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Ganymede - It is never going to go away.
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It's me again with my baby! Thank you so much for clicking on this link. Now that I've got your attention, I hope that I can hold it for awhile, because I have stories to tell you, and a HUGE game for you to play. Click on the first link below and take a trip to an island full of things and such. I've been saying for years that this hack was enormous, with dozens of large and complex levels. Now you can see, for yourself, that I don't boast. You can navigate through the entire map and play any of those dozens of levels. This is a full game, if not entirely polished or completed. This is simply a snapshot of where it has progressed to this point. You can spend hours, and days, exploring everything there is to see.

On that note, fair warning: C3 is a narrow window, and I had to spend over a month, working daily, to get the last demo in a release shape. This sampler is not release shape. You may encounter wonky palettes, glitched graphics, or other things you would not find acceptable in an actual release. There is some music, but most of the levels do not have any. There should not be many such imperfections, but they are there and I just don't have the time to fix everything. You are likelier to encounter this, the further you get from the beginning of the game. That said, you should be able to play, and complete, just about every level that you can access.

Ganymede is my baby, I've poured tens of thousands of hours into this hack, with who knows how many more to come. I hope most sincerely that you find joy in these efforts. That's at least half the point of me doing this.

Most Recent Playable Build (YOU WILL LOVE IT OR YOUR MONEY BACK):
The Official Summer C3 Sampler
NEW! (11-8-2018) The game's harrowing opening scene:
Leaving Everything I Once Knew
Official Trailer:
Back of My Eyelids
Complete Video Walkthrough (of the previous demo):
The evolution of Ganymede:
38 Months of Progress


Wake up, go to work, pay the bills. Feed the dog. Do what you're told, so that you may steal a few moments throughout the day to do what you want. Cope. Deal. Speak to people who can't stop talking. Buy. Sell. Watch. Be angry, be happy, be sad, pass judgment, when prompted to do so. Wash, rinse, sleep, repeat.

It started off with nothing left to desire. It was just one day, exactly like any other. Another turn around the hamster wheel, another day married to routine. It was a day not dissimilar to thousands the man had already seen come and go, except for the fact that this was the day he decided he would be the one to go. Enough is enough, already. Clean break.

A thunderous squall appears on the horizon and rolls, barrel-like, over the water. Gentle waves grow into shark's teeth. And the man and his boat are all there is for them to chew upon.

The same raging sea which put the man to sleep becomes, some time later, the same gently foaming caress which brings him back to consciousness. Land ho, it appears. The coast stretches into seeming infinity in either direction. Not far away, a broken hull rests upon a rock. Splintered remains, carried by the tide, lie in the sand. He must have swam, but there wasn't much to remember in the dark and chaos. His only evidence is himself, standing here on a coast.

Leaving the wreck behind, the man sets off in search of, well, anything. It is, he reflects, a life much simplified. It is, he reflects, a life with needs fewer in number but much more demanding. A stomach needs filling. Thirst needs quenching. So, there's plenty to do. For having brushed up against death so closely, so recently, it is no small wonder that the man feels so much more vividly alive than he can remember being in a long time.

He had a map. It was just part of the process, you brought a map along with you when you got on a boat. It had been some time since he had needed to use it, but you just never know. And that was the funny thing, was that there was not any coast. Not according to the map, at least. Not for a couple of thousand nautical miles, for sure.

He felt urged to amend, there was not supposed to be any coast. But it was what it was. And since it too was where he was, might this not actually be the place? Could this be the home he left home for?

Far off in the distance, massive cliffs tower over even the red hills before which he stands. It is in that direction the man takes his first steps, in search of nothing in particular, and in no sense ready for what he is going to find.


* denotes multiple exits

Part I: First Night a Free Man

1: Where It All Began
2: Red Steps
3: The Dying Light
4: The Stellar Reach *
5: Dunke's Wetworks
6: Back of My Eyelids

Part II: Such a Heavy Place to Be

7: The Unexamined Life
8: A Step Off the Edge 
9: Now I'm Torn in Two *

(The game hereafter is split into two paths,
comprising the bulk of the game. Each of these 
paths is exclusive and once you are set on either 
path, you cannot return for quite a long time). 

