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Ending Credits and Music

Why is it every time I decide to check this forum, stuff like this tends to happen?

In any case, like MrDeePay said, there just isn't a place for something like that in what is supposed to be a serious effort towards a competent collaboration hack. I thought we were supposed to have left all the out-of-place stuff from SMWCP1 and ASMT behind us.
Originally posted by leod
You summed up the entirety of the credits right there

I did not.
Originally posted by leod
so I'm not sure why you'd go for option 3 instead of 2 then.

See above.

The fact is, the credits are mostly pretty great, and just a little bit quirky to accurately portray the personality of THE SITE, while what I'm complaining about portrays the personality of Ladida, without any regards to the overall project. That said, if someone wants to make different credits, I guess I'd be fine with that if Ladida feels he's being censored or whatever the fuck.

Originally posted by WhiteYoshiEgg
(not sure if I get why you'd want your name entirely removed by the way)

Pretty sure it's a statement about how we're removing his voice from the hack. Whatever.
Originally posted by MrDeePay
Just replace the scene with Bowser still on the beach not giving a fuck about what's going on.

Alternatively, there could be another option: keep the panty scene, but with the anime replaced with Bowser. Everyone wins!

But anyways, yeah option 3 sounds nice

I'm also voting for option 3, but it's a shame you're making this more difficult than it needs to be.

This is not the vision I had for this game when I started it three years ago. There's a difference between throwing easter eggs in that actually fit with the hack at hand (e.g. the Bowser scene) and throwing in something totally non-sequitur that totally and singlehandedly destroys the immersion. Like others have said, it has nothing to do with being offended over it or anything like that, but rather the fact that it tarnishes an otherwise creative and professional credits scene.
3 it is

do whatever you want with my credits. i dont care anymore.

Thank guys appreciate the help. #smw{¬_¬}

Welp, now I need someone to actually finish the credits and actually add/remove what needs to be done.

Just can't catch a fucking break with this thing.#smw{-_-;}
Layout by LDA during C3.
Originally posted by Ladida
3 it is

do whatever you want with my credits. i dont care anymore.


The way you refer to them as "my credits" is enough insinuation to know you do. Nobody doesn't care about something they created, and nobody is trying to slight you as an artist; you're a brilliant one with an expressive style and the way you implemented this sequence shows this. When you create something like these credits, sort of a film in itself, I can see how being asked to change something is akin to invalidating the way you envisioned it and wanted it to be. However 100% that's not how people want it to go down. You can see the feedback for yourself, users have been very receptive of it so far. The only sticking matter is this one scene. It's sort of the contradiction that's present in a collaborative environment; everyone creates something individual to represent their togetherness. The fact of the matter is that your credits, created by you, is a showcase of the entire site and its individuals. Though I can understand not liking the idea of changing your art that portrays who you are and how you express yourself, surely you can be understanding and open to others who don't feel they are properly expressed in your work? It would be a pretty big shame to close this story like it is now.
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I personally don't think there's anything wrong with the credits. It's just for gags and it really expresses ladida's style. You should have seen that coming by assigning him to the project.
I don't think it's fair to call it quits because 3 people got some rustled jimmies.
I like it as it is.

1) This makes it a very interesting to see. Personally I usually (sorry for that) skip the credits. But not this time, It really has a entertaining value to me.

2) It is the end of the game. People who played this game already have seen the levels and gimmicks. So why would they dislike this game only by judging on the credits?

3) I think it has cost a lot of time and effort to create this. And it would a lot of time to redo everything. (And I'm pretty sure a lot of you are done with this project.)

4) It is impossible to make everyone happy. Sometimes you've got to let go.

And that is just my opinion.

(sorry about my grammar)
If I were to add a picture of a busty, bespectacled redhead that will pop up for a short at the beginning of all the bits I made, that would not be ok. It doesn't matter if it "expresses my style", it's entirely contrary to the theming of the rest of the hack. I wouldn't mind it too much of this were SMWCP1, that was very much a project that was each individual's voice coming through. SMWCP2, on the other hand, is not meant to have any individual's voice be clearly seen, it's meant to be a well organized choir where we all shape our voices into a single whole.

