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Morton's Empire OST [like, 5 available to do]
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While the project has no plans to have a completely original soundtrack, some compositions would be nice. I've already done the map themes and the title screen, but there are some other music tracks that Erik would like to have.

You can claim anything on this list - yes, including the ones that have already been finished. Most of them could use a revamping, so if you can compose, arrange or remix and want to contribute to the project, don't be shy! You can post here or PM me if you want a go at it.

You can find all the songs in the hack here [spc].




Map & Death Themes:
Fire - REVAMPED
Desert - REVAMPED
Jungle - REVAMPED
Ice - REDONE
Castle - Good
Void - REVAMPED

Misc.:
Title Screen - NEEDS REVAMP
Boss - NEEDS REVAMP
Boss Beaten - POSSIBLE REVAMP
Final Level - UNCLAIMED
Final Boss Phase 2 - Good
Void - UNCLAIMED (should we?)
Credits - UNCLAIMED
MercuryPenny I downloaded these tracks and I think they are great. Think about the other compositions with Erik and everything will be OK.

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wow this list really needed an update.
I'd like to compose something as well, but I cannot promise to be able to port it correctly >.<
You could have someone else port it for you if you feel your porting skills leave something to be desired.
since nobody can (or don't want to *runs*) contribute with music #wario{:'(}

NEW DESERT MAP SONG

if you have no idea what an spc is i can upload a wav
Compared to the rest of the submap themes, I think you've outdone yourself with the desert theme, MP, especially with that Melody. It just speaks "Morton's Empire" to me. I think my suggestion for the OW themes in general is using the same melody for all of them to give Morton's Empire more of a personality, kind of what SMW did with the level melodies.

In fact, I kinda did an alternate Fire Theme using the Desert Theme's Melody if people like it more. It does take up 9 channels, but I have an idea on how to squish it to 8 (it involves some sample combination) if people agree that I should port it.

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holy dancing nuts that's fantastic

If you can port it that would be good, but I want to hear Merc's opinions on the matter.
Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
I think my suggestion for the OW themes in general is using the same melody for all of them to give Morton's Empire more of a personality, kind of what SMW did with the level melodies.

While that's a nice idea in theory, I'm not sure if it would work out at this point to redo a lot of the songs that are already made. The fire map melody has been integrated into the ice map theme and the title screen theme.

Thanks for the flattering comments on the desert map theme though #ab{^^;;;}


It sounds good, but I dunno if it would work well for the fire map. The hack starts out difficult but this is still the first world we're talking about, and this feels very "final" if you get what I mean.

On an unrelated note I have plans to redo the ice map theme, claiming that now unless someone wants to grab it from me
Originally posted by MercuryPenny
While that's a nice idea in theory, I'm not sure if it would work out at this point to redo a lot of the songs that are already made. The fire map melody has been integrated into the ice map theme and the title screen theme.

There's only 3 songs that would be replaced. I had to redo way more than that in a few projects of mine. The melody in those tracks you mentioned are really more SFX heavy, trying to go off in a less catchier melody than what the Desert offered (if I'm frankly honest, I got lost trying to listen to that melody except for maybe the title screen). I think you're only saying that because you don't want your work to go to waste; which coming from a song creator's point of view, I can relate; I had entire tracks, and even entire levels removed suddenly removed later on because people who first thought it was great had a change of opinion later on once something better was introduced (*Coughcough*TheGreatPitfromA2MT*Coughcough*). This technique actually worked for New Super Mario Bros U and Donkey Kong Country Returns quite well.

tl:dr - I think it's worth the effort to rework the 3 OW tracks to be completely honest, as I really do feel that the Melody is far more catchier.

Originally posted by MercuryPenny
Thanks for the flattering comments on the desert map theme though #ab{^^;;;}

No problem. The melody was pretty en-genius.

Originally posted by MercuryPenny

It sounds good, but I dunno if it would work well for the fire map. The hack starts out difficult but this is still the first world we're talking about, and this feels very "final" if you get what I mean.

I suppose you have a point, although I do question what's wrong with starting off with a bang in the beginning. Then again, this isn't my project, so I shouldn't try to implement my "finalistic" style in writing music. I'll probably rework it so it's more darker and... less finale then what I had. Although... I'd argue that Mario's Keytastrough had a pretty final-feeling first world theme, and the same track stepped even further in each variation.

