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Nintendo Switch (aka NX)

Nintendo really hasn't made much support for games that utilize extra hardware for VC, even though I'm sure their current hardware could make them work. The Wiimote would have been perfect for a Duck Hunt port, but it was not made until Wii U in late 2014. There was no rumble support for Starfox 64 on Wii VC. It was added on the Wii U, apparently.

Their GBA VC also has no support for extra peripherals such as gyroscope, even though the gamepad would be perfect for it.

So it could just be that Nintendo's emulators don't meet their standards, or something.

Originally posted by Error 52
I want to say it has something to do with rights issues? It being developed by a dead British studio and all.


Could be, I guess. Was the GBA gyroscope made by nintendo?

My hopes for virtual console on NX is that:
- Doesn't make you pay a fee to transfer.
- Is cross-compatible with future systems (most likely won't with 3DS).
- Does not have a stupid slow release schedule.
- Does not overprice some titles because they were rare or unlocalized (earthbound and lost levels for example, watch mother 3 being $15 or more once its released on wii u)
- Has GC titles. This includes the NX supporting gamecube controllers, now that there is an official usb adapter for them.
Bumping this thread with a double post but I thought this was interesting to point out:

The NX is getting it's own event "during the fall", according to a Nintendo of Canada's CEO. Source

I assume would be around late September, because it would be the start of the second half of the fiscal year.

Some things to consider about the NX, post-e3 edition:

- Zelda: BoTW might be a launch title. (They never said a launch date for the game, I guess it's to avoid "leaking" the NX launch date themselves)
- Miyamoto said a new type Mario game is in the works, and we might see it next year at E3. Probably for NX.
- Since we did not see Pikmin 4 at e3, could this mean it will certainly be for NX? Nintendo did not want to show the NX at e3, after all.
- Dragon Quest X and XI are being considered for NX, maybe we could see some third party titles from Square.
- Just Dance 2017 is coming to NX, as announced at E3, so we can expect Ubisoft to be on-board with your usual system launch support.
- NX is "not about the specs", according to Reggie. Rumors about it being about as powerful as the xbone might be true, then.
- Reggie also says "VR has to be mainstream for them to get involved". I guess we won't see the NX supporting VR.

No word on other third party developers as of yet. We'll see what goes on when the NX event happens.
Should probably post my thoughts

You'll probably disagree with me. But I think they should have made Zelda exclusive to the NX. The naive people who take Nintendo's word when they say "the WiiU will not cease production" will only end up buying the game for their WiiU, rather buying a new console for it. The main reason you own a console is to play games on it - that's a factor to why the WiiU failed. Its launch titles were utter shite, nothing worth getting a new console for. Why buy a WiiU to play NSMBU when you can play a nearly identical game on Wii.

Granted, I have heard rumours of Smash Bros and some other games being launch titles, which is good. Those are the kind of games people will buy your consoles for, not NSMB.

Also, scrap the stupid gimmicks, unless you can think up something that's actually meaningful. The Wii worked because it was innovative, and caused Microsoft and Sony to adapt the idea to their own platforms.

If it's on par with the Xbox One and PS4, at least 3rd parties can be a bit more comfortable with it. Specs of the console are a bit more important than people would like to say they are.

Nothing else to add right now really. I hope the NX succeeds, I really do. If the NX fails, Nintendo is in a pretty bad situation.
As a game developer myself, I can say that for ports, it's usually more important how similar the architectures of consoles are than how much power they have. If architectures are too different, you would have to write a slot of specialized code, making ports difficult. If, however, only the raw power is different, it often just becomes a matter of scaling, which is way easier. Not only that. You can optimize your game for the weakest system and automatically see benefits on the stronger systems as well. All That aside, if a console sells well enough, people will develop for it, EVEN if the architecture is too different. I mean that's the main reason the Wii got so many games, not because its power was on par with PS3 and XBOX 360. So even if NX ends up being very different from PS4 and XBOX ONE (which I really expect), they can still get strong 3rd party support if they just sell the consle enough.

