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Originally posted by BlackMageMario
If I'm being honest, I have problems with guys and girls who sleep with a lot of other people. I don't think it's right, but that's my view. I wouldn't harass someone over it however... I just think it wouldn't look good (within reason. If a person has had a lot of actual relationships, not just sexual ones and one-night stands, then I wouldn't have a problem, I guess). People who harass others like that are just assholes, and it does seem to happen to more girls than boys.
Also, the problem with multiple sexual partners is the spread of STDs. There are plenty of people I know who just can't stand sex with protection, and that's a big part of how STDs get around.

Apart from that, I agree with you and I find it morally wrong, but I don't judge a person on their sexual activity unless it's going to impact me personally (e.g. having to worry about being cheated on or getting a disease that could potentially result in my death.)

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Pretty much, it seems. I don't know why - but I think it's down to societal pressures and how women are more constrained because of this and are expected to not... go around as much as men (though those attitudes are clearly changing in the younger generation - now everybody fucks everybody :v).
Yeah, and people are becoming sexually active and expressive younger than what society sets the bar at. Remember Jessi Slaughter and how she was 11 or so when she showed pictures of her breasts online at her own will, and then what happened to her after that? Not only does it bait pedophiles, it baits bullying. (It also baits online justice, but with some of it crossing the threshold into harassment, the person and the media often loses sight of the lesson and focuses on the threats and insults.) It wasn't uncommon in the days of ancient Rome and Greece for young women to be involved in sex. Now it's a social taboo (AND it's illegal!!) because it's known what kind of impact sex can have on the mind and body of a very young person. There's also the fact that if you're too young for a job, you probably can't support a baby with your own resources and therefore are a burden. The ubiquity of sex in the media makes me believe sex education and the dangers of sharing l3wds and n00ds should be taught much earlier in schools than it is.

Sex as a status symbol is just the dumbest thing I've ever heard, but school kids will be school kids. -.-;

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The only reason I have to explain this from a historical point of view is biology and how it makes sense for a man to have lots of pathners so they can spread their gens around more and because men aren't really constrained in how many partners they can have, but it makes sense for a women biologically to only have one partner, since they can only have a limited amount of children. Of course, using biology as an excuse for anything tends to end badly.
Even in the wild, females end up having multiple partners. Some female animals wander alone and find a mate, get groovy, and go their separate ways, and the female will care for and protect their young until they're able to sustain themselves (or in some cases, the animals are on their own from the beginning.) Some animals do have their own societies, like lions having large prides, and the dominant male will pass his seed on to the females... but when that dominant male is challenged and defeated, the new alpha gets that honor for the next generation.

The only thing I can pull from my statement above and apply universally to modern humanity is that our babies are incapable of surviving without care, and that won't change because it's a limitation of the infant's body. Cultures around the world have their own rules on these things and I can't vouch for how much of them have roots in nature because I only know my own culture. Honor killings (some of which are done in the name of controlling who a daughter has sexual relations with) are incredibly disturbing to me and I'd really like to know the origin of them.

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I agree. Men aren't exactly privilaged when it comes to access even their own children and divorce cases don't usually end well for men with children, even if they would probably be the better caretaker (although divorce is a hilariously terrible complex thing, and I wished that less marriages ended in divorce). In the end though, women do experience more sexism. We can't ignore sexism against men though.
I, too, notice that unless the woman is batshit insane and trying to kill her children, the courts generally give custody of the kids to the mother. =/

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Originally posted by aj6666
And this is what I meant when I said "extreme feminists". I know the difference but I don't totally agree with normal feminism either. I care for gender equality and making a big issue every time a woman is sexualized but when a mam gets sexualized nobody cares is not my way to see equality.

Because man getting over-sexualized is not a cultural issue. Not only are mens very rarely sexualized in culturally relevant medias (by that I mean, stuff that are watched and talked about by a significant amount of peoples) but the current gender role for women is mostly based around their appearance which can lead to women having serious issue because of the pressure the society inflict on them. Men receive almost no pressure for their appearance so it don't cause the same issue as a when a women is over-sexualized. In a perfect world, both would be judged the same way, but there is currently way too much cultural pressure on sexual role to do that.
Originally posted by aj6666
Just because women have more issues than men, it doesn't mean men don't have issues that women don't have.