Part III: Cold As a Witch's Tit

10: Westerly Windbridge
11: Bombardier Traverse
12: No Will to Break 
13: Stabbing Swords
14: Cold Shoulder 
15: The Glass Knives *
16: Recidivist Ridge 
17: Now the Fuse is Lit
18: Hyperborea *
19: I'm Sad, Boo Hoo 
20: The Lunar Prison

Part IV: The Saga of the Low Down Let Down

21: Race a Rat or Two
22: The Sentinels *
23: Entanglement Temple
24: Brasswood Monster *
25: The Ephemeral Eaves *
26: Dance on a Pinpoint *
27: Into the Buzzsaw
28: Oppose and Destroy
29: Easterly Windbridge
30: The Soakpuddles 
31: Shouting As I Go *
32: The Dreams Are Bad

Part V: The Piss-Yellow Stench of Fear
33: The Arboropolis
34: Fear For the Worst
35: A Monument to Rot
36: Sweating Skeletons
37: The Bloodvault *
38: Malicious Wounding *
39: Fairyfire Abyss 
40: House of Many Teeth
41: The Rustflats *

Part VI: Compelled to Hate
42: By a Fingertip
43: The Nimbleknobs
44: Thaumaturge's Lab
45: Burn, Bleed, Break *
46: Rage and Love
47: In Need of a Savior *

Part VII: As Doomed As Everyone Else
48: A Bust in the Chops
49: Same As It Ever Was *
50: No Progress Here 
51: Drink With The Fish
52: No Man is an Island
53: Do Not Fear
54: Threadbare Notch

Part VIII: All My Dreams Show What Will Come of Me
55: Halls of Scission
56: There's No God Here *
57: Eternal Tears *
58: Curvilinear Canyon *
59: Thunderstomp *
60: Many Ways to Fail
61: Chasing Clouds *
62: To Scrape a Sky
63: Chewed Up, Spit Out 
64: Object Thru Object *
65: Underbelly
66: To Say The Truth

Total exits: 87
This lineup subject to change. 
All levels are fully playable with the exception of "Into the Buzzsaw"

☺ 60+- complex and attractive levels loaded with secrets, hidden areas and multiple paths. Each level is meticulously crafted over the course of weeks and months, each one is huge, complex, and designed so that different play styles produce different experiences. Each level uses unique graphics and themes.
☺ A story told in images and words, with three different endings that can be earned.
☺ A beautiful world map with divergent paths and many secrets. Finding everything will require you to go everywhere.
Quality gameplay. If you're not engaged, I'm wasting my time. If you are not rewarded, you are wasting your time. It will be familiar in some ways, but it should hopefully not be too familiar in any way.
☺ Extensive, and considered, use of ASM, some of which was made at my request, all of which was made by very helpful members. This wouldn't be possible without you.


Like everyone here, I'm just a person hacking an old ass game (though unlike a lot of people here, I am old enough that I was already a Mario veteran by the time Super Mario World was released. I've always been a huge fan of good 2D platformers and it has been my dream, since I was a kid, to make one of my own. Lunar Magic and SMW Central have helped me live a dream and I am forever grateful to those who have helped out in whatever way they have helped out.

I started this hack in early 2013. Though I had dabbled around with LM a few times over a few years previous, I had not made anything of note and I wasn't planning to here. I just liked turning the levels into something different and play the results. Well, after about a year, I had about 50 vanilla levels and a few pretensions about my level design ability. So, I came on here and showed off what I called Thoughtful Mario World. I released a playable demo in October 2014, and a few weeks later attempted to release it as a full hack, called Thoughtful Mario World, Part 1 (Part 2 was to be the remainder of the game). This was rejected, with advice I still refer to often, more than three years later.

I continued to work on TMW, learning how to do ExGFX and stuff, gradually improving a game I thought was mostly done. I had no real story in mind even after all this time, not even an excuse plot. And I am a storyteller at heart, so it bothered me that I had nothing to give in that regard.

