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Some announcement a while back, its all good now
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I was almost sure we had a layer 3 gear background in one of the factory levels (Musical Mechanisms?).

Also, re: the credits music: if push comes to shove, we could just leave the credits silent or incorporate a "movie reel" sound effect type thing. Shrug.
if credit music isn't made by Christmas I will port yoshi clan and yes I'm serious

Originally posted by HuFlungDu
Are there no layer 3 backgrounds already in existence for the factory levels? I was hoping we'd be able to just insert one that already exists, but I have no idea how the layer 3 graphics work for this game (I tried inserting one myself, but couldn't figure it out...).


Yeah I had forgotten that one was made for it. I can get that inserted on my side once I insert all of the files. Also what type of sound effect are you looking for?
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Originally posted by Lightvayne
Originally posted by HuFlungDu
Are there no layer 3 backgrounds already in existence for the factory levels? I was hoping we'd be able to just insert one that already exists, but I have no idea how the layer 3 graphics work for this game (I tried inserting one myself, but couldn't figure it out...).


Yeah I had forgotten that one was made for it. I can get that inserted on my side once I insert all of the files. Also what type of sound effect are you looking for?

A siren. If you play the IPS I posted, when you transition from the first phase to the second, there's a red flashing light. I want something to go with that.
Originally posted by leod
There's no consequences for Torchkas if he doesn't finish the song, so he's not going to.

That's a very baseless argument.

Simply put, the SMWCP2 credits song was low on my priority list. I didn't think you were actually planning to release it before C3 (which is what it sounds like) so I've been focusing on a couple of other things.
I get the entire "joke" about me slacking all the time. I just really didn't have a clue about when the actual deadline for this thing was. I get that you want things finished, but putting the blame entirely on me is kind of senseless I feel.
And of course, I know I'm part of the problem. I am willing to finish it, and I should. It's just that I wish you'd have notified me about your urgency earlier. Just so I could at least have an idea of how to plan stuff accordingly.
Also, yes, the scope of the song will be rather big. It won't take up half a bank though. It will be larger than other songs and it would be hard to fairly estimate its size considering there's a large number of factors that play into that. I don't think it will be a major problem unless we don't even have ~0x3000 bytes to spend.

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The "joke" which isn't a joke as much as observation is based on the same past experiences as my argument.

And not knowing how relatively urgent this was is not really an argument, just thinking that maybe this project isn't supposed to take 2 more years to finish would've given you an idea about that.

Nobody was putting the blame only on you. We blamed whatever things stole HFD and Kipernal's freetime away and you.
As long as you finish before Kipernal shows up, or someone manages to do the do to the cutscenes, there isn't really any harm done anyway.

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As leod said I'm not blaming just you. I've been trying to be nice and give you guys time to get stuff done. We want quality work obviously and at the same time I understand you also have a life. However, I did state a few times at the LAST C3 that I did want to at least have this released by Decembers C3. It is now December and even if everything was handed to me now at this second, there is no possible way to get this done this year because we need to have the beta testing phase after all this.

You had well over 10 months now (probably longer, I lost count) to work on this track, and last I saw anything from you, you only had about 30 seconds done. There is a point when my generosity begins to feel like it being taken advantage of. :/
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Originally posted by Lightvayne
We want quality work

Originally posted by Lightvayne
I did want to at least have this released by Decembers C3.

I'm not sure if it's possible to have both of those. There are still a lot of songs in SMWCP2's soundtrack that, quite frankly, need to be redone (my own included). If we're going to release this at C3, it'll be pretty much impossible to finish those up. (Unless someone is willing to redo all of them and can port extremely fast).
If they really needed to be redone, we probably would have got on it during this whole stagnation.

There's also the fact that you could have posted that earlier than 3/4 years into development.
There's still lots of time, the beta testing phase is going to be quite long as well.
Obiously not years' worth of time, but it should be plenty to remake and touch up a few songs.

