[DISCUSS] Super Mario World Central 8th Annual Idol >>> Discussion - Old Contests & Events

Yup, basically what everyone is saying. lol

Sorry for not noticing this earlier, btw. XD

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what kind of comparison is that

Also holy hell that's a lot of sign ups.

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Originally posted by Vitor Vilela

these are like a timeline graphical editor for music and common between 99% of the music composers.

What? I think you're confusing things here, Vitor. You're thinking of piano rolls, because trackers are very outdated and not nearly as user-friendly, which is why the most famous DAWs (Cubase, Logic Pro, FL Studio, etc) out there all use piano rolls instead, so this means that most of the professional composers nowadays also use it if they aren't recording themselves playing their own instruments.

That said, I don't think SNESGGS or whatever it's called can be considered as auto-porting, since you still have to do a bunch of stuff on your own. I mean, sure, the program is terrible and extremely limited, but it's not as effortless as, say, NintSPC.

Well, nevermind then. My bad.

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I never explicitly said it was disallowed, but usage of tools like your SPCtoMMLv1000, by human participants, is; where in my post did I say it was disallowed, because I'd love to edit it. I was stating petite/tiny tools as examples of what you're allowed to use.

I may be hosting the idol, I have quite a good understanding of the basics of Addmusic and porting; but all this stuff like trackers and what not, I don't have a clue. I'm just hosting the event so music staffers and what not can have a chance to participate.

I'd really appreciate it if a music staff could help me out a little bit here. The rules are mostly, if not the same as they were last year.

EDIT : I don't know what a tracker essentially is, but I'm getting the idea that:

Tracker is to Music as YY-CHR is to Graphics

In any case, as long as it doesn't do all the work for you, such as effects, looping, etc; I say it's free game. Also another thing I want to mention:

In my efforts to keep both the participants and userbase informed, I am making an exception to rule 7 for participant VilelaBot, as he is a robot and must the tools in order to produce product. He is the only exception I'll allow in the contest to use the tools.

Do note that accolades earned by robots stick to the robots, not to the person that owns them.

whether a tracker should be "allowed" depends entirely on how you intend to use it.

simply using a tracker to lay out a piece and then transcribe it to MML is totally acceptable, just as writing a MIDI and transcribing it is acceptable, AS LONG AS it's an actual MML file for SMW and not just an SPC exported by XMSNES or SNESMOD, or the like.

if you're going to use a tracker with something like OpenSPC which converts SPC files to tracker modules, similarly to SPC2MIDI, that is inherently disallowed.

basically as long as your tracker isn't turning unsequenced music into MML, and your song is made for SMW, there's not any issue.

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Originally posted by Skewer

EDIT : I don't know what a tracker essentially is, but I'm getting the idea that:

Tracker is to Music as YY-CHR is to Graphics

In any case, as long as it doesn't do all the work for you, such as effects, looping, etc; I say it's free game.

A tracker is just a type of sequencer basically. A tracker file (e.g. a .mod or .it file) is kinda like a spreadsheet of music events basically, you have several columns for each track that contain note events, volumes, panning, delays, etc. and each row represents a certain amount of time. Also unlike midi a tracker file contains samples.

So yeah what sinc-x said makes sense. As long as you aren't automating the porting process then it shouldn't matter what you use to compose/arrange shit. I'm going to be using renoise myself which is a full DAW with a tracker interface.

Originally posted by Skewer

your MML must be produced on your own

shit.

i'm out

ask me if i give a f*ck...

Originally posted by Skewer

• 7. As with last year, no automatic porting programs. This means no NintSPC, CapSPC, SPCtoMML V1000, etc. Note that MIDI conversion programs are exempt from this rule (this means you're allowed to use TinyMM/PetiteMM/etc).

Don't take what I say too cryptic now, you'll make me feel bad. You're allowed to use trackers, Petite, all this other stuff I haven't a clue of. This is essentially what I mean by "producing the MML on your own.

Sign Ups are now officially closed. I'm thankful to all the people that have entered to contest. Let's all look forward to an exciting contest this year. What kind of new stuff will we see? Oh the excitement!

The challenges will begin simple, but as more and more people are eliminated, they will become ever more progressively difficult.

To all the participants. You shall now become aware that whatever you port/compose for the contest, you are not allowed to submit the content to SMWC until after the voting period has ended. Furthermore, showing off what you've made for the contest before the voting period ends will result in immediate disqualification. Not that any of you lovely people would do that in the first place.

With that, kick back, get your plans in order, because when the contest begins... it begins.

That's alot of sign ups. Is this the most this contest has ever had?

Also, you seem to have missed Un8Y in your list.

Originally posted by Wavee

That's alot of sign ups. Is this the most this contest has ever had?

Also, you seem to have missed Un8Y in your list.

Please add me.

Originally posted by Skewer

Furthermore, showing off what you've made for the contest before the voting period ends will result in immediate disqualification. Not that any of you lovely people would do that in the first place.

In the previous idols, contestants were allowed to show and give feedback to each others' ports. Is that still allowed?

Originally posted by rules

• 8. You can not collaborate with another user, as you can not port/compose actively with another user. You are allowed to use/receive resources from other users and friends, but your MML must be produced on your own.

So does this mean we can ask for resources? Won't this make it immediately obvious who they are?

Originally posted by Un8Y

Please add me.

No.

@Torchkas: Feel free to, don't show it off on the Central though. As far as resources go, I'm not going to go into too much detail regarding that. I know some people had problems with not allowing it, so I'm just going to tip my hat and let that be that. It may make it obvious.

As much as I'd love to be able to allow contestants to make a new account with "Idol2016>insertnumberhere<", I don't know how the admins would feel about that. I'm whole in support of that idea though (since I conjured it), just don't use the account for anything more than that please; as it's the only work-around I can really think of.

Originally posted by Skewer

No.

what

~~also it's tuesday where's the idol~~ im dum ignore this

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I mean, you should be allowed to use existing brr samples and the like from the section. you shouldn't be able to request resources from other people (at least not if those people are voting) because yeah that does break the anonymity. even with anonymous usernames i feel like people might be biased toward entries that they had an active hand in. IMO any resources you use that you didn't make yourself should be publicly available. that way it doesnt break the anonymity.

Originally posted by Skewer

it's the only work-around I can really think of

Assuming we need reregs at all, I can think of another one.

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Originally posted by skewer

No.

Please give me the reason.

~~I'm taking a look at the sign-ups thread.~~ Your name has been added to the list; I need to be aware of name changes to avoid complications like this in the future. Previous name was Ugaps and now you're Un8y; I couldn't have possibly been aware of a name change. Not only is it embarrassing, it makes me look bad as a whole trying to enforce policy; when it was simply a mis-communication.

As far as resources go, I would like to hear other opinions on this matter before I make an official decision.

They're different people. Either way, I don't think it's fair to you disqualify someone just because he signed up after the supposed deadline. What are you even gaining at this point from removing him?

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