Around this time, I got to hear an album by some band I hadn't heard of, and it turned out that the album is really amazing and I connected deeply with it on a personal level. It told the story of a man who became fed up with the people and the bullshit in his life and escapes it all to live in peace, far away. Having dealt with depression much of my life, and having also had experience having run away from everything I once knew, the seeds were planted. It was once I realized that the new world map I was making, had a wrecked ship at the starting area. It was a pretty big no duh moment for me, the moment when TMW became Ganymede, and Mario became the man on the boat.

Since then, I've had a clear goal in mind, and it's just a matter of doing the work necessary to produce the game I want to make. I aspire to make a hack unlike any other out there, one which is aesthetically pleasant, engaging to play, and maybe even makes you think a little when you're done playing. I want to make one of the greatest hacks this site has ever seen, and I'm patient and motivated. So buckle up, I guess.


1. The Departure (1:36)
2. The Storm (2:16)
3. Segue I (0:16)
4: The Island (3:26)
5: Segue II (0:47)
6. To Stay (3:53)
7. Janus (4:01)
8: Further (3:44)
9: Maybe I'll Stay Around (3:28)
10: The Nightmare (1:56)
11: Segue III (0:47)
12: To Leave (4:24)
13: Segue IV (0:49)
14: The Fire (1:43)
15: Realization (2:57)


Several people here have been instrumental in the success of this hack and directly helping me realize my vision. They are as follows:

K3fka/Vitor Vilela
Created a piece of ASM which increases the timer by one second for each coin collected.
MarioFanGamer/MFG/Manuel/Not "Mario"
Created a fantastic patch implementing an HP system using lives as HP.
Helped alter the 100 Coin Roulette patch to include a 1UP.
Created additional code for the above patch so that it correctly displays the 1UP sprite.
Crafted a nifty little ASM which expanded player character palette options.
Patched together a superior goal sphere

So today, I'm going to talk about some of the gameplay elements in Ganymede. It is a Super Mario World hack and the gameplay still goes in the same direction. I have not added new power ups. A lot of SMW pieces are still in there, but in different forms and for different reasons. Some elements are still yet to be implemented.

Since I am working on new graphics for the status bar, let's take a look, left to right:


There are no lives in Ganymede. You are probably going to get burned, beaten or stabbed to death quite a few times. It is a hard hack that requires skill (though it never strays into Kaizo territory). The only penalty for losing is that you have to try again.

Designed by MarioFanGamer, Ganymede has a unique and simple health system. To start, the man on the boat has a maximum HP of 5 and a starting HP of 3. In all adult forms, any damage taken reduces his HP by 2. In child form, he loses 3 HP when harmed. When he is hit while riding his stuffed friend who once was Yoshi, he will take 1 HP damage regardless of his current form.

You can regain health by finding clovers most often. A roulette wheel clover restores 2 HP. Special, usually hidden, objects restore 3 HP. There are also rare golden clovers which heal you by 5.

Ganymede has no bosses to fight, but it has four levels which are a major objective in the game and are among the most challenging the game has to offer. Also, they are all hidden and off the beaten path. Among the rewards you get for completing these gauntlet challenges is that each one raises your maximum HP by one, for a total of 9.


Your current health will influence how effective your jump attack is. Assuming you can harm an enemy with a normal jump, there is a chance that you will harmlessly bounce off instead (as if you have spun jumped off a Spiny). For each HP you have below 5 (the starting maximum) there is a 20% chance the attack will fail, all the way up to 80% at 1 HP.


The very first ASM patch Ganymede received involved the timer. Back in the day, Ganymede was still a vanilla-flavored hack called Thoughtful Mario World and I ran into my first really frustrating problem: coins are pretty pointless in Super Mario World. Why would a player bother collecting them when all you get is a useless extra life? So I thought about what could make them valuable. I decided that it would be useful if you could use them to increase the timer. So that was my first chocolate sprinkle. It makes new gameplay options open up. Not only does it make coins a collectible with a purpose, it makes coins a deadly obstacle if the timer is set to zero. Touching a coin in that state gives you one second and turns the timer on. Some levels make you have to avoid gaining time. Others make you have to turn the timer on and then it is a frantic struggle to keep it from running out. A bonus level is a full recreation of the first world of Super Mario Bros. in which you have to beat all four levels in a single go and both conditions above apply in it. I think this is more fun than forced scrolling.