Originally posted by Eevee
Its launch titles were utter shite, nothing worth getting a new console for.


Nintendo Land was actually great and is still one of the best Wii U games in my opinion, but it's very underrated.
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I'm pretty sure that the major part of this story is legit. Although it is a bit disappointing that NX might turn out just as powerful or even weaker than XBOX ONE and PS4 (especially with both of them making the jump to 4k soon), but this is hopefully balanced by developers being interested in it and developing many games for it. Also this probably means that it's going to have a good price, and since handheld and console aren't separate anymore, you only need to buy a single system and save even more money. I also love playing in my bed, so this is quite cool in general. I just so happen to play more handheld games than console games, which makes this a cool thing for me (and even if I wanted to play on my TV, I could with this).

Also wonder if the whole asynchronous gameplay thing is still going to be possible with NX or if potential Wii U ports will have to be redesigned in some way. I'm quite excited for this, anyways.
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If the NX uses the Tegra X1 chip, it'll be more powerful than the Wii U but less powerful compared to the Xbox 1. If it's the X2 on the other hand and the X1 is a placeholder (X2 out this August I believe?), your guess is as good as mine for how powerful it'll be compared to the PS4 and Xbox 1.

Edit: I feel I need to include this as well to lessen the headaches. Credit to the original poster on NeoGAF.

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I like the idea of ditching handheld and consoles and fusing them into a single platform. Something about handheld games with console production values sounds great.

If there is something the 3DS and Wii U showed us is that having to support two entirely different consoles can take a toll on Nintendo, their games and the systems themselves.

Like Smash 4, for example, dropped the Ice Climbers and transforming characters because the 3DS could not handle them.

Mario Kart 7 had to drop from 12 players that the last game had to 8 because the 3DS could again, not handle them.

Super Mario 3D Land played like a lame and dull Mario Galaxy while 3D World turned out to be my favorite 3D Mario game because of its production values (dem visuals, dat music, overall one of the best couch co-op multiplayer games out there).

Wii U can have GBA and DS virtual console titles but the 3DS, the actual handheld, can't because of hardware restrictions. Not to mention you can't play the same VC titles available on both systems without separately buying both versions.

Focusing on a single system also means they can pump out more games so we might see a revival of franchises that are long over due. My concerns are battery, storage and price.

Handheld and mobile devices typically feature flash storage, not hard drives. I wonder how are they gonna deal with digital downlods, updates and dlc when games nowadays can reach up to 30+GB each. 500GB of flash storage will not come cheap compared to the hard drives ps4 and xbone have. I guess each game's updates can be held within the cartridges but that raises another question: Can I play DLC I bought on my NX in another friend's NX if I take my cartridge?

If this handheld really is "as powerful as the Xbox One" how long will its battery even last? Considering the original 3DS and Wii U gamepad have a pretty bad battery life (2-3 hours), I hope this isn't an issue with the NX.

Sucks about backwards compatibility, but I guess it had to be done. I do wonder if past controllers (wiimore and accesories, wiiu pro and gamepad, gamecube controllers with usb adapter) will work, though.

Again, nothing is concrete. While this rumor does seem legitimate, nothing is set it stone until Nintendo reveals it. I guess we're gonna have to wait until september.
We need to see some older franchises return, yes. May I suggest Frog and Castle? How about Wario Land?

I'd say still keep Zelda and Sheik separate. It's a spoiler, after all.

It's physically impossible to make batteries store more than they currently do, and the next step won't happen until the 2150s, and that's being extremely generous. I'd give it a battery life of maybe 5 minutes.
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Originally posted by Wiimeiser
Frog and Castle

what

do you mean For the Frog the Bell Tolls?
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Originally posted by Leomon
Originally posted by Wiimeiser
Frog and Castle

what

do you mean For the Frog the Bell Tolls?

Yes, and Murasame Castle.
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Oh boy, can't wait for the rehashed titles for the NX that's gonna be an even newer Super Mario Bros and Mario Party 11 that no one will love!
The NX will play Nintendo's mobile games. Says Wall Street Journal.