I think this might be more suitable, but I may even work on it more.

Originally posted by MercuryPenny
On an unrelated note I have plans to redo the ice map theme, claiming that now unless someone wants to grab it from me

I can take it as well with the melody idea in mind, if you really wanted me to. I have an idea on how to use the melody yet again with it.

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Can you put some of these on YouTube or something? They don't play for me on mobile #ab{:(}

I'd personally love to compose some songs for it, but I have my own hack to focus on unfortunately #ab{:S}

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I'm only done with the title screen one though: Link. I'll put the rest in the OP though.
I finished uploading the current songs to YouTube: Playlist

As for the fire map issue.
Originally posted by Daizo
I think this might be more suitable, but I may even work on it more.

It sounds good. It's in fact better than the other one, and I don't find what to change.

Originally posted by Daizo
Originally posted by MercuryPenny
On an unrelated note I have plans to redo the ice map theme, claiming that now unless someone wants to grab it from me

I can take it as well with the melody idea in mind, if you really wanted me to. I have an idea on how to use the melody yet again with it.

Well, I think that both can work on it and then we can decide. Have no idea why you (merc) want to modify it though, it sounds fine and if there's 1 theme we should change it's the fire one.
Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
I think you're only saying that because you don't want your work to go to waste

Yup, you pretty much nailed it.

I still like how it is and don't want to just throw it out when we could be making other tracks that haven't been made yet. It's not outright horrible like the first two desert tracks so I don't really see why it's so urgent that it be replaced.

Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
I think this might be more suitable, but I may even work on it more.

I honestly don't like the church organ for the melody, and the melody doesn't sound like it fits a fire map.

The song as a whole doesn't fit the fire map itself, either. I'd be cool with it being the intro cutscene if you extended it a bit; but it's your choice if you want to do that.

Originally posted by Erik557
Well, I think that both can work on it and then we can decide. Have no idea why you (merc) want to modify it though, it sounds fine and if there's 1 theme we should change it's the fire one.

Because it's just the fire map theme, only worse.

I'm wondering why you think the ice map is good but the fire map is horrible.
Originally posted by MercuryPenny
Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
I think you're only saying that because you don't want your work to go to waste

Yup, you pretty much nailed it.

I still like how it is and don't want to just throw it out when we could be making other tracks that haven't been made yet. It's not outright horrible like the first two desert tracks so I don't really see why it's so urgent that it be replaced.

I, and the leader of this project, agree to replace the fire theme to either something similar to mine, or a complete redo. Just because you like it, it doesn't mean it's any better. I got torn when people hated my Idol 6 entry, so I ended up reworking A LOT of it in order to make it not a pain in the mind to follow with it. It took an entire year to fix up, but once the public hears it, I think an improvement can be heard.

Originally posted by MercuryPenny
I honestly don't like the church organ for the melody, and the melody doesn't sound like it fits a fire map.

The song as a whole doesn't fit the fire map itself, either. I'd be cool with it being the intro cutscene if you extended it a bit; but it's your choice if you want to do that.

Organs are generally used for dark and grim pieces, which is why I used it in the first place. You probably have a point; perhaps maybe a rock organ might be more appropriate for a fire theme.

Also wait, are you saying the melody doesn't fit a fire theme? I have to disagree with you here, because a melody can work if it represents the hack itself, which the melody you created for the desert theme fits the entire hack as a whole. Though, really, I shouldn't be the one talking about what works in music or not. If you want pin-point accuracy to which theme is better, I think someone from the musical department (MaxodeX, coolmario, ggamer, or even Masterlink and Torchkas) can judge which theme's better, and which one has potential for improving.

Originally posted by MercuryPenny
Originally posted by Erik557
Well, I think that both can work on it and then we can decide. Have no idea why you (merc) want to modify it though, it sounds fine and if there's 1 theme we should change it's the fire one.

Because it's just the fire map theme, only worse.

I'm wondering why you think the ice map is good but the fire map is horrible.

