Language…
13 users online:  AmperSam,  Anorakun, DinoMom, Golden Yoshi, Green, Hiro-sofT, Kerd, LightAligns, Pizzagamer9791, Silver_Revolver, Skewer,  Telinc1, yoshisisland - Guests: 299 - Bots: 552
Users: 64,795 (2,368 active)
Latest user: mathew

Why creating your next generic SMW hack is the worst thing you can do

Link Thread Closed
Originally posted by Drex
I am an ASM programmer. SMW is not an ASM friendly game. The structure is very convoluted.

Yeah so...?
Hi, I'm a signature!
Hack Thread
Hack Testing Status: Available.
Layout by Koopster.
Originally posted by me and everyone else
telling us in the longrun to make a new game altogether instead of just modifying is absurd

Originally posted by you
smw is not asm friendly because the structure (???) is very convoluted



This is the sort of idiocy and point-missing that has driven me close to leaving SMWC multiple times over the past few years

Sadly, since this is the only english-speaking SMW hacking website, I've had to narrow it down to merely avoiding the entire western hacking community outside of newbies who don't know better, close friends and regulars who aren't complete idiots

If anyone's curious as to why I sound like I constantly have a 5 foot stick up my ass, to the point where I had to be banned from GD, this (and the disrespect ASMers get) is why

I am leaving this thread now.
For your sake, and for the sake of this thread not getting trashed, I would suggest you'd stop derailing as well.
HackPortsASM"Uploader"

Originally posted by Konata Izumi
Originally posted by Drex
I am an ASM programmer. SMW is not an ASM friendly game. The structure is very convoluted.

Yeah so...?


I actually want to make a SMW hack, but it's definitely going to take me a long time.

Originally posted by merry chrismsms

especially if you're just going to gush over stuff like sprite joints and rotation and other things that 𝓵𝓲𝓽𝓮𝓻𝓪𝓵𝓵𝔂 𝓷𝓸 𝓸𝓷𝓮 𝓬𝓪𝓻𝓮𝓼 𝓪𝓫𝓸𝓾𝓽 instead of talk about designing fun/memorable levels


What do people here have against "rotating multijointed sprites". You know what, even SMW has a few examples of multijointed sprites. Remember those chained platforms that go in a circle when you step on them? Those are multijointed sprites, and they are an important part of the level design.

@lion

I thought you said you liked my homebrew game in other threads?
Originally posted by Drex
What do people here have against "rotating multijointed sprites"

It's not that we have something against them, I never even said that; it just so happens that we don't care about how they're made and/or how they would be so much better were they to be part of a homebrew instead of an SMW hack (which is what you seemed to want to turn the subject of this thread into), what we care about is how they're used.

Oh, and before you say something like "well but SMW's shoddy coding limits what you can do with the sprites so obviously you should ditch it and instead work on an entire new game altogether!! also rotation", you have to understand that both good and bad level design can flourish regardless of the limitations the designer has to put up with.

I'm sorry for derailing the thread. I was just explaining why there is a huge learning curve between a vanilla hack and a "chocolate" ASM hack.
Peeps really need to step back and realize that this is all just hobby projects. No one needs to meet anyone else's expectations.

Do you go into a hobbyist painter's house and criticize all their paintings on the wall for not being popular or displayed in art shows? Go on and on about how landscapes and fruit bowls are boring? Complain about their color choices? Point out how you think they could make their stuff more popular and appealing to your personal taste? Of course not! Why whine about how people make their hobby SMW hacks?
Actually I'm just gonna lock this. The discussion has run its course and been bumped multiple times, and is getting derailed constantly.

I think this is a topic worth discussing, but not here. If anybody would like to continue talking about this, give it a little bit of time, then make a new thread. And if you do, please try to avoid the negative stigma this thread started out with.
Link Thread Closed