Edited to remove some venom, I'm not trying to hurt any feelings here, that's not my point.

We're not going to be redoing it, we're going to remove ot change the bits we don't like.

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Originally posted by nickofzo
2) It is the end of the game. People who played this game already have seen the levels and gimmicks. So why would they dislike this game only by judging on the credits?


You must be unaware at how fickle some people may be; and for something that's meant to represent the website as a whole, we do not want to take that risk. If this was something meant to represent a personal hack by Ladida or didn't represent SMWC as a whole, then not as many people would take issue.

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3) I think it has cost a lot of time and effort to create this. And it would a lot of time to redo everything. (And I'm pretty sure a lot of you are done with this project.)


I'm not too familiar with the ASM used to make this, but I'm sure that it wouldn't take too much time to replace or remove.

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4) It is impossible to make everyone happy. Sometimes you've got to let go.

And that is just my opinion.

(sorry about my grammar)



See above.

Originally posted by HuFlungDu
I'm going to add a picture of a busty, bespectacled redhead


Put her in a china dress and I'm sold sold sold.

But the character itself doesn't even have a big sex appeal. It might be inappropriate, but that's the joke behind it. It's not porn or something nearly as bad as the VLDC map.
It's really just not a big deal.
Okay, I know what you mean.
I still think that the credits are not part of the gameplay. Otherwise: if it is just the scene with the pants that will be removed so be it.
Originally posted by Torchkas
But the character itself doesn't even have a big sex appeal. It might be inappropriate, but that's the joke behind it. It's not porn or something nearly as bad as the VLDC map.
It's really just not a big deal.

Still not my point. Replace "busty redhead" in my post with "corndog" and the point still stands. I just like busty redheads more than corndogs...

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Originally posted by Torchkas
But the character itself doesn't even have a big sex appeal. It might be inappropriate, but that's the joke behind it. It's not porn or something nearly as bad as the VLDC map.
It's really just not a big deal.


It's still pointless and has no place at all in this collab (I'm not "offended" by it myself.) and any good that comes from it will be overshadowed by the bad. Especially with this stupid-ass "SJW" climate we're in today where people are offended even more by anything and everything. Save it for a personal work.

Originally posted by MrDeePay
It's still pointless and has no place at all in this collab (I'm not "offended" by it myself.) and any good that comes from it will be overshadowed by the bad. Especially with this stupid-ass "SJW" climate we're in today where people are offended even more by anything and everything. Save it for a personal work.

Was that last sentence really necessary or are you just trying to stir up a different argument

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People are offended by anything and everything and yes, I have seem people "play SJW" even with game mods. Best not to risk Site PR here.

The scene in question is more than enough to give people to work with.

Just include an option for people who get their jimmies rustled fast so that they don't get to have fun as they wished.

I just really don't want to deal with a different credits sequence. I think it's fine as is.
Originally posted by Torchkas
Just include an option for people who get their jimmies rustled fast so that they don't get to have fun as they wished.

I just really don't want to deal with a different credits sequence. I think it's fine as is.

Torchkas...

1: Is it REALLY necessary to insult the dissent as if your stance was the factually correct, completely objective one?
2: No one's saying to scrap the entire credits, just that one segment.
<Adam> I feel like smwc is a prostitute now, because we put up a porn ad for money
I think we have two options here, with the following consequences:

1. Remove the pantsu scene; apparently people who like it will be upset for a while, but it's just a few seconds of animation and they should eventually just forget about it;
2. Keep the pantsu scene; I foresee some shitstorming from that right after this decision is made, but it's just a few seconds of animation and a while later people - at least most people - will just stare at it warmheartedly. It's not like it ruins the entire hack, after all.

I'm kind of divided on this. I love the credits and I'm glad no one chose for revamping them entirely. That specific part adds up to the humor from my point of view, but honestly, if I saw a version without it first, I wouldn't feel something's missing. I'm sure Ladida could come up with something really fancy to replace that, and I still don't know why he's gone all ragequitter over that. However, I won't be one to complain if they stay either.

...I didn't help much, I know.
(Looks like this is my first post in the SMWCP2 forum.)
It's easily the best thing I've done
So why the empty numb?