The timer is going to become a more complex gameplay element still. My idea is to make it so that the timer only runs when the man is performing physical actions (walking, running, jumping, attacking, swinging or flying) and stops when he is still, falling, or riding on his friend. This will make the timer function as a stamina meter. I think this will make possible a gameplay experience unlike any other hack.


As noted above, coins are a mechanic that serve little purpose to an experienced player of vanilla SMW. One of the early goals I had was to find ways to change that, so that I could have coins in my hack and actually give the player a reason to go after them. In addition to extending the timer, collecting 100 clocks (because they look like little clocks) triggers a roulette which gives you one of five rewards.

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SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
Wow. These levels are very neat! You seem to be very experienced with Super Mario World Hacking. I've always loved choconilla hacks, but this one is, just.. just wow. Looking forward to play this.
First of all, welcome to the central Ten

Second, these levels are looking great! I really wanna see more!
Thanks, both for the welcome and the kind words.

I'm thinking I might touch up some of the earlier levels and put up a patch, because I'd really love for people to play it and get some feedback. I'm dedicated to finishing one way or another.

Funny thing is, I'm not really very experienced with hacking, and what I did took me a couple of years to figure out. I haven't even attempted to alter the world map (other than change the level names) both because I care a lot more about level design, and because it seems a lot harder to do. The bulk of my experience comes from designing Mario levels on pen and paper starting when I was in elementary school.
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
Here are a few more levels.

The Sentinels

This level replaces Forest of Illusion 4. After I finish the Forest Fortress and Roy's Castle, I'll be ready to release the first part of the hack.

A few levels I retouched:

Tricky Treetops

This replaces Yoshi's Island 4. A somewhat more demanding level than the ones before it, but short so that it doesn't become frustrating.

Constantly Under Fire

This replaces Vanilla Secret 2. There's only one exit, but managing to stay up top can get you there much more easily.

I should have a patch ready within the next week or two.
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
Looking great so far! I notice that there's a missing tile on Constantly Under Fire (at the beginning), and on The Sentinels, I'm not a huge fan of the goal being against the wall like that. It looks awkward when Mario finishes the level, if you know what I mean.

Other than that, looks great. Looking forward to more! :)
Dude, these look wonderful! Very cool designs so far. I love your philosophies too, I think they'll help you create a very fun and replayable hack (replayability, to me, is very valuable). Also, Goodybasket Grove is pretty genius.
My thanks for the sentiments are late but no less appreciated for it. I promise! I'm really glad you guys like it so far.

So, I'm a bit behind my stated schedule. I have been hard at work on this, in between everything else (I'm getting married tomorrow). Being that I want to release this for public consumption, I wanted to go over my earlier levels and tune them up, fix little broken things and so on.

Here's a handful more. It won't be long now until it's playable. I promise! Again!

I want to thank K3fka for his/her help in writing a script for me that adds a second onto the timer for each coin collected.

Here are some more of the levels:

Risky Reservoir

Replaces Yoshi's Island 3. It's actually one of the larger levels in the game for how early it appears.

Secrets of the Tomb

Formerly known as Donut Plains 2. This is one of the few levels where I followed the law of starting off with Ctrl+Del. Yeah, most of these others are actually alterations.

The Fiery Belly

Formerly Vanilla Dome 3. See? It's just an alteration! It's also the longest level I have, and it's one of my personal favorites.

Mines of Malice

The level once known as Vanilla Secret 1. I think I mistakenly identified another level as that. Anyway, it's a haunted mine level. I virtually entirely redesigned it recently because I hated how it originally looked.

Caramel Puddlejumps

Used to be Vanilla Dome 2. Again, merely altered. Another level that I replay sometimes just because I like it.

Sugartop Spookhouse

Okay, just have all of Vanilla Dome, why don't you? This is the ghost house for that area, obviously. I committed the cardinal sin of using two mildly-glitched sprites on purpose.

That's all the screenshots for now. Next time, it's playable. I promise. Yet again!
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
Okay, seriously and for real: I am about to make it go live. All of the levels are done (at least, all of the levels that will appear in the first part). I just have a little bit of tweaking and testing to do. It should be just another day or two.

