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Fred Phelps is Dead
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Fred Phelps, the founder of the Westboro Baptist Church, passed away on March 19th 2014. His group became infamous for their extreme hatred of those that weren't in their group, particularly soldiers and homosexuals and protesting funerals and picketing.

While some say he deserves it, others claim doing so makes them no better than Phelps himself.

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Originally posted by TomPhanto
While some say he deserves it, others claim doing so makes them no better than Phelps himself.


Some people said the same thing when Bin Laden died that celebrating his death made you no better than him. This to me implies that there's no difference between a heinous individual like Fred Phelps and a morally normal person. It's not wrong to judge someone based on their actions. I for one am glad he's dead because I like it when bad people die.

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I've never cared about being the bigger person, so I'm glad he's finally in hell where he belongs.
Eh, reveling in another person's death sounds kind of like what Fred Phelps would do. I'm not happy or sad that he's gone, just sad that he caused so much pain.

The one good thing about him is that he served as a great unifying force for his enemies. I haven't heard anyone outside the WBC ever say they approve his efforts.

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The basic idea is that a morally responsible person will not use the same logic to justify their behavior that an immoral person would use to justify their immoral behavior.

Ex: "They're evil so they should die" is not a good argument for the same reason Fred Phelps using "they're evil so they should die" isn't a good argument. You have to justify it with more than that, which anyone responding to this undoubtedly will do.
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As much as I disagree with Fred Phelps, when morals and beliefs are thrown aside, I get down to the bare fact that he was just pushing the first amendment right to the fullest. I thought the shitstorms created by his activity were more funny than he was offensive since his right to express his opinions was constitutionally protected. I believe his media success is because people reacted so strongly. WBC antics and the stigma around WBC amused me.

People were just as free to demonstrate against his beliefs if so they desired, and I think despite his activity and the memories that are had of him, people are inevitably going to move towards giving gays the rights that I personally think they're entitled to as human beings as time goes on.

I don't think he's on the same plane as bin Laden since he didn't plot the deaths of thousands of people in the name of a twisted perception of Islam, though, so I personally never felt that I should celebrate this. Phelps was a man of controversial opinions, and while he expressed that, I don't believe he laid a hand on a single one of the people who were upset by him in the name of violence.
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Originally posted by Counterfeit
I don't think he's on the same plane as bin Laden


Oh I didn't mean to equate the two. Of course Bin Laden was way worse than Phelps I just wanted to use Bin Laden as an example of how far people would go with the bullshit equivalence of "well if you're glad he's dead then you're no better.".

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