I'm actually going to agree with Erik557 and say that the fire theme definitely needs to be changed or replaced. It's just a mesh of fire SFX with a melody that is hard to spot, and barely noticeable. The ice theme, while a little iffy, has the sort of "somber" feel to it, showing the reality of what such a cold place can do; I'd argue that the melody is actually more fitting with it. The Jungle and the Desert maps should be there to stay, even despite how much I want to replace the jungle with an idea I had in mind; but I won't, because that isn't my or anyone's focus right now (besides, it's good). I'll give your fire theme some credit, though, and say that the SFX used in the track would help my fire theme stand out more when I do port it.

If you want further feedback for a track that is good but needs tweaking, I feel the Title theme needs a reverse symbol rather than a bunch of crash symbols playing one after another with only one channel (alternatively, you can do the latter but with two channels), and the cellos' notes should just play in their own separate channels in the beginning rather than them just playing in two channels.


Anyway, I gave the fire theme another go with the feedback I took in from you. Let's have a little vote to see who's theme is more appropriate and "better" because let's face it, we'll never end this argument by ourselves. If you win the majority of people that likes your theme more, I'll either just rework the song for another use or just forget it completely; or if I win the majority and they like my fire rendition, I'll start porting it, and you can use your theme in your own hack... or something.

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Not really a fan, so I vote for MercuryPenny. I like the fire "noise" - it suits more, in my opinion.

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Originally posted by MercuryPenny
Originally posted by Erik557
Well, I think that both can work on it and then we can decide. Have no idea why you (merc) want to modify it though, it sounds fine and if there's 1 theme we should change it's the fire one.

Because it's just the fire map theme, only worse.

I'm wondering why you think the ice map is good but the fire map is horrible.

The fire map theme is not horrible. The ice map is just better.
You tried to remix and rearrange the fire theme to fix the Ice one and you did a better job, so much that I liked it more than the fire one. Of course it has its flaws but they're because you were still learning to compose properly.
Still, feel free to modify it.

Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
Originally posted by MercuryPenny
Originally posted by Daizo Dee Von
stuff

more stuff about effort wasted

I, and the leader of this project[...]

The fact is that Merc is the leader of the soundtrack team, and the third lead organizator, so his point is still strong.
However, Merc's point applies to you too, your effort will also go to waste if we don't use the theme. I can search for an use, maybe the opening cutscene or another cutscene. (I mean I really want to see it in the fire map)

Originally posted by Daizo
I think someone from the musical department (MaxodeX, coolmario, ggamer, or even Masterlink and Torchkas) can judge which theme's better, and which one has potential for improving.

More like anyone. No need to be an expert to judge musics.

Originally posted by Daizo
The Jungle and the Desert maps should be there to stay, even despite how much I want to replace the jungle with an idea I had in mind; but I won't, because that isn't my or anyone's focus right now (besides, it's good).

I honestly thought that the jungle theme needed some revamp. Not that it's bad but there's room for improvement.

Originally posted by Daizo
Anyway, I gave the fire theme another go with the feedback I took in from you.

what did you do to the organ
The organ was fine as it was.

Originally posted by AlwaysANoob
noise

I mean if the noise is an issue then we can implement it when Daizo ports it. If he wants to, obviously

edit:
POLL FOR THE FIRE THEME
Not bothering with every single quote, so I'll just reply to the ones I feel are most important.

Originally posted by Erik557
However, Merc's point applies to you too, your effort will also go to waste if we don't use the theme. I can search for an use, maybe the opening cutscene or another cutscene. (I mean I really want to see it in the fire map)

I'm willing to be defeated if people like MP's better. I can't say the same with vice versa.

Originally posted by Erik557
Originally posted by Daizo
Anyway, I gave the fire theme another go with the feedback I took in from you.

what did you do to the organ
The organ was fine as it was.

I changed it because MP didn't like the church organ. All the instruments can and will be changed when I port it anyway.
Here's all my variations if people want to hear my previous attempts:
[1]
[2]
[3]

Originally posted by Erik557
Originally posted by AlwaysANoob
noise

I mean if the noise is an issue then we can implement it when Daizo ports it. If he wants

I wanted the noise in mine when it's ported anyway, so that's fine.

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Originally posted by Someone
Originally posted by Erik557
Originally posted by AlwaysANoob
noise

I mean if the noise is an issue then we can implement it when Daizo ports it. If he wants

I wanted the noise in mine when it's ported anyway, so that's fine.


Since when did I say it was an issue?

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