Since it is just one part of two (the second will have every level replaced), it will end after Roy's castle. Worlds 6 and 7, and the Special Star World levels will not yet be playable. However, there will be rewards awaiting those who make it all the way to these points in the game.

I'm really excited at the prospect of other people playing, and hopefully enjoying, this hack.
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
Wait, what about the overworld? Also, love your pallets.
Thanks. The palettes are all I've changed on the overworld, actually. I find the overworld editor a great deal less intuitive than the level editor, and I've never gotten comfortable with it. Every time I've tried to toy with the overworld, I've ended up wrecking it. I want to do another hack one day, and devote the time to learning how to edit the overworld and toy with ASM (another aspect of hacking that has confounded me), but for this one, I've just worried about making levels.
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
I now have a full release thread for this hack here. Please come and check it out!
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
Hi, I'm back, and I'm still working on this. Thanks to everyone who's given it a try. If you haven't, please do. Link's up top.

I have a few new levels completed, which will be playable in the final and full version of the game. Take a look, let me know what you think. Your feedback is my food and drink. Even if you tell me you hate it, you've given me a bit of your time and attention, and that's valuable in its own way.

Now, on to the levels. As I am not moving around the overworld in this hack, these levels replace the first four of World 6.

Surefoot Summit 2 3

The bridges honed your precision jumping skills, and the forest made you wary of secret passages. If you're good enough to get this far, you'll have the skills you need to go on. And you'll need them.

House of Many Teeth

Perhaps here, the more useful skill is knowing how to fall.

Valley of Spears 2

You probably don't want to do much falling here, though. It will do you little good.

Wraparound Ridge

If you don't know where you're going, you won't really ever get anywhere.
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
The Heinous Holdfast

It's a descriptive name. These levels are getting nearer to the end. The ones in the Valley are going to be a lot of fun to do, as well the Special World levels.
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
I am shouting into the darkness (of the latest level).

It's called Fairyfire Grotto, so as to justify a reason to have lava that was a strange, different color. Fairyfire Grotto is filled with treasure and a lot of tricky jumps and traps that will make you use all the jumping skills the previous few levels have taught you to learn. It's one of the longest levels I've made for the game, so far. I had to adjust quite a few things that initially made the difficulty unfair.

There are 20 more levels to go before the hack is complete. I'm excited!
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
I'd say getting rid of the layer 3 background stuff would be the best idea, since you already have a full layer 2 background. The palette of the layer 2 background I'm not too sure about though; it looks kind of...discolored? It feels like it wasn't made with a proper gradient or anything like that.

As for the design itself, it looks rather empty. There doesn't seem to be much enemy population, just a bunch of annoying jumps on very steep slopes. Even the places that aren't are still empty. You also miss a lot of opportunities to hide 1-up mushrooms, like that alcove at the beginning where you just shoved a bunch of coins. That would be a perfect place to hide a 1-up.
I actually forgot that I had Layer 3 on, and I hadn't noticed. That will be gone. Fair enough point on enemy population, and that I will also see to.

Regarding that alcove that has only coins...

SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
Umm, I don't get the point of these pipe-like blocks, I think cement blocks or proper ground corners will do the work better. The design, hmm... I think it's lacking enemies, but watch out with the steep slopes, because you have to jump to climb these. The palettes are okay, however I'm not a fan of the BG palette, the outlines should be darker, but that's just me.

A small, stupid question... what are those black, electro-like blocks? Do they hurt the player?
They do. They are basically my way of getting floating munchers without the silliness of literal floating munchers.

I've been working on this just about every day. I'm hell bent on having a finished product. Now that I'm down to the last several levels, I've been going back and seeing what more could be done with levels I've already finished.

One example is with Icewater Lake, which looks like this in the demo and will resemble this in the final release.
SMWC members who have helped make Ganymede the hack I want it to be
The vanilla palette looks a bit like abstract, but that's just me. That's because of the white outlines on the icy ground, maybe it was the point.

Nevermind. Looks interesting. The chocolate version looks fine as well except for the Koopa palettes I find a bit weird. They are too saturated and the green/yellow ones have a lack of shading. Other things look fine. The choco version looks more icy, I think.
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