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The Super Mario Bros. 3 Stage theory
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SMW C:\\user_19007_shree\posts >> target.display('layout_mathos','Sea of Science')
This is actually a very famous theory throughout the Internet, so I can't believe someone didn't post about this here, or maybe they did, and I didn't see it.

Anyways, the theory is that Super Mario Bros. 3 was just one big stage play, and all this time, you THOUGHT you were controlling Mario.

Here're some proofs:

1. The game starts and ends with a curtain.

2. Almost all floating objects are either bolted into the background or suspended from ropes.

3. Those "moving platforms" are operated with machines which stick out of the background.

4. There is a shadow onto the sky for a lot of objects.

5. (This one is my own) Mario changes most of his power-ups by smoke, like in real plays, only faster.

6. Mario exits each stage on the right, like in plays.

Here's the original image:




What do YOU think? Did this post break or make your childhood?

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I'm not really THAT surprised about it, but it's a pretty cool theory.
Wait, what?

That's entirely bullshit. The resemblance to a play was an artistic choice by Nintendo, not some "woah, let's break their childhoods" moment. It's supposed to look like a play just because that's how Nintendo designed. That was never a secret.
If it is a play it wouldn't be the safest to perform, what with all the lasers and lava pits. And it'd be a right bugger for the audience to find Mario on such a long stage if the levels are actually stages.

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Oh yeah, SMB3 could be a show, but the remake (SMAS) is being less a show since of hardware (three layers, write twice registers like palette* register, etc.).

Edit: SMB3 could be never exist but the remake (SMB3 in SMAS) could be real.

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Originally posted by regs.txt
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It's not a play.

-Why would the Mario Bros. need to go on vacation to Dinosaur Land due to exhaustion if SMB3 was just a play?

-The instruction booklet refers to the sunken ghost ship as one of bowser's airships from smb3, which means that everything actually happened.

Sure, it looked like one, but it wasn't. Like Egadd said, it was just a neat artistic choice.
SMB1 was real, took place in mushroom kingdom
SMB2J same
;SMB2 was a dream, doesnt take place in mushroom kingdom
;SMB3 was a play, doesnt take place in real mushroom kingdom
;SMW was a vacation to celebrate success of SMB3, doesnt take place in mushroom kingdom
;YI is the past, doesnt take place in mushroom kingdom

the next time you are in the mushroom kingdom is in SM64, and even then it's only in peach's castle

so the next time you're truly in the mushroom kingdom is in Paper Mario

if you only count platformers, then the next time you're truly in the mushroom kingdom is in NSMB

SMAS was a cashgrab and doesnt count


i may be missing something
Let me just ruin all of your childhoods right here:

In Paper Mario everyone is made of Paper!


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How would an already made up game not being "real" ruin your childhood anyway? I've never gotten that shit.

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The real way to ruin one's childhood is by suggesting that Mario was the bad guy all along, and Bowser was using Peach as a hostage so that he could lure Mario into his traps. He wanted to get rid of Mario, and so did Peach, so Peach went undercover, pretending to be Mario's lover. When she cries out "Help me, Mario!", it is a charade. It is part of Bowser's trap to lure Mario into saving Peach. Peach never needed saving. The kidnappings were planned by her and Bowser. The toads were decoys. How come Peach has kissed Mario, but never taken it any further? How come she sometimes kisses Luigi? She's tricking them. She's taking advantage of their feelings so they will do anything, no matter how dangerous, just to save her. Sometimes, Peach throws mushrooms out at Mario because they are ballast for Bowser's copter. She wasn't trying to help Mario against Bowser. The only time she helps Mario is if there is a different threat, such as Fawful or the Shroobs. The Mushroom castle is actually where Mario and Luigi come up with evil plans. Peach's attractiveness fooled them, so they let Peach be the ruler. Notice how whenever Bowser's airships attack the Mushroom castle, Peach is unharmed? She's escaping the Mushroom castle.

There. Bowser is the good guy trying to reclaim the kingdom and take down the tyrannical government that is the Mushroom castle. Nintendo encourages players to play as the bad guy and throw the good guy in lava.

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^ That, or Peach is good at cooking where Bowser is terrible, so he just wants her to make a nice cake for him. Fanfic writers, grab your pens.