But a lot of issue mens are facing is because of the issue womens are facing. For instance, mens are not seen as good parent because women are expected to be the one caring for the children. Mens are also seen as poor cook because the women are expected to be the one cooking. Mens are expected to take an active role in the relationship because womens are expected to have a passive role. Mens are seen as potential rapist because the women is expected to dress decently and not attract their attention. In that way, I think that men would benefit a lot from feminism
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Originally posted by Bio
Because man getting over-sexualized is not a cultural issue. Not only are mens very rarely sexualized in culturally relevant medias (by that I mean, stuff that are watched and talked about by a significant amount of peoples) but the current gender role for women is mostly based around their appearance which can lead to women having serious issue because of the pressure the society inflict on them. Men receive almost no pressure for their appearance so it don't cause the same issue as a when a women is over-sexualized. In a perfect world, both would be judged the same way, but there is currently way too much cultural pressure on sexual role to do that.
A thing I notice that perpetuates the problem of there being so much pressure on women to be beautiful is how some photographs you see of famous women (i.e. the movie stars) are photoshopped to remove blemishes like acne or scars, or they're covered in cosmetics. Now, if people are showered in this stuff, they're going to hold OTHERS to this standard of "perfection" and "beauty."

I personally don't believe in the use of make-up and see it as insecurity about one's self, and I always question my friend and my mom when they buy cosmetics with me around, saying things like, "why do you need to paint yourself to be beautiful?" "Why are you ashamed of your natural self?" I see make-up as part of the issue, so I take it upon myself to be clean and diet responsibly, and hide nothing about my appearance, and honestly if you do just that, it surprises people.

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But a lot of issue mens are facing is because of the issue womens are facing. For instance, mens are not seen as good parent because women are expected to be the one caring for the children. Mens are also seen as poor cook because the women are expected to be the one cooking. Mens are expected to take an active role in the relationship because womens are expected to have a passive role. Mens are seen as potential rapist because the women is expected to dress decently and not attract their attention. In that way, I think that men would benefit a lot from feminism
I think this is unfortunate... these social views are really archaic. I think men and women can be held a lot to the same standards on things like cooking, parenting, and financially supporting the family. There are plenty of known male cooks, some of which are the most famous chefs in the world, which can represent a man's value in cooking. We need more of a spotlight on role model fathers... rich and assertive women, too.

Dressing racy is shameful no matter the sex in my opinion, but I think rape is generally more of a power thing than a sexual arousal you can't manage so you absolutely MUST find something fleshy to stick it in. Dressing in a way that exposes enough of your body to turn somebody on certainly doesn't help things, but I believe there are many more factors as people who dress decently also get raped. The vast majority of men have no desire to ever rape anybody, and extreme feminism portrays all men as potential rapists, especially by attempting to redefine rape as something more than forcible sex with an unwilling entity. =/
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Originally posted by Bio
Because man getting over-sexualized is not a cultural issue. Not only are mens very rarely sexualized in culturally relevant medias (by that I mean, stuff that are watched and talked about by a significant amount of peoples) but the current gender role for women is mostly based around their appearance which can lead to women having serious issue because of the pressure the society inflict on them. Men receive almost no pressure for their appearance so it don't cause the same issue as a when a women is over-sexualized. In a perfect world, both would be judged the same way, but there is currently way too much cultural pressure on sexual role to do that.

I disagree. As a man, I have received more than "almost no pressure" for my appearance, and I've met other men that have too. Being thin I'm constantly told I should put on some weight, and when it's not that, I'm told to shave my beard or cut my hair. I once had to do it so I could enter as a practitioner in a hospital, while women had no problem working with long hair. Women have a sexual role, yes, an imposed role that leads to unfair expectations and pressure. But you don't seem to acknowledge that said role exists for men too. I'll get to that in my next point.