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Note that I set that goal way back in June. I know at this point I obviously can't get this finished any time this year. But yeah, if people were worried about the music, this could have been stated almost a year ago when all the songs where pretty much completed. I don't want to have to add anymore work into this than wants already needed, so unless a fix is absolutely needed or you already have something finished to fix said problems by the time this is released, I don't want anyone to bother with it.
I'm not holding up the hack again for another project.
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Originally posted by Jimmy52905
and can port extremely fast.


...or has no life at all and can sit at a computer for hours upon hours porting songs. #ab{:P}

Also, why do the songs need to be redone? Is it because of the AMM -> AMK thing or is there sme other reason I'm not aware of?

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So for once in two years, we're actually going to try and push for a deadline? You know, like those same deadlines that were being used before to push people into getting the bulk of the levels completed?

Why didn't we think of that sooner?! #smw{-_-2}

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Probably because people were going under the impression that the remaining stuff would get done in a timely manner.

Guess not!

Originally posted by GeminiRage
So for once in two years, we're actually going to try and push for a deadline? You know, like those same deadlines that were being used before to push people into getting the bulk of the levels completed?

Why didn't we think of that sooner?! #smw{-_-2}

Because all this will accomplish is making people mad when the deadline isn't met. Deadlines aren't magic, and the reason these things aren't done is because they take highly specialized skills.
So much specialized skill that it would actually require two years to get it done? Yeah, we know that's not true.

But as Torchkas himself stated, he didn't feel any pressure to actually continue his work on SMWCP2 and thus, he just sat on it. Real life can only have so much of an effect on how much spare time one has; when we're going on two years of stagnation, there's obviously an underlying issue of lacking motivation.

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I've been waiting for this hack for FAR too long, long enough to suspect and even suggest it be canceled for being a little too ambitious. Still, what I've seen and heard of the hack makes me want to play the finished product. You wouldn't want me to go Quintesson in the IRC and feed a couple good users to the Sharkticons.

I'm just joking about the Sharkticon thing of course, but I still want to see this done. I'd like to LP it sometime.

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Originally posted by GeminiRage
So much specialized skill that it would actually require two years to get it done? Yeah, we know that's not true.

I don't know anything about Torchkas situation, but my understanding is that Kipernal barely has internet (or has barely had internet for a long while) and I know that I have actually been too busy since I started this earlier this year, in addition to having to wait for other specialized people to do their stuff (that robot is rad, that's some serious graphical prowess to draw that), now I need some other things. I know Kipernal required other things as well. You get multiple things that only one person can do that all rely on eachother to make happen, and none of them are getting paid for it, you get huge delays. This is a hobby, not a job. I have not monopolized the final boss or anything, I didn't even want to tell anyone I was working on it, I just started it because the old version hadn't been worked on for a while, so I tried to solve the problem, because no one else was going to.

I guess what I'm saying is, you do it or stop talking.
Originally posted by KTBHacking
Also, why do the songs need to be redone? Is it because of the AMM -> AMK thing or is there sme other reason I'm not aware of?

It has more to do with the quality of the songs themselves than AMM issues.

Originally posted by Lightvayne
this could have been stated almost a year ago when all the songs where pretty much completed.

For the record, I discussed this a few months ago with SNN and a couple of others on #imamusic. They also seemed to agree that some of the music should be redone. I had planned to do a few of them, but I haven't gotten around to actually doing it because (1) I've been busy with other projects, (2) I wasn't aware that this was supposed to be released at the end of this year.

While I agree that the credits music and cutscenes are of higher priority right now, I also agree with leod that we should spend a few months polishing this before we actually release it.

I know we all want SMWCP2 to hurry up and get released so that we can finally be done with it, but we can't expect to rush things when there's still a lot to be done. Deadlines are good, but unrealistic ones are not.

If you guys really want to redo some songs while the beta testing is in progress (which alone may take a month or two), then by all means go ahead, but the music project needs to be finished by the end of it.

I'll dig up the old music thread list and start another thread.
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