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Originally posted by mathelete
The real way to ruin one's childhood is by suggesting that Mario was the bad guy all along, and Bowser was using Peach as a hostage so that he could lure Mario into his traps. He wanted to get rid of Mario, and so did Peach, so Peach went undercover, pretending to be Mario's lover. When she cries out "Help me, Mario!", it is a charade. It is part of Bowser's trap to lure Mario into saving Peach. Peach never needed saving. The kidnappings were planned by her and Bowser. The toads were decoys. How come Peach has kissed Mario, but never taken it any further? How come she sometimes kisses Luigi? She's tricking them. She's taking advantage of their feelings so they will do anything, no matter how dangerous, just to save her. Sometimes, Peach throws mushrooms out at Mario because they are ballast for Bowser's copter. She wasn't trying to help Mario against Bowser. The only time she helps Mario is if there is a different threat, such as Fawful or the Shroobs. The Mushroom castle is actually where Mario and Luigi come up with evil plans. Peach's attractiveness fooled them, so they let Peach be the ruler. Notice how whenever Bowser's airships attack the Mushroom castle, Peach is unharmed? She's escaping the Mushroom castle.

There. Bowser is the good guy trying to reclaim the kingdom and take down the tyrannical government that is the Mushroom castle. Nintendo encourages players to play as the bad guy and throw the good guy in lava.

In that case, explain how Super Princess Peach fits in.
It's not canon. There are many games in the series that can be considered non-canon. Heck, every single one can be excluded from a general canon.
Technically the only thing in the Mario canon is The Super Mario Bros. Super Show.
Yeah right... Concerning the fact that the cartoons were NEVER made in Japan the place where the first Mario game took place. Thus, ALL "Mario"-related content made in Japan are declared canon. Even Super Mario Bros. 2 for the U.S.. How? Your proof here! The original NES version story of the game FROM THE MANUAL!

Originally posted by <http://themushroomkingdom.net/manuals/smb2.txt>
"One evening, Mario had a strange dream. He dreamt of a long,
long stairway leading up to a door. As soon as the door
opened, he was confronted with a world he had never seen
before spreading out as far as his eyes could see. When he
strained his ears to listen, he heard a faint voice saying
"Welcome to 'Subcon', the land of dreams. We have been
cursed by Wart and we are completely under his evil spell. We
have been awaiting your arrival. Please defeat Wart and return
Subcon to its natural state. The curse Wart has put on you in
the real world will not have any effect upon you here.
Remember, Wart hates vegetables. Please help us!" At the same
time this was heard, a bolt of lightning flashed before Mario's
eyes. Stunned, Mario lost his footing and tumbled upside down.
He awoke with a start to find himself sitting up in his bed. To
clear his head, Mario talked to Luigi, Toad and Princess about
the strange dream he had. They decide to go to a nearby
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mountain for a picnic. After arriving
at the picnic area and looking at
the scenery, they see a small cave
nearby. When they enter this cave,
to their great surprise, there's a
stairway leading up, up and up. It
is exactly like the one Mario saw in
his dream. They all walk together
up the stairs and at the top, find a
door just like the one is Mario's
dream. When Mario and his
friends, in fear, open the door, to
their surprise, the world that he saw
in his dream spreads out before
them!
...."


There it is, Mario dreamed of the event the has happened and saw it in reality, meaning that Subcon is a sort a dimension related to dreams.

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Actually, (spoiler warning)
Mario wakes up at the end. You could go on for paragraphs about how this is up in the air, you could say "Mario dreamed the whole thing" or "he saved Subcon in his sleep". It's really confusing.
That it seems. But, the strange thing about all this is...

How did such characters from Subcon, the very area presumed to be an imaginary world in an individual's dream, somehow appear in other "Mario" titles as real beings?

How did such characters appeared BEFORE the dream (Yoshi's Island i.e.)?

HOW did such character from the dream apparently ended up in another universe!?!?

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The current avatar I have is from Neslug from DeviantART.

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Peach appeared in the dream and she's real too.
Even appeared in earlier games!

I'm missing your point.

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Well I'm talking about the ones that first appeared in the game (shy Guys, Snifits, Pokeys, Wart, etc.), not ALL of the characters that appeared in the game itself. Obviously, this can also refer to the characters once part of this game's origin, Doki Doki Panic. In short, I'm talking about the Doki Doki Panic characters that made it into the U.S. remake.

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Perfection is something that requires something that incompletes it. Perhaps it also breaks itself.

The current avatar I have is from Neslug from DeviantART.

LINK: <http://neslug.deviantart.com/art/Map-Bullet-Bill-119893315>
Once you think about it, he could have been dreaming of things he had seen in the past. Since Shy Guys, Birdos, etc. exist in the Mario canon, SMB2 could still have been a dream.

See what I meant about it being confusing?
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