Originally posted by Bio
But a lot of issue mens are facing is because of the issue womens are facing. For instance, mens are not seen as good parent because women are expected to be the one caring for the children. Mens are also seen as poor cook because the women are expected to be the one cooking. Mens are expected to take an active role in the relationship because womens are expected to have a passive role. Mens are seen as potential rapist because the women is expected to dress decently and not attract their attention. In that way, I think that men would benefit a lot from feminism

This brings us to the chicken or the egg dilemma. Is it that men are seen as bad cooks because women expected to be the ones doing it?, or is it that women are expected to cook because men are seen as bad cooks? That said, being seen as "bad cooks" or "bad parents" is not even a bit of the problem, and if you think those are the biggest issues men have to face every day, you should really, really check again. As I said men also hold a sexual role, as a man you are expected to be strong and overly confident about everything you do. You are expected to solve all of your problems yourself with no help from anyone. You are not allowed to cry or express sadness, discomfort, or any form of emotional expressions (except anger and joy in some occasions) and if you do, you are told to "man-up and stop whining". You must be into sports or though stuff and you cannot be into cute things. You must have muscles, short hair, wear shirts and pants and you are allowed to wear next to no accessories. There's probably more but that's all I can think of right now.

Both men and women have imposed roles in society, if you follow them, there's no problem, but if you don't you’ll have to deal with lots of pressure at best. You cannot just focus on one side of the issue thinking that removing one will automatically make the other disappear. Neither of these roles will go away unless they are both tackled at the same time.
Okay, this is insane. How did we branch offtopic into this? With this thread at over 2000 viwes my mind is blown by this. I think we should shift this over to the IRC.

I want to say let's close this thread, but i don't think its really worth closing.

But sereously, wtf?!
Except it hasn't drifted off topic in the slightest aside from that small argument between Tanooki and HFD.

It's a discussion, you don't have to stay if you don't want to. Don't make a thread about a controversial topic expecting it not to blow up.
Originally posted by Counterfeit
I personally don't believe in the use of make-up and see it as insecurity about one's self


THANK THE GODS I'VE FOUND A WOMAN WHO AGREES WITH ME ON THIS.

... no seriously, I hate make-up. I don't see the point, I find women without make-up to look better, they look more natural and real. Make-up is just temporary shit.

Also what's a table-kun and how do I get one.

Originally posted by aj6666
This brings us to the chicken or the egg dilemma. Is it that men are seen as bad cooks because women expected to be the ones doing it?, or is it that women are expected to cook because men are seen as bad cooks? That said, being seen as "bad cooks" or "bad parents" is not even a bit of the problem, and if you think those are the biggest issues men have to face every day, you should really, really check again. As I said men also hold a sexual role, as a man you are expected to be strong and overly confident about everything you do. You are expected to solve all of your problems yourself with no help from anyone. You are not allowed to cry or express sadness, discomfort, or any form of emotional expressions (except anger and joy in some occasions) and if you do, you are told to "man-up and stop whining". You must be into sports or though stuff and you cannot be into cute things. You must have muscles, short hair, wear shirts and pants and you are allowed to wear next to no accessories. There's probably more but that's all I can think of right now.

Both men and women have imposed roles in society, if you follow them, there's no problem, but if you don't you’ll have to deal with lots of pressure at best. You cannot just focus on one side of the issue thinking that removing one will automatically make the other disappear. Neither of these roles will go away unless they are both tackled at the same time.


You must have gotten really shitty luck, because nobody has ever really told me to man up or shit. I've cried and somewhat whined some times (while also genuinely expressing sadness), I have a full emotional spectrum, I sometimes solve my problems on my own but I ask for help, etc... all in real life and on the internet. People accept me for who I am. I guess it's partly because I haven't let them change me or just, idk, maybe I made them respect me because I try to respect them? Or maybe we're all mature and shit \-(^o^)-/

As for the whole societal views and shit, really I think today those are only held by a minority of stuck in the dirty conservatists and dumb butthole people. Men and women are expected to cook (I really need to learn that...) and to be good parents (I don't have to worry about this at my age.

I hope to god my classmates aren't worrying about this at my age.)

