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24HoSMW #11 - Discussion

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if one change the palete of the sprite, stills count as moding the spirte

and one can use the vainilla sprites or only the sprites pack
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right so can anyone make a level in like 1 hour right now
Originally posted by Quantix
right so can anyone make a level in like 1 hour right now


you only have 24 minutes. get goin!!!!
What the hell? You're seriously giving Tob a judging role in this? He's potentially the rudest person on the site at the moment, yet still gets overrated by many a member... Luckily I won't be participating anyway.
if you feel tob is inadequate to judge based on some objective past merits, you can format your thoughts better in a way that shows concern for this contest. just saying "tob is a big meanie :(" and throwing a pissy fit about it in public rather than contacting someone like the pr team leader or erik even about this makes you seem petty as hell. you really need to grow up someday, latios.
Originally posted by Latios
What the hell? You're seriously giving Tob a judging role in this? He's potentially the rudest person on the site at the moment, yet still gets overrated by many a member... Luckily I won't be participating anyway.

you have now entered and have -10 points
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when spritesets???

Meanwhile, questions

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Inserting a patch or UberASM or etc. that toys with the specific sprites provided.


Does that means that uberASM and patches that do NOT affect sprites can be inserted, or they're banned entirely? They're not mentioned in what you can do, so...?

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and your task will be to design a level using these sprites.


Do you have to use all sprites at least once or not all of sprites in one spriteset can be used? for example using ONLY Jumpy and Wall-Following Grinders from one spriteset, or all sprites from that spriteset have to be used?


> Starts the contest
> It's not fully done being organized yet (or something)

Originally posted by #general
[12:21 PM] SupInvisible: 20 MINUTES AND NO SPRITES YET?? :rage:
[12:22 PM] Mirann: dude download them from the section in the meantime

#erik'sfault :D

Either way, glhf @everyone
Spritesets are uploaded. Self note to never do last minute tweaks to them!
Originally posted by idol
if you feel tob is inadequate to judge based on some objective past merits, you can format your thoughts better in a way that shows concern for this contest. just saying "tob is a big meanie :(" and throwing a pissy fit about it in public rather than contacting someone like the pr team leader or erik even about this makes you seem petty as hell. you really need to grow up someday, latios.


Nothing will happen if an issue like this gets PMd. Nothing will happen if like 90% of the members act like he's all good and fun and chill and you're the only one complaining. Shaming someone in the reality corner on Discord, setting up everyone against me because he didn't care about something I had to say about something totally irrelevant to him and I wanted to advice him to not do such things if he were to get a promotion (he was trialist at the time) and yet here we are. Not to mention his posts have generally been of horrid quality, faffing around and shitposting except at very specific moments.

I am concerned this contest will result into his selection as a staff member so he can spread hate and people will cheer it on even more. I'm also concerned results will be measured through personal bias disguised as 'criticism', which during his time as a trialist, was overly harsh.
are all patches banned? all uberasm? are we okay to use custom blocks?

what will the sprite usage category be graded on, and why is it worth almost as many points as "fun"? In what case would someone "use the sprites" better than someone else and not have it count in the fun category?

I am worried that entries will be quite similar to each other. Many of the sets contain sprites that are a bit incompatible with standard platforming, but as gimmicks they also fall flat. I'll be participating nonetheless. good luck everyone!
Some answers to questions:

1. Changing the palette of a sprite falls under graphics, which is allowed within the rules.
2. Vanilla sprites are explicitly allowed in the rules.
3. Patches that don't affect the custom sprites are allowed (this has now been clarified in the rules).
4. You're not required to use all the sprites, but by not doing so you could be hurting yourself and sacrificing sprite usage points. If you can make up for the missing one(s) by using the rest even better, you can definitely still get full points.
5. Blocks are not allowed. This has also been clarified in the rules.
6. Sprite usage is such a big category because the whole point of the theme is to be able to use the sprites you're given in creative ways. If you haven't achieved that, you've pretty much missed the point (This should probably be called Sprite usage/Creativity).

