So how do you feel about destiny?
sometimes I beleive we have multiple destinies based on huge life choices sometimes I beleive we choose our destiny before we're born but usually I dont believe in it at all
I feel it almost always.
Good question man, for real.
Many of us have different views on it, and the wonderful thing about it, is that we are all correct, as long as we stay true to our beliefs.
My belief on destiny is that you create your own destiny. To think that some ethereal force controls your fate is total bull. You're the director of your own life movie, and you cast the people in it, what settings you want, the special effects, storyline, etc...
If something were to happen that is out of your control, that's what many would like to call "Shit happens". It's not an omen. Shit happens.
It's not bad luck. Shit happens
That's pretty much it.
well maybe i should fellow what this says even though im almost like it: My Horoscope:LEO - The Boss (July 23 - Aug 22)
Very organized. Need order in their lives - like being in control.. Like boundaries. Tend to take over everything. Bossy. Like to help Others. Social and outgoing. Extroverted. Generous, warm-hearted. Sensitive. Creative energy. Full of themselves. Loving. Doing the right thing is important to Leos. Attractive. 13 years of bad luck if you do not forward...
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I've always had a very weird and complex view on this...
I think One's destiny is written, but you don't know what it is.
God(If he exists) already knows your whole life. But you don't, so you can't just say say you don't give a damn about it, and give it up. God already knew you'd ask yourself this question now. if you pick to form your own destiny, he already knew you'd pick that option, and if you chose to not give a damn about your life, he'd knew you'd pick that option. In other words, I think life, and destiny, is already written, but at the same time, you're the one who "writes" it...
Seriously. I just got confused myself >_<
But that's my view of destiny...
I also kind of find it weird that I posted about god in this post, as I don't really believe in him... yet, I felt like writing it that way, most likely to make it easier to understand.
meh, I'm a weird guy when it comes to religions and such myths. I always seem to have a complicated view.
Right now I do believe in destiny well because I feel like something different will happen to me and I want it to but then again I think its ridiculous to believe that it will happen. so I just draw pictures and write stories that tell of my farfetch'd view of my destiny. I've never talked to a psychic or read my horoscope I dont really believe in them but I wander if they would tell me what I feel.
Truthfully Im conflicted with reality and fantasy because of the controversial destiny so I wanted to see other's opinions on it
There is no such thing as destiny. Every single choice that can be made is split into an infinite amount of possible outcomes, so there is no designated chain of events, it's all based on choices in actions.
Allow me to quote a line from Shakespeare's Julius Caesar.
Originally posted by Shakespeare
Men at sometime were masters of their fates. The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves, that we are underlings.
My belief is that we do have control of our own actions. Instructions on how we should live our lives and what we should do are not subconsciously planted in our heads. I believe the presence in this world is a learning experience for us, and how could it be if all our decisions were made for us?
Originally posted by KPhoenix
There is no such thing as destiny. Every single choice that can be made is split into an infinite amount of possible outcomes, so there is no designated chain of events, it's all based on choices in actions.
I believe there's no such thing as choice. What makes you decide to buy a chocolate cake? You like them. Why do you like them? That's what your life and experiences made you into. What I'm saying is that the past designates what's going to happen in the future. You wouldn't buy a cheesecake - that would be a slightly different you that doesn't exist. Also, why would humans have the power to split universes depending on what cake they buy, how many steps they take to the shop etc.?
Originally posted by Waweegee
I believe there's no such thing as choice. What makes you decide to buy a chocolate cake? You like them. Why do you like them? That's what your life and experiences made you into. What I'm saying is that the past designates what's going to happen in the future. You wouldn't buy a cheesecake - that would be a slightly different you that doesn't exist. Also, why would humans have the power to split universes depending on what cake they buy, how many steps they take to the shop etc.?
So you're saying that the concept of Free Will is total bullshit and we have no control over whatsoever.
Now I think destiny is not determined before you were born or even you specificly perhaps fates are tied to how you were rasied and your personality you do choose your fate but your personality and whatever builds it is the thing that predetermines your fate
and there is truely choice and free will choosing what game system you buy or what food you eat helps develope your personality which affects your destiny. Its meant to be a confusing concept like all lifes quesetions
Destiny. I personally believe that like any religion, destiny is a creation of man. BUT, that doesn't make it any less real or fake. who would i be to say that destiny does/doesn't exist? it's all about us, as people and one simple ability. BELIEF. anything divine that anyone believes in, if they truly believe in it of course, is real. it's as real as the great green we walk on, only if you believe it is. if you believe that there is a god and you truly believe it, then there is. if you truly believe that the universe was created by a mass explosion of condensed matter, then it was. as far as i'm concerned, anything that you believe is true, is in fact true. ( this applies to EVERYTHING, if someone believes that chocolate cake is elephant turds, then to them it's real, and of course to us who believe otherwise, it isn't.) So destiny. if you believe in it, it's real.
Originally posted by KPhoenix
So you're saying that the concept of Free Will is total bullshit and we have no control over whatsoever.
Yes. But, I believe that no higher power controls it, and there's no way of knowing what the future holds. Free will is like an illusion, since we think we have choices, but they only happen once and remember, the person who would buy a cheesecake would be a different person.
Depressing, isn't it?
I agree with KPhoenix (for once); nothing controls our actions, and if there was a higher being that did control our actions, why would it allow us to do evil actions? <-- this is the dope on dope
Originally posted by Sind
I've always had a very weird and complex view on this...
I think One's destiny is written, but you don't know what it is.
God(If he exists) already knows your whole life. But you don't, so you can't just say say you don't give a damn about it, and give it up. God already knew you'd ask yourself this question now. if you pick to form your own destiny, he already knew you'd pick that option, and if you chose to not give a damn about your life, he'd knew you'd pick that option. In other words, I think life, and destiny, is already written, but at the same time, you're the one who "writes" it...
Actually he doesn't. Why else would we have free-will? If he knew what would happen then we wouldn't have free will. In addition, if such were the case he might as well just code us to love him. I get into deep theological discusions with my parents and it is a very iffy thing because in the Gospels Jesus talks about Peter betraying him thrice before the cock crows. However, what would be the point of the bible if we were all damned except for a very few who had to go to heaven? I find it stupid that people think they are in control of thier own lives (because we only have a sliver of control), but I don't in destiny.
Remember people, it's been scientifically proven that our brains make decisions on average seven seconds before we act upon them.
"It not how you're destiny will end that's important, but it's how you get to it."
I agree with Sind, our destiny has been written already, but just because it has been written doesn't mean we don't have free choice.
... Too lazy to continue
Originally posted by Justin Case
If he knew what would happen then we wouldn't have free will.
He knows what we will choose.
I'm not arguing from any particular standpoint here. Just trying to clear up a word definition or two.
That is incorrect. If he knows what we will choose then we have to choose it. Therefore, we are no longer choosing. It's hard to explain, but you're wrong.
Justin, nobody is wrong.
You can't be wrong in religious debates T_T
And that's not what he meant. It's hard to explain.