I just really can't agree with you on some of the points above. However, I do think that the reasons men and women have problems now is not because of this or that, it's been down to the societal changes taht have come about as women and have gotten more and more of the rights they deserve, and how some assbutts can't adjust to that - or are trying to destroy men. Or women. Yeah. Some people need to find a new hobby >_>

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Originally posted by SuperAgentYoshi
Okay, this is insane. How did we branch offtopic into this? With this thread at over 2000 viwes my mind is blown by this. I think we should shift this over to the IRC.

I want to say let's close this thread, but i don't think its really worth closing.

But sereously, wtf?!

People are speculating/discussing the underlying mechanisms in society that would contribute to the phenomenon in the original post you authored.

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I know that many, many, many parents, mine included, have chastised their male children for crying. It's certainly not uncommon to hear it from peers either, depends on how vocal they are. In my experience, I used to get stares and glances.. but I suppose that happens regardless of gender.

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Originally posted by Ultimaximus
I know that many, many, many parents, mine included, have chastised their male children for crying. It's certainly not uncommon to hear it from peers either, depends on how vocal they are. In my experience, I used to get stares and glances.. but I suppose that happens regardless of gender.
I think it really does happen more with males, but some people really enjoy making a girl cry too. It's "funny" when someone expresses their emotions, their anguish... and then you have the people, like my father, who will try and beat you for expressing it, and call you a baby. My dad was furious at me tonight because I got out of work late for circumstances beyond my control, started yelling, screaming, so I returned it, and he tried to hit me. Wouldn't let me out of the vehicle even though I pleaded for him to just let me go.
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Sadly, sex sells so scholars still stand strong serving stations.

You'll see a lot of animated media where female protagonists wear revealing clothes. In real life, female soldiers would be wearing the same proper uniform as the male soldiers, while in the media, some would go into battle half-naked.

I think the reason for this is that a majority of male viewers are lustful and thus get attracted to this kind of thing. Some female YouTubers, like MissHannahMinx have even taken advantage of this by simply vlogging while showing off her clevage. And the videos where she covers chest get less views.

I do agree that this occurance is overdone, but unfortunately, some people profit off of sexualization of women, and it doesn't seem like it'll stop anytime soon.

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Originally posted by I personally don't believe in the use of make-up and see it as insecurity about one's self, and I always question my friend and my mom when they buy cosmetics with me around, saying things like, "why do you need to paint yourself to be beautiful?" "Why are you ashamed of your natural self?" I see make-up as part of the issue, so I take it upon myself to be clean and diet responsibly, and hide nothing about my appearance, and honestly if you do just that, it surprises people.


I thought I was the only girl who never wore make up just for that reason! I just wash my face and tend to myself as best as I can. If I wore make up I feel like I would not really be myself. I may not meet the expectations of women on magazine covers, but I have people who like me for who I am. Surprisingly enough, people actually respect you for not wearing makeup. The last time I wore makeup to really focus on my appearance was when I was going to Adam's prom as his date. (It was prom I wanted to look more fabulous then usual lol)

Originally posted by Because man getting over-sexualized is not a cultural issue. Not only are mens very rarely sexualized in culturally relevant medias (by that I mean, stuff that are watched and talked about by a significant amount of peoples) but the current gender role for women is mostly based around their appearance which can lead to women having serious issue because of the pressure the society inflict on them. Men receive almost no pressure for their appearance so it don't cause the same issue as a when a women is over-sexualized. In a perfect world, both would be judged the same way, but there is currently way too much cultural pressure on sexual role to do that.


I have to disagree I know a lot of males who feel pressured just as much as women to look thin and muscular. You may not hear about it as much as the issue with women, but that doesn't mean it is not there.

Originally posted by I know that many, many, many parents, mine included, have chastised their male children for crying. It's certainly not uncommon to hear it from peers either, depends on how vocal they are. In my experience, I used to get stares and glances.. but I suppose that happens regardless of gender.


I think this also proves that boys are suppose to be emotionless and be a "man". I don't see the problem with someone actually having some feelings and not afraid to express it. Unless it is difficult for said person to allow themselves too. This just goes to prove how fucked up society is, women have to act and dress a certain way, and men must do the same. Everything has this double standard and hypocrites.

