Originally posted by MrDeePay
EDIT: Do NOT try to carry this discussion the "pantsu" scene any further unless an admin states otherwise.
bugger off, wanker (also, you typoed)
i hope it's ok that, as the source of the problem, i give my opinion on a few things and respond to some other things.
as much as I disagree with many of MrDeePay's points and views, he is right in that I should have learned my lesson from last time. Even though it's no longer a full-on naked woman, I should have realized a simple panty drop would still be too out-of-place for this hack. which brings me to the credits...
I do not see why the rest of the credits are not getting the same attention as the pantsu drop. as the creator of the credits, I can tell you that I created them with full intention to be completely out-of-place
, even going so far as to have them inspired by anime done by the studio that does bizarre and risque the best: Shaft. I think only HFD has seen my comments in the credits source, so I'll post it here:
dw EV_ORIG ;homage to original SMWCP credits
dw EV_SZS1 ;1st intermission, zetsubo-sensei's pseudo-1st OP
dw EV_BAKE ;bakemonogatari's title cards, ssb melee's debug menu
dw EV_SZS2 ;2nd intermission, zetsubo-sensei's 2nd OP (scene after horiz lines)
dw EV_MADO ;madoka magica's real ED (ep3+)
dw EV_SZS3 ;3rd intermission, zetsubo-sensei's kumeta animation
dw EV_ARAK ;arakawa under the bridge's 1st OP
dw EV_SZS4 ;4th intermission, zetsubo-sensei's 1st OP (hanging scene)
dw EV_HIDA ;hidamari sketch's 1st OP
dw EV_SZS5 ;5th intermission, zetsubo-sensei's title cards
dw EV_MARI ;maria holic's 1st ED, homage to SMW credits
dw EV_SZS6 ;6th intermission, same as 1st intermission
any "references" to "SMWC culture" or whatever is purely your imagination looking for a way to validate an otherwise out-of-place credits sequence
yet only EV_SZS3 causes drama, just because a pair of pantsu slide down a girl's legs, in a credits sequence where more out-of-place stuff occurs. this caught my attention. is this really about being "out-of-place"? or is it about the subject matter itself: a girl whose panties drop.
you might ask "why did you attempt to create a credits sequence that is completely out-of-place?". that brings us all the way back to SMWCP1 (repressed feelings lie ahead):
I didn't make any level for the first hack. However, I somehow managed to make the overworld border and alot of the standard sprite graphics. This made me happy.
jump to the beginning of SMWCP2
SNNNNNN talks with me about having a team of graphics designers for the hack, where me and a select few will design tilesets, sprites, whatever is needed. this made me pretty happy.
he ends up posting a free-for-all graphics thread
I guess i was mad, because I told myself I would not help with the hack. the level i was supposed to make ended up not being made
though in the end i make the overworld border
as well as some boss graphics
and some asm
i still felt like i hadn't done anything for the hack. i really wanted to... do something. OW border and graphics are not enough; I already did that in the first hack. i really wanted to make something that says "here is Ladida's work". so when this thread appeared, I jumped to it (the secondary reason is because I wanted to pwn jimmy's credits). attention-starving? yes. I just wanted people to go "haha nice Ladida". instead, I get a 3-month-delayed "WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING LADIDA".
but yeah, I've learned my lesson. I know people like MDP, imamelia, maybe alcaro, don't want me anywhere near a future collab. I can, and will, respect that.
back to the credits:
i created them with the intention to be fully seen. the fact that 1 scene is out really irks me. even doing something like the BABY thing is pretty dumb in my eyes; they are credits, not some QTE (also, very early in the thread the argument was brought up that the credits shouldn't have player input, and I followed that through). That's why I said "all or nothing": not to create some hostage-like situation, but for the credits' sake. though, like others have brought up, you can't really have your wishes respected in a collaboration. I still would highly prefer my credits not be used if one scene is going to be removed or replaced, for all the reasons I explained earlier.
regarding the shitstorm:
to be honest, i really was contemplating leaving the site. this felt like the last straw for me. i've been fed up with numerous things and this was the tipping point. though, gladly for some, sadly for others, i'm still here. i'm happy that there are people that supported me greatly through all this (while others were just shitposting). and i'm happy that there are people who disagreed with what i've done but did so respectfully, like HuFlungDu (and I'm deeply sorry for him; he was the epicenter when I wasn't. all of this was because I acted prematurely).
you can't have argument without gum, which sticks us all together
please kill me for this lame pun
there's still alot of stuff I really don't like, such as this whole "site PR" thing people have been pushing, or the whole direction SMWC has been going, or the quality of the community, but that's unrelated to the credits themselves so I'll leave it out of this thread.
I am still going to depart from the credits, however, you can keep my name. Remove the pantsu scene if you must, but I wish it could be acknowledged that it existed, for the credits' sake and my sake. that's just my wish; no need to do anything about it. it's a collab after all. ideas come and go
that's all i guess. thank you for your time
if there's one thing i learned from all this, it's that falconpunch's idiocy is really underestimated