the same material unless somebody wants to spend hours learning how to code sprites. Hacking SMW isn't going to get you or help you get a job in game design, it is just a good hobby I find entertaining.
Man, with that out of the way, I guess I'll bid a good day. Hopefully this thread will maybe evolve from just spouting things you don't like in SMW hacking to giving ways around those pet peeves. If it is hard for you to think of a way, imagine how hard it is for a hacker to try and think of something original. As a SMW hacker, I aim to please everyone I can, I know it is impossible, but I atleast aim for it because I like to see people smile
, and not so -sad-...
This is just my opinion, I don't wish to force it on anyone and no one has to even comply to a thing I say, hell, it may just totally be ignored. We all have different opinions on things, that's a fact in of itself. This is an awesome community, but when I come to this thread, it does make me sad, and I think some others may feel that way. No, I mean it, I feel really sad, I don't know EXACTLY why I do, but I do... Oh well, I feel much better just posting my thoughts on this.
I just want to stress this is not anyway meant to hurt anyone. So... um, there! Stressed!
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