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Now for my personal experience on over sexualization of media. I am pretty sick of hearing people getting irritated about how others discuss this topic. What is that supposed to mean? That there really is no problem? Well there is! A lot of girls at a young age are being told how they are bossy or "you can't do this you are a girl", etc. When I was a kid I got teased a lot for trying to play videogames with some of the guys at a daycare center. Further into my entrance in middle school, I notice how everyone started to hit puberty and girls (including myself) were being harassed about our bodies. Women are expected to be curvy with luscious tits and a ass. Now today there is the problem with women out there developing eating disorders to be a certain weight. Now we have the issue of people putting others with a different body type down in order to support the other. Naturally skinny girls are a bag of bones and girls who have more weight on them are apparently mcdonald whores. Another issue I see a lot is how EVERYONE begs to see the naked female body, and when someone reveals it, then that said female automatically becomes a "hoe". Really? I see a huge double standard with any sexual about a women. Apparently we are sluts unless we stay abstinent. On the other hand, it is more socially acceptable to know that "boys will be boys" and their urges are "manly" etc. To make my point more clear, I have dated very few guys but the ones I was with had someone in their family that would offer them condoms for safe sex, while I on the other hand got told to keep my legs shut. Do we all see the problem here? Not to mention the moment a young girl gets pregnant she get shammed so HARD. It makes me wonder if the moment teen pregnancy comes into play that everyone just suddenly throws the concept of "it takes two to tango" out the door and we all just blame the girl. Really? I will call BS on that. Another thing I would like to mention, being a girl means you are raised to be told how to avoid certain situations that can make you a easy target for kidnapping or raped. We are told how to cover ourselves up and to avoid going to certain parties etc. Do young males get told these things? I highly doubt it, maybe for the consideration of "get home before it gets dark" etc.

I know that HUGE writing I did may come off as if I am some crazy SJW. I'm not trying to come off as one, but this was a bit of information from my personal experiences as a girl dealing with societies standards for women. It is real, it is a problem. (There are also similar issues with men as well)

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I don't see make-up as necessarily a bad thing. Yes, there is the mentality that women must use it to feel less insecure about their own appearance and I agree that someone shouldn't feel like they NEED it as a crutch for their beauty at all times, but that's not always the case

Some people are just passionate about make-up such as make-artists who take pride in their work on themselves and on others. If it can serve as a positive extension of one's individualism, I say go for it. Someone shouldn't have to feel like they're being shamed or mocked for wearing something just cause it's not their natural look, because they LIKE IT; not because their uncomfortable in their own skin.
If using it to accentuate one's self is still considered a bad thing, then throw away all of your jewelry, nice hats, any clothing with lace, ruffles, sequins, or writing on it; anything that accentuates you in any way through your appearance should be denounced as well; there's no cherry picking the argument.

I personally like make-up. I think it's a neat craft if kept in the proper context. And, many make-up artists I've met are super talented people who live for their craft.

Like I said, I agree that it shouldn't be a crutch for people's appearance, but i disagree that make-up all together should be shamed and be instantly presumed or concluded as such.

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The last time I wore makeup to really focus on my appearance was when I was going to Adam's prom as his date. (It was prom I wanted to look more fabulous then usual lol)

btw, good example of said positive self-accentuation, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by rwhan
A lot of girls at a young age are being told how they are bossy or "you can't do this you are a girl", etc. When I was a kid I got teased a lot for trying to play videogames with some of the guys at a daycare center.
Yeah, it kinda irks me that video games were stereotypically a boy thing. Nowadays, it's estimated that a third of game console users are female. Still a minority. There are more games that are "specifically aimed" at girls, like Nintendogs and things like that... but they really just teach us tasks like caring for animals, games based on popular girl toys like Zoobles, cooking, fashion, maintaining places, it's all casual. I prefer games with depth, action, or strategy, you know, the ones made "for boys" or something.