Update: Note 6 has now been reflected in the rules.
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Originally posted by Latios
Nothing will happen if an issue like this gets PMd. Nothing will happen if like 90% of the members act like he's all good and fun and chill and you're the only one complaining.

How are you so sure nothing even happens? Maybe it's time for you to stop having a bloated view on things, Latios.

I can assure you that if you let the staff know about a specific user you think is problematic, then they will act on the spot. You think the staff doesn't do fucking anything to contribute to the site, but they have something called discussion. If you have an issue with a specific user, bring it up with them instead of tossing it publicly.
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Originally posted by GbreezeSunset
what will the sprite usage category be graded on, and why is it worth almost as many points as "fun"? In what case would someone "use the sprites" better than someone else and not have it count in the fun category?

I was considering having sprite usage more valued then fun but apperantly that was ignored so /shrug

Originally posted by GbreezeSunset
I am worried that entries will be quite similar to each other. Many of the sets contain sprites that are a bit incompatible with standard platforming, but as gimmicks they also fall flat. I'll be participating nonetheless. good luck everyone!
We originally considered only 1 sprite set so 5 should let there be enough variety. I hope.

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Also @Latios this is no place for personal problems but rather discussion about the contest.
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The rules should probably clarify that PIXI is required.

Originally posted by Sinc-X
Some answers to questions:

1. Changing the palette of a sprite falls under graphics, which is allowed within the rules.
2. Vanilla sprites are explicitly allowed in the rules.
3. Patches that don't affect the custom sprites are allowed (this has now been clarified in the rules).
4. You're not technically required to use all the sprites, but by not doing so you're sacrificing sprite usage points (we expect you to use all of them creatively for full points there).
5. Blocks are not allowed. This has also been clarified in the rules.
6. Sprite usage is such a big category because the whole point of the theme is to be able to use the sprites you're given in creative ways. If you haven't achieved that, you've pretty much missed the point (This should probably be called Sprite usage/Creativity).

Update: Note 6 has now been reflected in the rules.


Thank you for answering my questions. I was also wondering..

So what sort of patch modifies a sprite? A low gravity patch for example?

Originally posted by Tob
Originally posted by GbreezeSunset
what will the sprite usage category be graded on, and why is it worth almost as many points as "fun"? In what case would someone "use the sprites" better than someone else and not have it count in the fun category?

I was considering having sprite usage more valued then fun but apperantly that was ignored so /shrug

Originally posted by GbreezeSunset
I am worried that entries will be quite similar to each other. Many of the sets contain sprites that are a bit incompatible with standard platforming, but as gimmicks they also fall flat. I'll be participating nonetheless. good luck everyone!
We originally considered only 1 sprite set so 5 should let there be enough variety. I hope.

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Also @Latios this is no place for personal problems but rather discussion about the contest.


That seems.. sorta odd? But I guess it makes sense if we are basically calling sprite usage "creativity". I mean, is this a design contest, or a tech demo of the sprites, where we show off their intricacies? I would think it would be the former, so "fun" is obviously more important. It's a bit of semantics though, cause if you use sprites well, your level should also be pretty fun. I sorta question the need for this category at all.

Having 5 sprite sets is not gonna increase the variety much at all. People are still going to immediately figure out which sprites are fun to use together and which feel funky together. Of course, there will be plenty of variety in design itself.

I also really hope the "sprite usage" category isn't some arbitrary category that encourages people to use all 5 sprites, even when only using 1 or 2 is better.
Originally posted by Tob
Also @Latios this is no place for personal problems but rather discussion about the contest.


You aren't gonna boss me around, even with your undeserved rights.

Originally posted by Katerpie
How are you so sure nothing even happens? Maybe it's time for you to stop having a bloated view on things, Latios.

I can assure you that if you let the staff know about a specific user you think is problematic, then they will act on the spot. You think the staff doesn't do fucking anything to contribute to the site, but they have something called discussion. If you have an issue with a specific user, bring it up with them instead of tossing it publicly.


Fine. I may have overreacted now, perhaps I should've told this in PMs if my paranoia of not being taken seriously due to weak reputatuon hadn't shown up. As soon as he even comes close to make a shitpost against me though, you're not holding me back anymore.

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