This not only means you can play Miitomo and the future Fire Emblem and Animal Crossing mobile games, but it opens up the possibility for mobile games to be ported to the NX.

If this includes Pokemon Go, then the NX will essentially be a smartphone, but I kinda doubt that.

Wall Street Journal, IGN, MVC and
Kotaku
also back the eurogamer leaks. So there is little reason to doubt its credibility.

Additionally, MCV says the NX will be "cheaper than expected".
Source.

I personally was expecting a price above the US$350 msrp. Hopefully I'm wrong and its below that.
way below that
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"cheaper than expected"


Holy shit, if this is true, I might consider getting NX.
After hearing this, I'm hoping for a price of either $250 or $200 at most...preferably $200.
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This makes a lot of sense. As I noted before, Nintendo's been flirting with merging markets before. The Super Game Boy, Pokémon Stadium and the GBA-GameCube link cable all show that they've been lusting after the idea for a while. The 3DS/Wii U don't cross over at all, really, and having it be the same system would certainly solve that problem.

Plus, it's a good way to make both their handhelds and consoles relevant again. The handheld market is being chewed up by phones, so letting handhelds play the games you play on the TV without any remote play nonsense makes them hugely appealing as a result. Plus, Nintendo's home console division has always been struggling since the SNES. (The Wii had amazing sales, but a terrible attach rate. It's the exception that proves the rule.) Developers being able to develop for a home console and a handheld simultaneously likely makes it more appealing to third-party devs to. They appeal to two different markets in one go.

People need to drop their dreams of Nintendo ever competing with home consoles. That's never gonna happen. People aren't going to buy a new console drop the ecosystems of the PS4 and Xbox One that they've already been baked into just to play Mario. But if it was a handheld at the same time, that might well be more appealing.
I wouldn't say this is on the same level as EuroGamer reporting NX news and other companies/sites backing it up but it's potentially real information nevertheless.

Nvidia will be providing Pascal Tegra chips for the NX instead of X1. This would make sense considering, from what we hear, the X1 chips are being overclocked, cooled and the fans are making decent audible noise as a result and Nintendo (hopefully) wouldn't want that.




Twitter

After digging, I couldn't find any reason to doubt Nate or his sources either so this looks good so far.
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Emily Rogers is about as reliable a source of information as an AMA hosted by Kim Jong-un, frankly. Sure, she got Paper Mario right, but Mother 3 is looking doubtful, her Zelda predictions were flat-out wrong, she said Devil's Third was going to be published by xseed, she said that Pikmin 3 would be at E3 2011 (It wasn't) and, well, you get the idea.

Unfortunately, her Twitter account is private, which means that all the Google-fu in the world can't call her out on her bullshit.
Originally posted by Error 52
Emily Rogers is about as reliable a source of information as an AMA hosted by Kim Jong-un, frankly. Sure, she got Paper Mario right, but Mother 3 is looking doubtful, her Zelda predictions were flat-out wrong, she said Devil's Third was going to be published by xseed, she said that Pikmin 3 would be at E3 2011 (It wasn't) and, well, you get the idea.

Unfortunately, her Twitter account is private, which means that all the Google-fu in the world can't call her out on her bullshit.


Nate confirmed not too long ago (a little after I posted...) that this does not actually come from Emily and it's a different source. Nothing he's telling is from her.
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Originally posted by Error 52
her Zelda predictions were flat-out wrong


No? She actually got two of three right. She was right on the game having mini dungeons, she was right on the game having voice acting and the third rumor - the game having a female playable character - was actually something Nintendo considered during development.

In any case, I don't get what all this hate about people posting rumors is about. Rumors are just that: rumors. In other words: unconfirmed information. Of course some of it is going to turn out true and some isn't. Just because a rumor turns out wrong in the end doesn't mean that person has made everything up.

Plus, I work in game development and therefore know one or two things other people don't know, and from my experience, Emily Rogers is actually one of the MORE reliable sources for posting rumors. Though of course I couldn't talk about which of her information is correct and which (probably) isn't, due to NDA.

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