I'd like to see the distinction between a boy thing and a girl thing be torn down and just let people decide what they like for themselves rather than indoctrinate them on how to look and what to like. Example: I rejected dresses at a young age. Stopped wearing them and skirts when I was 6. Only bought a dress a year ago because I anticipated going to a USMC ball, but we ended up never going, so now I only hold it in case of some very formal event. Most of what I have for clothes is related to gaming or music. I do have some unusual things like a Kyubey hat, a Pikachu cosplay sweater, and some military surplus (I love my Austrian M65 OD parka and winter field hat) - I definitely don't think people would consider milsurp to be girly by any means, but anime/Pokémon goes both ways.

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Further into my entrance in middle school, I notice how everyone started to hit puberty and girls (including myself) were being harassed about our bodies. Women are expected to be curvy with luscious tits and a ass.
I began puberty at age 9 (breasts, ugghhh.... hated them then, hate them now.) I never got hit on for it. I DID, however, feel embarrassed as hell. My breasts were large in middle school and I got unwanted attention for it but it wasn't sexual advances, just comments like "nice jugs" that I didn't care for. I lost a considerable amount of weight and I'm not terribly curvy, though I still am not happy with my breast size: they need to be smaller.

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Now today there is the problem with women out there developing eating disorders to be a certain weight.
True story. Have you ever heard of Karen Carpenter? She was a famous singer in her days and a great person. She ended up developing anorexia nervosa and died of complications leading to cardiac arrest; she had a lot of insecurity about her weight. This was in the early 1980s. Communication makes the problem more known today than it ever was before and it's going to have to be argued and argued and argued until the social pressure to be lean and fit is finally relaxed.

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Now we have the issue of people putting others with a different body type down in order to support the other. Naturally skinny girls are a bag of bones and girls who have more weight on them are apparently mcdonald whores.
We've got all kinds of names... skinny people have to put up with being called "twiggy" or "stick" or "skeleton" and large people get called "landwhale" or you hear things like "DANGER! WIDE LOAD!" and stuff like that. I think everyone gets criticized, and even if you're average weight, someone will look at you one way and place you on another end of the spectrum. Most important thing is that we're all healthy despite our weight. People who are a plain, healthy 140 pounds and are my height worry about how fat they are and how they'll die of a heart attack when they're in no danger and I feel the need to remind them their BMI doesn't place them clearly in the overweight range, and that overweight is far lower risk than underweight or obesity.

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Another issue I see a lot is how EVERYONE begs to see the naked female body, and when someone reveals it, then that said female automatically becomes a "hoe". Really? I see a huge double standard with any sexual about a women.
Internet double-standard and partially a (stupid) internet cultural joke, e.g. sayings like "there are no girls on the internet" or "tits or gtfo." Most guys I know IRL aren't terribly eager to see a naked woman. Your body is your own business though, and you shouldn't feel obligated to volunteer it. I don't volunteer mine, and I was asked for nudes at the ripe, young and naive age of 15 and still said no. Never send someone, not even you love, a picture of yourself nude, if you're afraid of the rest of the world seeing it. It's not an issue of "damned if I do, damned if I don't" - feel smug and powerful about denying someone the opportunity to chastise you for exposing your body instead of uncomfortable with having to make a bad decision to please everyone, in my opinion.

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Apparently we are sluts unless we stay abstinent.
Not gonna deny it, even in a committed relationship, I was hesitant to have relations because I'd feel like a slut... even with the engagement ring on. Had never done it with anyone else before. I strongly feel what you are saying.

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On the other hand, it is more socially acceptable to know that "boys will be boys" and their urges are "manly" etc.
I criticize anyone who has promiscuous sex equally. :) (But that probably makes me an even bigger asshole than just those who call the women "whores" :V)

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To make my point more clear, I have dated very few guys but the ones I was with had someone in their family that would offer them condoms for safe sex, while I on the other hand got told to keep my legs shut. Do we all see the problem here? Not to mention the moment a young girl gets pregnant she get shammed so HARD. It makes me wonder if the moment teen pregnancy comes into play that everyone just suddenly throws the concept of "it takes two to tango" out the door and we all just blame the girl.
Yeah, it really does take two. Both parties are equally at fault because an egg doesn't fertilize itself. I think people are harsher on the girl (especially the parents) because a teen doesn't usually have the financial means or availability to raise a child without dropping out of school and getting a job and the parents would then have to worry about helping raise the child. A would-be teen father might bail on you because of the fear of responsibility for a baby. So, there's really not enough support... and if you'd look into abortion, think about the weight going through with it would have on your conscience. I don't know what kind of obligations a male teen who took part in the accident would have if he chose to avoid the situation... I know in many places, an adult father has to pay child support if they parents are separated. That said, I can't imagine the parents of the boy would be too happy to find out he knocked a girl up. And, teens use sex as a status symbol and find it hardcore for a guy to get a girl pregnant and then make fun of the girl and treat her like a failure. T_T;

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Another thing I would like to mention, being a girl means you are raised to be told how to avoid certain situations that can make you a easy target for kidnapping or raped. We are told how to cover ourselves up and to avoid going to certain parties etc. Do young males get told these things? I highly doubt it, maybe for the consideration of "get home before it gets dark" etc.
Carry a concealed weapon or pepper spray if you are able to so if somebody does try to forcibly rape, kidnap, or kill you, you have a means of scaring them away or neutralizing them. It's said that 1 in 5 women will be sexually abused in their lifetime, and it's also been said that more women are picking up reliable means of self-defense than ever before. It is your natural-born right to defend yourself if your life is in danger. ;)

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I know that HUGE writing I did may come off as if I am some crazy SJW. I'm not trying to come off as one, but this was a bit of information from my personal experiences as a girl dealing with societies standards for women. It is real, it is a problem. (There are also similar issues with men as well)
It's frustrating, but I do my best to ignore people because, you know, people are full of shit.

@Face: that is actually a good point about make-up and one I never considered, but it's also one I rarely see locally. Most people I know who use make-up feel like they're unprofessional or ugly without it, but my friend just douses herself with glittery make-up and glittery hairspray because she likes it and doesn't care what other people think about her glitter.

I kind of do like face paint, on a similar note. It was always awesome as a kid to see those events outside of school where people would paint butterflies, hearts, stars, Bulbasaurs, or "masks" on kids' faces for a small fee. That's the kind of cosmetic use I'd consider artistic or expressive.
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Originally posted by rwhan
being a girl means you are raised to be told how to avoid certain situations that can make you a easy target for kidnapping or raped. We are told how to cover ourselves up and to avoid going to certain parties etc. Do young males get told these things? I highly doubt it


Being a guy myself I think I can make a point about that.

Women I think are bigger targets for that kind of stuff because most of the people who do those things to women are perverts. I'm not saying that they do this to guys as well, but like I said, women are a higher target for them.

Originally posted by rwhan
A lot of girls at a young age are being told how they are bossy or "you can't do this you are a girl", etc.


Well that's kinda sexist (the female restrictions I mean, idk about being told that you're bossy tho')

Originally posted by rwhan
When I was a kid I got teased a lot for trying to play videogames with some of the guys at a daycare center. Further into my entrance in middle school


Thats probably because either they were just being sexist, or they were surprised and it might make the boys feel awkward seeing as most women don't play video games.

Originally posted by rwhan
Women are expected to be curvy with luscious tits and a ass.


Because people are objectifying assholes. I personally think that your body (for the most part) doesn't mean squat and you should care about personality more. But NO, people just can't seem to do that.

Originally posted by rwhan
Naturally skinny girls are a bag of bones and girls who have more weight on them are apparently mcdonald whores.


Again, objectifying assholes.

Originally posted by rwhan
I have dated very few guys but the ones I was with had someone in their family that would offer them condoms for safe sex, while I on the other hand got told to keep my legs shut.


Well some parents (mine included) aren't so worried about having sex if its with someone who you truly love even if you're under 18. Normally it shouldn't get to that level but if somehow something like that arose, be sure to be safe. My guess is parents who have a daughter are more worried about guys who really don't care and just wanna have sex or something along those lines. Allow me to quote Bernie Mac: "When you have a boy, its one penis to worry about. When you have a girl, its everybody's penis to worry about".

Sorry if my thoughts were really jumbled up but its just my opinion. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong.
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